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Julesy Feb 16 2008, 03:16 AM Post #21
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teehee

I need to read up on more of this stuff

Jesse what do you really think of the ufo vids posted ?

I really think something is fishy with the Phx lights.
Seems like a surge in the southwest
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Denovissimus Feb 16 2008, 03:30 AM Post #22
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Don't know Jules. All I can say is that I am tired of the secrecy.

And as for this:

"J: What about same-sex marriages and relationships?

M: Leviticus 20:13 - If a man lie with mankind as he lies with womankind, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. MAGNUSS believes the dirtiest sin an ABO can commit is same-sex sex. "

These aliens can kiss my amber homo ass!

This whole story is either a well thought out hoax by the author, trying to integrate the emerging truthfulness of UFO's into some type of Christian agenda so that it still has a place when the Truth is known, or its alien tricks and lies as usual!
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Julesy Feb 16 2008, 03:41 AM Post #23
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ugh.
Now its starting to become a hoax (at least this guy)

Who gives a shit what you do in your own sexual life? As long as its with cuntsent and the partners are of legal age...WHO CARES?

You can fuck who ever you want.
man woman..they arent there. they dont know.

i could dress up as a fecking male clown and hump the shit outta my guy with a strap on dildo while whipping him with a spatula.
thats my business.


this guy Im on the verge of dicksmissing

lol also,does that make me gay for dressing up as a clown and humping my man?
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Denovissimus Feb 16 2008, 03:43 AM Post #24
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I must admit there are some interesting bits in the account though, some things I believe in too.

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:ha If we abduct ABO, we return ABO; if ABO goes looking for a "space brother", file a "Missing Persons Report". :ha
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Julesy Feb 16 2008, 03:45 AM Post #26
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yeah same here
but when they get too specific about religion and not on a general basis..
thats when it becomes a bit scary.
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I'm moving on to other areas of the site, reading about Project Serpo.
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Julesy Feb 16 2008, 03:52 AM Post #28
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I was just reading about the honey bee abduction.

funny how M. Night has it included in his movie.

alot of the produce we eat are a result of bees.

maybe the aliens are trying to make us exclude veggies..therefore becoming obese

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Interesting, this Project Serpo, I've never heard of it

http://www.serpo.org/

When 12 men and women from the military were taken in an exchange program to another planet by aliens and returned over ten years later.
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Damn I'm reading some very interesting shit on that Serpo site, about the initial briefing Ronald Regan was given back when he was president. The exchanges and remarks from him and his advisors sound very very believable. I am going to be up all night reading this shit.
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Are Arizona firefighters trained for UFO, alien contact?

PHOENIX - For centuries people have looked to the skies for answers. Is there life outside our solar system? Have UFO's visited our planet?

Because our sun is a star, does that mean the thousands of stars visible in the night sky could be someone else's sun? The questions, and the universe, are endless.

Events like the March 1997 mass-sighting of strange night lights above the Valley, popularly dubbed "Phoenix Lights", have generated questions and turned skeptics into believers.

A 600-page guide may lend credibility to UFO believers.

The Fire Officer's Guide To Disaster Control can apparently be found in firehouses across the United States.

It covers everything from fire and flood response to aviation disasters.

Chapter 13 of the book has an unusual twist. Titled "Enemy Attack And UFO Potential", it outlines what could happen in the event of a UFO crash.

The authors of the book, retired firefighters William M. Kramer and Charles W. Bahme write in part:

It would be remiss to not give some part to the role fire departments might play in the even of the unexpected arrival of UFO's in their communities...In a less optimistic scenario, you may have engine trouble upon approaching the scene, and radio contact could be lost with your dispatcher. If at night, your headlights could go out, the city could be blacked out, and your portable generators may malfunction when you attempt to use them for fans and portable lights.

ABC15 contacted several Valley fire agencies regarding the book and some even called us asking several questions prior to the story airing.

Not one fire department we found admitted to using the guide for training, although some did recognize the guide's existence.

"It just shows you that serious professional people are starting to take his whole subject of UFO's seriously," said Jim Mann, director of the Maricopa County chapter of The Mutual UFO Network.

For nearly ten years, Mann has investigated UFO sightings and encounters for MUFON in what he calls a fact finding mission.

"I don't think we're crack-pots, we're just people who want to be aware of what's going on, even if the reports turn out to be false," Mann said.

The authors of the guide could not be reached by ABC15 for comment regarding this story, but in a previous reports by other outlets, they said many people are missing the point regarding the chapter and a UFO does not just mean an alien spaceship.

Regardless, believers like Jim Mann view the guide as an opportunity for non-believers to at least take a closer look.

"UFO-ology could possibly be taken seriously now, we don't know where we came from and we don't know where we're going," he said.

Mann claims he has investigated dozens of UFO sightings in the Phoenix area, including those reported by members of the military and doctors.

"These are well respected people," Mann said. "We (MUFON) aren't trying to push our beliefs on anyone. Anything could happen and this is a matter that should be taken seriously."
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Confirmation & Update on Secret UFO Meeting at UN
by Michael Salla, Ph.D.
http://www.opednews.com

I recently circulated an article describing a secret meeting that allegedly occurred at the New York office of the United Nations discussing UFOs/extraterrestrial life. The confidential source for the meeting is presently working as a member of the diplomatic community who relayed this information to two New York based researchers, Shawn and Clay Pickering. I am pleased to announce that I have received independent confirmation that the alleged meeting did occur on the morning of February 12, 2008 as Clay’s and Shawn’s source claimed. I was also given information by an independent source, who I believe is very reliable, on what transpired at the meeting. It was claimed that a document had been circulated at the meeting, and was now being relayed to key ministries of many nations for further study and comments.

I have yet to witness the document which allegedly refers to an offer by extraterrestrials to help prepare humanity for the disclosure of extraterrestrial life. The meeting also apparently discussed how the UN was being encouraged to take a proactive stand on the release of secret technologies that will enable the development of free energy. The date 2013 was given as the time when extraterrestrials would unambiguously appear. This was consistent with the date given in my earlier article. I will share more information on the alleged document circulated at the UN meeting and the independent source confirming the meeting in my next communication on this unfolding UN initiative on UFOs/extraterrestrial life.

What follows next is a report of a further meeting between Clay and Shawn Pickering and their confidential source regarding the UN meeting on UFOs held on the morning of February 12, 2008. They pointed out that the “unambiguous showing up” of extraterrestrial life – sitting over major cities - would occur in 2017, rather than 2013 as described in the earlier article. The role of religion and population growth was also allegedly discussed, and appeared to raise many issues at the meeting, especially for India.

A significant descriptive term chosen by Clay’s and Shawn’s source for the extraterrestrials that would show up in 2017 was “The Controllers.” Such a term has clear psychological connotations and was chosen to have a particular effect on the target audience – both UN member states in attendance and the general public to which the information was being leaked. This is a clue that Clay’s/Shawn’s source is conveying information that has been designed to trigger a certain psychological reaction that influences how issues are framed and discussed.

Another aspect of the following report is that it was claimed that India would have a difficult time processing disclosure of extraterrestrial life, possibly leading to the elimination of Hinduism. This appears inconsistent with India’s long tradition of advanced technologies and extraterrestrial life in its Vedic texts, and multiplicity of gods. If, as the confidential source claims, that Roman Catholics will have an easier time with disclosure due to the belief of “three Gods in one”, so too might a religion like Hinduism which has a multiplicity of gods and is very eclectic.

I believe that the mention of India as a country that might experience disclosure problems is likely a fabrication intended to confuse disclosure related issues. When combined with the use of the descriptive term for extraterrestrials, “The Controllers” designed to trigger a particular psychological reaction and lead discussions in a certain direction, the possibility that the information is being relayed through an intelligence agency with considerable expertise in manipulating human psychology cannot be discounted. In the earlier message (February 13), Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source referred to an Admiral who was the ultimate authority for disclosure of the UN meeting to UFO/exopolitical community. Is this evidence that the Office of Naval Investigations is involved in the UFO disclosure initiative at the UN, or at least filtering information to be released to the UN/general public?

Most interesting for me was contrasting the agenda of the meeting revealed by Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source, and what I had been told by my independent source. My independent source focused on issues concerning the release of restricted technologies for new energy sources and a document for feedback, while Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source focused on population growth and religion. Curiously, Clay’s and Shawn’s source did not mention any document being circulated to UN member states for feedback.

In conclusion, I am now satisfied that a meeting took place at the UN headquarters in New York of February 12 to discuss the issue of UFOs and extraterrestrial. What transpired at the meeting itself appears to differ according to the confidential source Clay and Shawn have cited, and the independent source used to confirm the meeting. The emergence of the alleged document circulated at the meeting and relayed to key ministries of other nations will help considerably in clarifying what was discussed. The possible role of the Office of Naval Intelligence in filtering information that is being related through Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source is something that cannot be discounted when considering what was specifically discussed at the UN meeting. I look forward to reviewing any documents circulated at the meeting to get a better idea of the agenda issues discussed involving the role the UN would play in public disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

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----- Original Message ----

From: Shawn and Clay

To: drsalla@exopolitics.org

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:21:17 AM

Subject: Follow up of source's UFO meeting at the UN

Dear Michael,


This email is a follow up of the UN meeting which took place Tuesday 12, 2008 at 8;00AM.

We met our source 7:00PM, Monday, February 18, 2008. Our source stated the following:

1) The meeting went well; however, our source left with a degree of frustration.

2) The meeting covered various topics. The issue of recent UFO sightings was one of many topics discussed.

3) Security around the meeting was intense.

4) Everyone was searched. Pens, pins, key chain items were collected and not allowed in the meeting room. There were multiple security checkpoints. UN security cards were confiscated upon entering the room.

5) 50 to 60 people attended. Everyone was in civilian dress, except one Russian.

6) Other countries may have had military there, but they came under their respective civilian titles.

7) UFO topic was addressed. The Russians are very paranoid about the west. Putin is not very trusting. This frustrated our source greatly. Our source believes the Russians will eventually come around; "They always come back to the table." This mistrust appears to be an ongoing issue between East & West.

8) The religious implications of contact came up during the meeting. It turned into a 20 minute debate. Our source had to reel it in and refocus the meeting. It seems that the Indians are very difficult to deal with on this issue of the religious implications regarding contact. Population is a major factor in how nation-states deal with a new paradigm. The Indian's world view has led to an unsustainable food, energy and water demand. Source stated that the world must gets its population and resource use under control. ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don't show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help.

9) Source said the 2013 date of official contact is wrong. That is the date when things heat up. The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large craft will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. Source stated the "Independence Day" film was close, but their ships are not that big and, again, no use of force will occur. Our source cannot reveal his source for the 2017 date. His source is very high up in the government/military/intelligence structure.

10) Source stated that it is our choice how we embrace this contact.

11) The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as "The Controllers." They are a "galactic federation" type group; however, "galactic federation" is not the real name for their group--it is hypothetical name used as a reference.

12) The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene and help humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help. If some entropic event happens (nuclear war), the controllers will not make contact. "This is something they will not tolerate," our source stated.

13) The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth. They don't want our planet's population to double because of a technological innovation seeded by them. Our source used India as an example, " India has over 1 billion people. It is clearly a country out of balance in terms of its population size."

14) A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist. He stated," The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch. The dividing point is going to be the containment of population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will countries with indigenous religions connected to nature. The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time, possibly even the elimination of said religions; we can expect mass suicides, social unrest and upheaval. The ETs will help with re-programming and the concept of an inclusive galactic order. However, society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems The Chinese will have no problem because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences."

Clay and Shawn Pickering



source and references:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_...n__26_updat.htm


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Taman Feb 26 2008, 07:56 PM Post #33
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In conclusion, I am now satisfied that a meeting took place at the UN headquarters in New York of February 12 to discuss the issue of UFOs and extraterrestrial.



Bah. If the aliens want to come, they will come on their own terms. Not that they would.
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It is only apparant why any peaceful well intentioned aliens have not made their presence openly and publically known to the world.

Look at us, our prejudices, our hates, the bloody destructive wars we still wage on each other.

Why would any alien want to to get their feet mired in our shit?

To them, perhaps we are not yet deserving.

I say the people of this earth need a wake up call.

So come ring our bell damn it!
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I'll ring a taxi if they start preaching me anything

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11) The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as "The Controllers."


:ha More like the probers of the arse.


They can do nothing for us humans. We are a lost cause.
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Julesy Feb 26 2008, 10:13 PM Post #36
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The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth

I agree! dont do it you aliens!



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:ha

I dunno. Ill be 30 when they come.
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as far as the Phoenix Fire Dept. having a guidebook for UFO crashes. I dunno about that either.
Ill see if anyone at work knows someone who works for the fire dept and have them ask if it exists.

Aliens love them some Phoenix
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Jules a video I have not watched yet but I was just posting about it in the weird news thread.

The mysterious disappearence of Phobos II

http://www.disclose.tv/viewvideo/346/Missi...I_Mars_Orbiter/
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Bible has long said aliens here, but beware who you welcome
By JOHN HAVEMAN

It’s amazing how many people are finally finding out (and believing) phenomena the Bible stated over 5,000 years ago. A case in point is Michael Bishop’s guest column in the Missoulian on Feb. 3, “More Americans accepting idea of aliens visiting Earth.” The fact that outer-space visitors are making appearances on Earth is nothing new.

Zechariah, writing in 500 B.C., records that he looked up and saw a “flying scroll” with dimensions given as 30 feet by 20 feet, which line up with some of the accounts of the past 100 years. He then saw a UFO that resembled a big bushel basket with a lid on it, and then two women came out of it! They then flew this contraption over to “Shinar,” which is modern-day Iraq, formerly known as Babylon, and set it down on a base. This puts all of the interest in that area of the world into proper perspective.

This is not the first time visitors from outer space were recorded in the “old book.” In Genesis 6, prior to the universal flood, there was an appearance of the “sons of God.” These were fallen angels who rebelled along with Lucifer and were cast out of heaven. They caused great havoc, to say the least. Luke records in chapter 17:26, that “as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the son of man.” The context is the second coming of Jesus Christ. In other words, we can expect the events of Genesis 6 to be repeated, increasing in frequency, as that day draws near. Bishop’s documented studies prove what I just said.


Other sources confirm the connection between what man has “discovered” and that other “history book,” the Bible. Johannes Nohl, in his book, “The Black Death,” records the sightings of more than 25 UFOs in the 1500s: “Disruptions in the atmosphere, storms, unusual invasion of insects and celestial phenomena” were followed by some sort of plague that killed thousands of people. You might want to rethink your interest in “making friends” with the inhabitants of these vessels.

Bishop’s conclusions, along with help from Hollywood (“E.T.,” etc.) and the general media, are setting the world up to accept these aliens as just folks of another culture from whom we can learn something. In actuality, they are devils in humanoid form. They and their “leader” have had access to this earth for 6,000 years and are soon coming in “full color.” Anyone who says they are not satanic has swallowed the devil’s lie hook, line and sinker.

Daniel (7-11) tells us that when the Antichrist (the devil in human form) comes, he will be charming, charismatic and will bring a false peace by his policies as he sits down at peace tables. Other Scriptures go on to say that at some point the Antichrist will cause all to take his “number” and “mark.” My advice is, don’t do it!

The same book, that old archaic King James Bible, that told you all of the above, says your only hope is accepting another “man” who was God in human form, the Lord Jesus Christ, who came to “seek and save that which is lost.”

Trust him and you’ll be ready for a quick escape from planet Earth when all these things come to pass.

John Haveman is pastor of Open Door Baptist Church in Missoula.
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that phobos vid ..I couldnt really tell what it was.
all i know is watching videos like this while home alone scares me! :nails
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