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Julesy Jun 17 2008, 05:34 PM Post #41
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I think alot of younger voters are voting for Obama cause hes not an old fuck like McCain :shrug
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Rodney Jun 17 2008, 05:44 PM Post #42
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To bring it back to that little study they did in about gay-brains or whatever.

Those studies are utterlly pointless. gay men come in all shapes sizes and personalities. Also in levels of femininity. We all queen it up a notch just to have a laugh. Which can be very annoying if it goes on too long. I feel it's the crying clown syndrome. Be the silly queen to make you socially more acceptable. Like is said. it's fun for a while but a constant queen will get on my nerves. That is something very different for being effeminate. and I'm sure if they would have subjected effiminate straight guys to the same studies; the same results would come out.

What are they trying to say with this study anyway? To prove once again that homosexuality might have a biological cause, genetics? Whatever the case; in my book it's like this: Find the cause, then look for a cure.

BOLLOCKS to that. And just let me be fucking gay already.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Jun 17 2008, 05:44 PM Post #43
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How is Obama the status quo when he fought and won against the real status quo which was Clinton! He is a first term senator, half black, and has a back ground and roots that NONE of the past presidents going all the way back to the very first one, Washington, has!

Don't only vote for change, vote for history!

Vote Obama! :cheer

he is still a democrat. May not cow tow as much as Clinton to the neocons and the lobbyists, but he isnt going to be as much of a change as a libretarian, or Ron Paul would be.
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Rodney Jun 17 2008, 06:02 PM Post #44
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post it where it belongs already! :toot
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Auntie Maine Jun 17 2008, 09:55 PM Post #45
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Norway passes law approving gay marriage

Tue Jun 17, 12:14 PM ET

OSLO, Norway - Gay couples in Norway will be granted the same rights as heterosexuals to marry, adopt and undergo artificial insemination under a new equality law passed Tuesday.

Norway's upper house of parliament voted 23-17 in favor of the gender-neutral marriage law on the same day that gay couples were marrying in California.

The law replaces 1993 legislation that gave gays the right to enter civil unions similar to marriage but did not allow church weddings or adoption. It takes effect Jan. 1.

"We are so overjoyed. We have worked for this for so long," said Jon Reidar Oeyan, leader of the Norwegian National Association of Lesbian and Gay Liberation.

"Now we are going to celebrate," he said. "I didn't dare until I heard the chairman of the upper house bang the hammer."

A parliamentary majority had announced agreement on the legislation last month, and the lower house voted 84-41 in favor last week.

Opponents, including the Christian Democrats and the Party of Progress, argued that children need both a mother and a father in a traditional family; opposed assisted pregnancy for lesbians, and said the law was rushed through the legislature.

The law gives individual congregations and clergy the right but not the legal obligation to perform wedding ceremonies for gay couples.

About 85 percent of Norway's 4.7 million people are registered as members of the state Lutheran Church of Norway, although far fewer are active.

Since the church is split on gay marriage, the church is likely to allow each congregation to decide on whether to allow gay wedding ceremonies, as it did last year in allowing parishes to decide whether to accept clergymen living in gay partnerships.

In 1989, Denmark became the world's first country to allow civil unions for gays, similar to Norway's outgoing law. In 2001, the Netherlands became the first country to offer full marriage rights to gay couples.

:clap :clap :clap
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Noname Jun 18 2008, 04:45 AM Post #46
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First of all :cheer to Cali! An equal Amewrica here wee come!

Michele, the Constitution offers freedom to everyone. Why should some states have the right to deny you those rights... as Ron Paul would vote for it. This should be legalize by the whole country because that is what true freedom means. You have the right to be what you want.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Jun 18 2008, 02:13 PM Post #47
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First of all :cheer to Cali! An equal Amewrica here wee come!

Michele, the Constitution offers freedom to everyone. Why should some states have the right to deny you those rights... as Ron Paul would vote for it. This should be legalize by the whole country because that is what true freedom means. You have the right to be what you want.

darrelle that is what the constitution originally sets as the framework of the government. Smaller federal government and letting each state decide their laws brings more freedom to the peoples. That is actually exactly how the founding fathers set up our government. Not for the federal government to control everything.

If you dont like how your state runs things, you have more power to change it on the state level than on the federal level.
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Rodney Jun 18 2008, 03:57 PM Post #48
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It comes with it's pros and cons doesn't it? It's kinda like the EU. Difference is is that the "states"are not united and have no federal law.

When it comes to things like gay-marriage..stuff that WE view as basic human rights, you'd wish that it would be Federal Law,right? But then you have the flipside where people would say. If it becomes Federal Law; then the US isn't based on the idea of the Founding Fathers, anymore. We might as well have each state decide for themselves. but then you have the danger of people having to leave their own state and travel to another. Just because "their kind"of people aren't allowed to do something as basic as marrying in their own state!

So; should it become Federal Law to allow every human being of consenting age to just get married, already?

There are many people in the Netherlands who don't agree with gay-marriage. but, it's the law.

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Noname Jun 21 2008, 03:33 AM Post #49
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You put it, Rodney.

There I say that the founding fathers were wrong.
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Jane Jun 21 2008, 09:24 AM Post #50
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What are they trying to say with this study anyway? To prove once again that homosexuality might have a biological cause, genetics? Whatever the case; in my book it's like this: Find the cause, then look for a cure.


I agree, even if people doing such studies are doing so with good intentions it could then be used by the crazies for all sorts of scary things.
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Noname Jun 21 2008, 01:37 PM Post #51
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Some laws are too important to be left to the states. How mnay people go up to Canada to get married only to have their state say "no, we do not recongize your marriage". Why must you pick up and leave to another country/state just to be with the one you love?

Our law says everyone is equal and it's about damn time the United States take that into consideration.
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Rodney Jun 22 2008, 09:55 AM Post #52
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YEAH!
Abnd maybe your country needs a bit of old school in its government. Stuff like that should be Federal Law! Everybody should be able to get married! And if people donŽt like it, they can look the other way. YouŽll have places in the US where people are vehemently against gay people getting married, But at least it will be up to the gays to get married in their state and live there or not. With each state deciding for itself, that choice is taken away.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Jun 22 2008, 12:42 PM Post #53
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Some laws are too important to be left to the states. How mnay people go up to Canada to get married only to have their state say "no, we do not recongize your marriage". Why must you pick up and leave to another country/state just to be with the one you love?

Our law says everyone is equal and it's about damn time the United States take that into consideration.

well Darrelle with our big controlling federal government who gets married and who doesnt is still up to each individual state! Cali and Massachusetts have made it legal and the rest of the states are still saying no. So the federal government is not going to make it a national legality anyways.

better to have some states allowing it than the federal government saying no, gay marriage will not be legal anywhere in the US.
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Rodney Jun 22 2008, 06:41 PM Post #54
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How about a big rally to make them say "YES!"

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Auntie Maine Jun 22 2008, 06:47 PM Post #55
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I think it will happen here very soon.
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Rodney Jun 22 2008, 06:49 PM Post #56
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About fucking time! :rocks

That way I can marry an American and apply for a Greencard looking less suspicious than asking Michele to marry me. :ha
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:ha
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Noname Jun 23 2008, 01:29 AM Post #58
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People are always going to hate what they don't understand.
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