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| The US 2008 Presidential Race; Obama v McCain-Let's Get Ready to Rumble | |
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| Julesy | Dec 20 2007, 02:45 AM Post #81 |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 20 2007, 02:51 AM Post #82 |
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well I wasnt digging the hair but I thought he had a nice looking face |
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| Julesy | Dec 20 2007, 02:55 AM Post #83 |
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my man has fugly hair. thats why he shaves it. I dig his face. its all good |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 20 2007, 02:55 AM Post #84 |
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you dig whose face? your man's or ron paul's son? |
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| Julesy | Dec 20 2007, 02:56 AM Post #85 |
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lol my guys. his hair is a beast. untame-able lol. his eyes mostly. he sorta has a big nose. lol |
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| Denovissimus | Dec 20 2007, 02:14 PM Post #86 |
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AGAIN!! Kerrey apologizes to Obama over remark Ex-Senator lauds Illinois senator's qualifications to be president DES MOINES, Iowa - Former Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey has apologized to Barack Obama for any unintentional insult he committed by raising the Democratic presidential candidate's Muslim heritage while endorsing rival candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. Kerrey sent a letter to Obama on Wednesday, lauding the Illinois senator's qualifications to be president and saying that he never meant to harm his candidacy. Kerrey told The Associated Press in a telephone interview that he sent the letter on his own and had not spoken to Clinton or her campaign about the comments he made Sunday in Iowa. "What I found myself getting into in Iowa - and it was my own fault - it was the wrong moment to do it and it was insulting," Kerrey told the AP. "I meant no disrespect at all." Obama spokesman Bill Burton said the senator accepted Kerrey's apology, sent to the campaign in the mail and via e-mail. While announcing his support for Clinton on Sunday, Kerrey told The Washington Post in an interview that while he hopes Clinton is the nominee, he would like Obama to have a role - especially because of his ability to reach out to black youth and Muslims around the world. "It's probably not something that appeals to him, but I like the fact that his name is Barack Hussein Obama, and that his father was a Muslim and that his paternal grandmother is a Muslim," said Kerrey, a former governor and the current president of the New School in New York City. "There's a billion people on the planet that are Muslims, and I think that experience is a big deal." Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States. Obama is a Christian. The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama. Kerrey told Obama in the letter that was not his intent. "I answered a question about your qualifications to be president in a way that has been interpreted as a backhanded insult of you. I assure you I meant to do just the opposite," Kerrey wrote. He went on to say he considers Obama one of the most talented people he's met in politics and "exceptionally qualified by experience and judgment to be president of the United States." He expanded on Obama's potential to bring peace to the world and his capacity to inspire hope - high praise for someone backing Obama's top rival. |
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| Denovissimus | Dec 20 2007, 02:16 PM Post #87 |
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I DO believe this is something that Clinton supporters are doing WITH Clinton's knowledge and consent, so long as she can deny and play innocent! The whole point is to put the ideas out there in the public, even if false. Dirty fucking bitch. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 20 2007, 03:10 PM Post #88 |
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I agree jesse, it keeps happening so Hillary is behind it. If she wasnt, it wouldnt have happened any more past the one time and she would fire them. Also, since when does a person's religion (even though he isnt even muslim, but even if he was) not make you qualified to be president? How fucking ignorant is that! Basically they are saying a muslim person is not qualified to be president but a chrisitian is. I think they are saying that ONLY christians are qualified. Dont the politicians of this country not understand the constitution anymore and know that this is a country with laws built on SECULARISM. This is not a christian country and if I hear one more fucking time how our forefathers are christians and they built this as a christian nation, one nation under god. I am going to fucking murder the next person who says it. The one nation under god crap didnt come about till the 1950's. And I have some really good quotes from the founding fathers, particularly Thomas Jefferson, that explicitly states that this is not a christian nation, but a secular nation, that seperation of church and state must be strictly upheld, and a lot of these quotes pretty much even shows that most of them werent even christians. At best they were deists, though I believe that Thomas Jefferson wasnt even a deist, from many of his quotes he appears to be either an agnostic or an atheist. |
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| Denovissimus | Dec 20 2007, 03:23 PM Post #89 |
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They were Masons! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 20 2007, 03:28 PM Post #90 |
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yeah you have to believe in a god to be a mason, but anyone can lie about that. Plus deists believe there is a god, they just believe that god created us and the universe and that is it, god does not interfer in the goings on of humans, it doesnt care what humans do or dont do, it doesnt judge humans, or forgive their sins, or listen to prayers. |
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| Denovissimus | Dec 20 2007, 03:33 PM Post #91 |
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The Mason elite pretend to be Christians but in secret they are more like you describe |
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| Noname | Dec 20 2007, 05:58 PM Post #92 |
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Hillary is betraying me. I thought she would make a great canidate. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 22 2007, 04:09 AM Post #93 |
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you thought WRONG!!! Hillary is a lobbiest whore. She is a cunt |
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| Noname | Dec 22 2007, 06:47 PM Post #94 |
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Why don't you pour salt on my wound, Michele, I see that now. It would have been nice to see Hillary as the new president but sadly that is not to come true. I think Edwards is up for the challenge. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 22 2007, 11:15 PM Post #95 |
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I like Edwards better than Hillary but it is highly doubtful he is going to win the demo primaries. Did you hear about his love child scandal? I hope it is not true, but if it is.... that is probably the end of him! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 24 2007, 07:26 PM Post #96 |
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How Clinton Lost Her Invincibility By JAY NEWTON-SMALL/GRUNDY CENTER 2 hours, 56 minutes ago When Hillary Clinton launched her campaign nearly a year ago, the media buzz deemed it near impossible for the likes of Barack Obama and John Edwards to overcome her daunting campaign machine. The endorsements, the money, and the cream-of-the-crop strategists combined with the former First Lady's incumbent image to make her the clear-cut choice of the Democratic Party establishment. ADVERTISEMENT But the onset of the Iowa caucuses finds Clinton aides racing to lower expectations, bracing for a possible loss there and contemplating a dwindling lead in the polls in New Hampshire and South Carolina. So, what has stripped the mighty Clinton campaign juggernaut of its image of invincibility? For one thing, it has been a victim of the media hype it helped create. The campaign's warnings that Iowa was going to be a tough state for Clinton fell mostly on deaf ears. "Iowa was always going to be a challenge and we consistently said that," says Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson. "Nobody hands anyone a presidential nomination." But her campaign also failed to invest in Iowa until it was nearly too late. While Obama and Edwards spent the better part of the year moving in hundreds of staff and building relationships with grassroots Democratic constituencies, Clinton in the last month belatedly added a hundred staffers. And while the Clinton campaign hired the best and brightest faces to run its Iowa shop, there's only so much that can be done without the resources or the candidate. A month away from the caucuses, Clinton had spent 52 days in state, visiting just 38 counties compared with the 99 visited by Edwards and the 68 by Obama. Since then, her campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle has moved out to Iowa to personally oversee the operation here, while Clinton has spent an additional 11 of the last 14 days in the state, adding another 14 county visits. "She has never really been ahead here in Iowa," says Arthur B. Sanders, a politics professor at Drake University in Des Moines and author of Losing Control: Presidential Elections and the Decline of Democracy. "Her national lead made it easy to assume she would win here as well, especially since her national campaign gave off an image of her 'inevitable' victory. And a national press that had not spent time here, did not really understand how different the situation was here." Clinton has also shaken up her message in recent weeks, trying on different hats: angry Hilary; warm-and-fuzzy mommy Hillary; commander-in-chief Hillary; insurgent change-candidate Hillary. "It's a very close race in Iowa, and quite naturally, the Clinton campaign has decided to throw in everything it's got, plus the kitchen sink," says Larry Sabato, head of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics. "She's both the candidate of change and the candidate of experience, the candidate with a hard side and a soft side, and the candidate of the establishment past and the progressive future. Maybe voters are getting confused, or maybe she's patching together just enough voters to win or tie. We'll all find out together on January 3rd." In the last week, Clinton straddled both the past and future. She's paraded an impressive stream of former Clinton administration officials - including former U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, former Veteran Affairs Secretaries Togo West and Hershel Gober, former NATO Supreme Commander General Wesley Clark and, of course, her husband, President Bill Clinton - through Iowa while declaring herself an agent of change. "Somebody said at one of my events a little while ago, 'You know it looks like it take a Clinton to clean up after a Bush,' and I'm ready for the job if that's what it takes," Clinton said at a town hall event in Johnston, Iowa last week. In harkening to the 1990s, Clinton risks alienating voters who want change. The majority of likely Democratic caucus-goers, 56%, believe change is more important than experience, according a December 19 ABC News/Washington Post poll of likely caucus-goers. Of those, half said they support Obama and 23% are committed to Edwards. Clinton only garnered 15% of the change vote. Conversely, 33% of those polled said they preferred experience over change, and Clinton lead amongst those voters 49% to Edwards' 15% and Obama's 8%. Wolfson argues that it takes experience to bring about change: "Hillary brings a lifetime record of accomplishments to this campaign - and yes, some of them were during the '90s. We think voters are asking - at a time when every candidate is talking about change - who actually has a record of accomplishing it their entire adult life?" Next week, Clinton will roll out her final pitch to Iowan voters, a tour entitled 'Time to Pick a President' in which she's expected to underline her experience in the White House and promise to restore the nation's good times. "Her closing argument is that America faces huge challenges and has enormous opportunities, and that the nation needs a president with the strength and experience to lead on day one and make the changes we need," Wolfson says. The jury's still out on whether the Democratic base in Iowa will buy the idea of insider experience as an effective force for change. But not for long. |
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| Denovissimus | Dec 24 2007, 10:31 PM Post #97 |
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She's a dyke! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 25 2007, 01:45 AM Post #98 |
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| Noname | Dec 26 2007, 05:25 PM Post #99 |
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She is not! She just likes her some pootang pie. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Dec 26 2007, 09:19 PM Post #100 |
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Hillary likes black dick! She is trying to get into Obama's pants!
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