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The US 2008 Presidential Race; Obama v McCain-Let's Get Ready to Rumble
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la anaconda de chocolatee Jan 3 2008, 11:35 PM Post #121
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:chuckle I still like calling Ron Paul,Pope Ron Paul or Ron Paul the second.

:ha
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I saw about ten Ron Paul signs on one block today!

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I have Ron Paul bumper stickers being sent out to me. I should get them any day now!

I have seen a few ron paul signs around as well.
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sorry i refuse to vote for Obana

thats just my opinion

carry on

You don't have a valid reason though, I defeated your last reason! He's not a fucking Muslim!
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Huckabee wins for the GOP side in Iowa, the Dem race is still too close between Obama, Clinton and Edwards.

Who the fuck wants a president with the last name of Huckabee?
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Julesy Jan 4 2008, 02:29 AM Post #125
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Julesy Jan 4 2008, 02:38 AM Post #127
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Obama is being projected as the winner of the Iowa caucuses! :clap
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Julesy Jan 4 2008, 02:40 AM Post #129
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when its definate

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jamming to my ipod :dance
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Its definite! :rocks

But this is just one small victory, there are more to go. New Hampshire is next I believe, in five days.
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Jam all you want, the world will continue.
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Obama and Huckabee win first 2008 vote

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent 29 minutes ago

DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Barack Obama took the first big step to winning the Democratic nomination on Thursday with a victory in Iowa, while underdog Mike Huckabee capped a stunning political rise to beat Republican rival Mitt Romney.
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Obama, an Illinois senator bidding to make U.S. history as the first black president, won the first Democratic test on the road to the White House with a comeback triumph over New York Sen. Hillary Clinton and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who were in a tight battle for second.

Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor and ordained Baptist minister, beat Romney fairly easily despite being dramatically outspent by the wealthy former Massachusetts governor and venture capitalist.

Both Obama and Huckabee once trailed their better-known rivals Clinton and Romney in their race to be on the November election ballot, but rode a wave of grass-roots enthusiasm to victories in the most hotly contested presidential campaign in Iowa history.

The 2008 campaign is the most open presidential race in more than 50 years, with no sitting president or vice president seeking their party's nomination.

For the winner in Iowa, the prize is valuable momentum and at least a temporary claim to the front-runner's slot in their battle to win the party's presidential nomination in the November election.

All eyes now turn to New Hampshire, which holds the next contest on Tuesday and where Romney and Clinton will face high-pressure bids to revive their candidacies.

The loss was a heavy blow to Clinton, the former first lady who a few months ago was considered in some quarters the almost certain Democratic nominee. She now faces immense pressure to turn around her campaign in New Hampshire over the next five days.

Edwards, who at one time led polls in Iowa and finished a strong second here during a failed 2004 presidential bid, also will face questions about the viability of his candidacy as he goes forward.

Obama's win effectively makes him the candidate to beat among Democrats, and a win next week in New Hampshire could put him in prime position to capture the nomination. The next big contest would be in South Carolina, where more than half of the voters in the Democratic primary are likely to be black.

IOWA KICKS OFF RACE

Iowa voters filled gathering spots in more than 1,700 precincts around the state to declare a presidential preference in Iowa's caucuses, which open the state-by-state battle to choose candidates in the November 4 election to succeed President George W. Bush.

In the Democratic caucuses, voters debated their options and cajoled their neighbors to switch to their candidate. Republicans conducted essentially a preference poll, casting votes soon after the caucus begins.

For Republicans, Huckabee's upset reshaped a race where no candidate has been able to claim front-runner status.

Iowa, where a sizable bloc of religious conservatives had fueled Huckabee's rapid rise, represented perhaps the best chance for the former Arkansas governor to break through with a win.

He will face tougher going in New Hampshire, where there are fewer evangelicals, and he has lingered well behind Romney and Arizona Sen. John McCain in polls.

Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts who has faced questions about his Mormon faith during the campaign, launched aggressive advertising campaigns against Huckabee and McCain in recent weeks.

Iowa's opening contest in the nominating battle has traditionally served to winnow the presidential field of laggards and elevate some surprise contenders.

Record turnout was reported by the Democrats, who said more than 210,000 turned out to surpass the 124,000 Iowans who participated in 2004. Republicans could challenge their record of 87,000 caucus participants in 2000.



I am fucking pissed that Huckabee won. He is a fucking prick. So glad hillary did not win Iowa though :disco all I can say on that is HAHA!!!
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Down with that corporate cunt!
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Iowa results lead Dodd and Biden to quit race

Veteran Democratic senators finish toward back of pack in caucuses
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DES MOINES, Iowa - Two Democratic senators from the Northeast — Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut and Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware — became the first casualties of the Iowa caucuses on Thursday night. After both failed to get a single percentage point, they issued statements saying they would drop out of the race.

Mr. Dodd had moved his wife and children to Des Moines to try to eke out at least a fourth-place finish, but finished a distant sixth.

“I count the past year as one of the most rewarding in a career of public service,” Mr. Dodd said in a statement Thursday night thanking his supporters. “Unfortunately I am withdrawing from the campaign today.”
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Mr. Biden did slightly better than Mr. Dodd, but came in fifth.

The candidacy of Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico seemed imperiled as well; he came in fourth with only 2 percent of the delegate count.

Every four years, underdogs and underfinanced candidates hope the Iowa caucuses will catapult them from obscurity to the White House, the way they elevated Jimmy Carter in 1976. But the Iowa caucuses have knocked down far more candidates than they have lifted up, and the rules of the Democratic caucuses make it harder for long shots. Candidates who fail to get 15 percent of the delegate count at a precinct are deemed not viable there, and their supporters are invited to throw their support behind other candidates.

In the end, after all the greasy food at the Iowa State Fair, the bus tours through miles and miles of cornfields, the paeans to ethanol, the coffees and town-hall-style meetings, most of the candidates were left with little to show.

On the Republican side, the caucus hurt Mitt Romney, who was the front-runner until about a month ago but who finished second, and Rudolph W. Giuliani, who did not fully compete in Iowa but who appeared to be headed for an even lower-than-expected finish in sixth place, behind Representative Ron Paul of Texas, with three-quarters of the precincts reporting. And Duncan Hunter, a congressman from California, hardly registered at all.

Even before any votes were cast, Fred D. Thompson, the actor and former Tennessee senator, spent much of the day trying to tamp down rumors that he might be leaving the race. An article on Politico.com, a political Web site, reported that “several Republican officials close” to his campaign were predicting that Mr. Thompson would drop out of the race within days if he failed to place at least third.

Todd Harris, Mr. Thompson’s communications director, said Thursday, “We have absolutely no plan to do anything other than keep fighting for conservative reform, and keeping this campaign moving forward.”

With three-quarters of the precincts reporting, Mr. Thompson, who decided to concentrate on Iowa in an effort to gain enough momentum to carry him to the contests in the Southern states were he was seen as strongest, appeared to be virtually tied for third place with Senator John McCain of Arizona, who had all but written off the state.

Given Mr. Giuliani’s predictably poor showing, it was not too surprising that he spent the caucus night in Florida. And while he never fully engaged in an Iowa campaign — he was, after all, the first major candidate to announce that he would skip the Ames straw poll there last summer and he never broadcast any television advertisements there — he did compete.
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why would Guiliani not even make any type of effort in Iowa when that is the first state to hold the primaries? Makes no sense, but I hope his lack of enthusiasm for the state hurts him in the primaries or NH and SC.
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my lovah says that this caucus means nothing in the long run
seeing as we dont vote for a long ass time from now
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These early voting caucuses are important when you have the amount of people involved in running, they give a measure to how well a candidate is going to run and it gives the opportunity for campaigns to fine tune their strengths and weakness, and in the case of Biden and Dodd, to get rid of the competition early on so that you can focus on your real competition.
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I just saw this video of the democratic debate which focuses on Kucinich's answers. I never heard of this guy till a week ago and after seeing this video, I am in love :lovah he has me hooked. Either him or Ron Paul, one of them needs to be our president. Edwards even seems to really like him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzgbnjuBGN8
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You do realize you can only vote for one candidate right? :chuckle
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