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The US 2008 Presidential Race; Obama v McCain-Let's Get Ready to Rumble
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la anaconda de chocolatee Jun 7 2008, 06:28 PM Post #721
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she aint getting the VP so hush your mouth!
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saying she is supporting Barack all the way tells me that, She and Obama struck a nice deal during his surprise visit in the early hours of thursday
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she would back him regarless cause she is a democrat and so is he so the loser has to back the nominee from their party, that is the way it is here even if they hate each other. Just like all the republicans say they back McCain, even the ones that fucking hate his guts. They still would back him cause he is from the same party, rather than back the democratic canidate.
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Whatever it takes for the Dems to win in November!

Put the bitch on the ticket! They would be unstoppable! :rocks
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Edwards or someone else is his better bet!
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Jesse got it!
They would be unstoppable! Edwards is vulnerable. And remember Michele,Hillary's 18 million voters are "swingers". if the Rep's have an opportunity to sway a couple of them to vote Republican, that's the one! Unless Hillary urges them to vote Obama. Keep in kind that most of Clinton's voters are blue collar workers and older women.In a rcent poll it was revealed that, a lot of them would'nt back a black dude. Hillary needs them to change their minds and she can do it. Obviously, she would want something in return. And if she gets it. She'll do a competent job.
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Watch this Michele!
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la anaconda de chocolatee Jun 7 2008, 08:44 PM Post #728
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Jesse got it!
They would be unstoppable! Edwards is vulnerable. And remember Michele,Hillary's 18 million voters are "swingers". if the Rep's have an opportunity to sway a couple of them to vote Republican, that's the one! Unless Hillary urges them to vote Obama. Keep in kind that most of Clinton's voters are blue collar workers and older women.In a rcent poll it was revealed that, a lot of them would'nt back a black dude. Hillary needs them to change their minds and she can do it. Obviously, she would want something in return. And if she gets it. She'll do a competent job.

like I said, no matter what the democratic loser candidates always support the winner nominee, even if they cant stand that person and was totally brutal, ruthless and cut throat against them during the primary race. If Edwards was the winning nominee, Hillary would still throw her support his way cause he is the democrat, regardless if the winning nominee chooses her for the VP or not. A dem would never say they support the republican and vice versa, NO MATTER WHAT. I guess that would be such a major betrayl to the party and it would be like a lynch mob to do that.

So even if she doesnt get the VP spot, she would still have to throw her support to Obama, cause if not she would probably be ostracized from the democratic party!

See Ron Paul refuses to give his support to McCain though, and that is because Ron Paul is a TRUE republican and McCain and Bush and all the other neocons are so far from what the republican party is really all about, they have totally twisted the meaning of being a republican to their own NWO agendas, so Ron Paul cannot in dignity and being the honest man that he is who always says what he means and means what he says and never sways from the constitution or what it truely means to be a republican, what it used to mean anyways, back McCain. If he was a neocon he surely would even if he absolutely despises the man. But Ron Paul is not going to back Obama either, nor would he have Hillary, cause they are from the other party. So he is not going to support or endorse either I imagine.
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But did you watch the vid!!!! :clap
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like I said, no matter what the democratic loser candidates always support the winner nominee


My GOD! I'm here on the other side of the atlantic and actually see clear evidence that this simply not true!

Remember what happened when Gore was Democratic candidate and later, when Kerry was Democratic candidate? The SAME thing happened that is trhreatening to happen again!. T

hey lost out on Bush because their fellow Democratic candidates did not go out of their way to urge THEIR voters to support either Gore(8yrs.ago) or Kerry(4yrs.ago).These vital voters weren't the staunchly democratic ones. They were your typical women/bluecollar voters who sway between Republican/Democrat depending on how lovely a capaign is. They are the mob-controlled ones and the most important if the race goes down to the wire.

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I guess that would be such a major betrayl to the party and it would be like a lynch mob to do that.


Honey, they have done it before!You're(and the majority of voters')mob-controlled goggles just did'nt see the plain obvious. that's why you raised your hands in the air in astonishment when Bush got re-elected.DUH! The world sees it? How come you don't?Was America sleeping during the past 8 years?

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See Ron Paul refuses to give his support to McCain though, and that is because Ron Paul is a TRUE republican and McCain and Bush and all the other neocons are so far from what the republican party is really all about, they have totally twisted the meaning of being a republican to their own NWO agendas, so Ron Paul cannot in dignity and being the honest man that he is who always says what he means and means what he says and never sways from the constitution or what it truely means to be a republican,


Okay. So , I had to scour the net to read about Ron Paul. And after reading a couple of articles and manifesto's I can say: He is a true Republican.
Problem is: America is too mob-controlled to realize that, America is NO REPUBLIC. IT STOPPED BEING A REPUBLIC AGES AGO! if you read back on your own country's history don't you see that obvious and unavoidable fact, Michele? OPEN YOUR EYES: Ron Paul is a fucking dinosaur. "true Republican"voters are a dying breed!"
And McCain's camp could'nt give two shits wether they are supported by Paul or not. he's got PLENTY of other backers.These new republicans have always stood united. They're like an old boy's club. Bush had one, McCain has one too.

Democrats don't have that. What with all the infighting.
This time; the Democrats have a Golden opportunity.And that is for Hillary not just SAYING she supports Barack but, actually doing it. Ofcourse whe would want something in return. andd you KNOW she would do a good job as nr.2 TheyHillary and Obama) would make a great team. In Obama fashion, you would let bygones be bygones. That means taking off your mob-controlled goggles.
And Edwards? two words for ya: Easy target.

Think strategically, okay?
McCain is candidate,right?. he has done all the mud-slinging he can do to Hillary during the prelims. As far as he's concerned she was out. Untill she very craftily waited to concede. During those days, he turns around and says: "She's so great, I admire her courage and well done to her blah blah." He does that IN PUBLIC! He does thati n order for Hillary to butt out and leave the 18 million voters to be fought over by McCain and Obama fair and square. He made a BIG error there. And left a Golden opportunity for Obama AND for Hillary.
Because:In Politics there IS NO FAIR AND SQUARE!

Because of McCain praising Hillary up into heaven,PUBLICLY; he cannot back-track his words anymore. he has to focus his daggers on Obama.
So what?-you might say.
Well any would be-poltical strategist would tell you:
Hillary can be very usefull to Obama's campaign

Does she say:"Voters: get a Democrat in the Whitehouse"and then sit down and hope for the best or, is she going to sa˙: "Voters: get a Democrat in the White House"and then go all out to ensure that HER voters don't sway and stick with Obama.
Because they DO sway, Michele. Do you watch the news? Do you read the articles about the Demographics of her voters?; They are the most fickle bunch of turntails! And they have always been the key. Democrats will always vote Democrat. Republicans will always vote Republican. swayers? Now , does are the american idiots you have to campaign for, appear on tv and kiss babies. They respond to that. theyarethe mob and Hillary has got a whole bunch of them in her bag. If it comes to a near tie, they are the ones Obama needs.
McCain would not be able to stop Hillary to do her best in keeping the swayers voting Democrat.

With Hillary, Obama can start decorating the White House already.

It has happened in the past. Thing was: It was Bush who re-upholstered his own coutches for a second term. thanks to Democrats'penchant for division.

Learn from your mistakes Democrats!

Just my two cents. i might be talking out of my arse here
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like I said, no matter what the democratic loser candidates always support the winner nominee


My GOD! I'm here on the other side of the atlantic and actually see clear evidence that this simply not true!

Remember what happened when Gore was Democratic candidate and later, when Kerry was Democratic candidate? The SAME thing happened that is trhreatening to happen again!. T

hey lost out on Bush because their fellow Democratic candidates did not go out of their way to urge THEIR voters to support either Gore(8yrs.ago) or Kerry(4yrs.ago).These vital voters weren't the staunchly democratic ones. They were your typical women/bluecollar voters who sway between Republican/Democrat depending on how lovely a capaign is. They are the mob-controlled ones and the most important if the race goes down to the wire.

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I guess that would be such a major betrayl to the party and it would be like a lynch mob to do that.


Honey, they have done it before!You're(and the majority of voters')mob-controlled goggles just did'nt see the plain obvious. that's why you raised your hands in the air in astonishment when Bush got re-elected.DUH! The world sees it? How come you don't?Was America sleeping during the past 8 years?

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See Ron Paul refuses to give his support to McCain though, and that is because Ron Paul is a TRUE republican and McCain and Bush and all the other neocons are so far from what the republican party is really all about, they have totally twisted the meaning of being a republican to their own NWO agendas, so Ron Paul cannot in dignity and being the honest man that he is who always says what he means and means what he says and never sways from the constitution or what it truely means to be a republican,


Okay. So , I had to scour the net to read about Ron Paul. And after reading a couple of articles and manifesto's I can say: He is a true Republican.
Problem is: America is too mob-controlled to realize that, America is NO REPUBLIC. IT STOPPED BEING A REPUBLIC AGES AGO! if you read back on your own country's history don't you see that obvious and unavoidable fact, Michele? OPEN YOUR EYES: Ron Paul is a fucking dinosaur. "true Republican"voters are a dying breed!"
And McCain's camp could'nt give two shits wether they are supported by Paul or not. he's got PLENTY of other backers.These new republicans have always stood united. They're like an old boy's club. Bush had one, McCain has one too.

Democrats don't have that. What with all the infighting.
This time; the Democrats have a Golden opportunity.And that is for Hillary not just SAYING she supports Barack but, actually doing it. Ofcourse whe would want something in return. andd you KNOW she would do a good job as nr.2 TheyHillary and Obama) would make a great team. In Obama fashion, you would let bygones be bygones. That means taking off your mob-controlled goggles.
And Edwards? two words for ya: Easy target.

Think strategically, okay?
McCain is candidate,right?. he has done all the mud-slinging he can do to Hillary during the prelims. As far as he's concerned she was out. Untill she very craftily waited to concede. During those days, he turns around and says: "She's so great, I admire her courage and well done to her blah blah." He does that IN PUBLIC! He does thati n order for Hillary to butt out and leave the 18 million voters to be fought over by McCain and Obama fair and square. He made a BIG error there. And left a Golden opportunity for Obama AND for Hillary.
Because:In Politics there IS NO FAIR AND SQUARE!

Because of McCain praising Hillary up into heaven,PUBLICLY; he cannot back-track his words anymore. he has to focus his daggers on Obama.
So what?-you might say.
Well any would be-poltical strategist would tell you:
Hillary can be very usefull to Obama's campaign

Does she say:"Voters: get a Democrat in the Whitehouse"and then sit down and hope for the best or, is she going to sa˙: "Voters: get a Democrat in the White House"and then go all out to ensure that HER voters don't sway and stick with Obama.
Because they DO sway, Michele. Do you watch the news? Do you read the articles about the Demographics of her voters?; They are the most fickle bunch of turntails! And they have always been the key. Democrats will always vote Democrat. Republicans will always vote Republican. swayers? Now , does are the american idiots you have to campaign for, appear on tv and kiss babies. They respond to that. theyarethe mob and Hillary has got a whole bunch of them in her bag. If it comes to a near tie, they are the ones Obama needs.
McCain would not be able to stop Hillary to do her best in keeping the swayers voting Democrat.

With Hillary, Obama can start decorating the White House already.

It has happened in the past. Thing was: It was Bush who re-upholstered his own coutches for a second term. thanks to Democrats'penchant for division.

Learn from your mistakes Democrats!

Just my two cents. i might be talking out of my arse here

you are still totally missing what I am saying!!!! The democratic candidates always support the one who won the nomination and same with the republicans! Al Gore and Kerry were supported by whomever it was they beat in the primary race (I dont recall)

and both lost the presidential election because Bush's crew rigged the votes in Florida in 2000 and in Ohio in 2004
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Honey, they have done it before!You're(and the majority of voters')mob-controlled goggles just did'nt see the plain obvious. that's why you raised your hands in the air in astonishment when Bush got re-elected.DUH! The world sees it? How come you don't?Was America sleeping during the past 8 years?

I was not surprised he won in 04 cause I knew he rigged the 00 election and it was painfully obvious that the same thing was gonna happen in Ohio weeks before the election, and it did, again.
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Okay. So , I had to scour the net to read about Ron Paul. And after reading a couple of articles and manifesto's I can say: He is a true Republican.
Problem is: America is too mob-controlled to realize that, America is NO REPUBLIC. IT STOPPED BEING A REPUBLIC AGES AGO! if you read back on your own country's history don't you see that obvious and unavoidable fact, Michele? OPEN YOUR EYES: Ron Paul is a fucking dinosaur. "true Republican"voters are a dying breed!"
And McCain's camp could'nt give two shits wether they are supported by Paul or not. he's got PLENTY of other backers.These new republicans have always stood united. They're like an old boy's club. Bush had one, McCain has one too.

of course I know this! He is trying to bring the republican party back to what it was and what it is still supposed to be, and he is opening up the public's mind to it. His revolution is really catching on, causing much the stir among the people. The neocons are still trying to shut him out of the media as much as possible, and they have succeeded to some extent, but not as well as they wanted to. Ron Paul is still punching through and he will continue to do so for as long as it takes. By the next presidential election, if Obama wins this election, you can best bet that Ron Paul will be the republican candidate in 2012 unless he is assasinated by the neocons before then.
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Honey :;

The votes weren't rigged.

They mob-control you to THINK that is what happened. What do you think would happen if America found out that, they voted an idiot in the White House, through falling for mob-control-again? America would would implode.Their sense of self, of being an American would take a tumble.
Americans are above all, a proud nation. They woud hate to think, they can be fooled by mob-control

. So the trusted American media drums up a story about rigged votes and re-counts. Just to make you "justifiably angry" about that injustice. yet, you're president has been sworn in, yet again, and you do nothing about it. Americans would rather believe in a lie about a lie than admid that, the outcome of an election falls on lower class-rednecks with a tendency to sway between the parties. i would almost think you have been mob-controlled as well.

Throw away them goggles and see the light Michelle. Ron Paul would be proud of you. :;
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you are still totally missing what I am saying!!!! The democratic candidates always support the one who won the nomination and same with the republicans! Al Gore and Kerry were supported by whomever it was they beat in the primary race (I dont recall)


I'm not. seriously! I know what you're saying!
But you CANNOT remember them. Doesn't that tell you enough? The beaten candidates during the respective primaries announced their support. But, they did'nt fight ,they way the republican prelim-candidates fought for Bush. Those republicans really stood together. the Democrats never did and THAT is what lost them the swayers to Bush. Not rigging!
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no, they were definately rigged. TOTALLY RIGGED. Seriously dude, no question, rigged. Especially Florida in 2000. Bush's brother was the governor of Florida at that time. And I knew a few peeps who lived in the counties in florida where the voting machines were questionable and she said she honestly wasnt sure if she had actually voted for Gore, which was her intention and that the voting machines were not like that in previous elections.


And another point is that a lot of voters dont like McCain. So there are plenty of "republicans" who could vote for Obama over him.


I personally cannot WAIT till the republican convention and see the storm of the Ron Paul Revolution bearing down on the convention! If I lived in the midwest I would TOTALLY participate in his revolution at the convention.
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Honey  :;

The votes weren't rigged.

They mob-control you to THINK that is what happened. What do you think would happen if America found out that, they voted an idiot in the White House, through falling for mob-control-again? America would would implode.Their sense of self, of being an American would take a tumble.
Americans are above all, a proud nation. They woud hate to think, they can be fooled by mob-control

. So the trusted American media drums up a story about rigged votes and re-counts. Just to make you "justifiably angry" about that injustice. yet, you're president has been sworn in, yet again, and you do nothing about it. Americans would rather believe in a lie about a lie than admid that, the outcome of an election falls on lower class-rednecks with a tendency to sway between the parties. i would almost think you have been mob-controlled as well.

Throw away them goggles and see the light Michelle. Ron Paul would be proud of you. :;

most americans would never believe it, even when the evidence is right in their face cause they dont want to believe that. They dont, cause most americans are moronic and would rather believe the best of our government instead of knowing the worst. Just like 9/11.

Even though the evidence overwhelmingly points to it being an inside job, that it was done so that Bush would have an excuse to go into the middle east and invade first Iraq then other countries, the vast majority of people not only refuse to believe the evidence, but refuse to even CONSIDER the evidence. Instead they would rather live in the stupid delusion that a jet plane flown by amater hyjackers who took over the plane with box cutters could totally collaspe two 110 story buildings in a 10 second free fall
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you are still totally missing what I am saying!!!! The democratic candidates always support the one who won the nomination and same with the republicans! Al Gore and Kerry were supported by whomever it was they beat in the primary race (I dont recall)


I'm not. seriously! I know what you're saying!
But you CANNOT remember them. Doesn't that tell you enough? The beaten candidates during the respective primaries announced their support. But, they did'nt fight ,they way the republican prelim-candidates fought for Bush. Those republicans really stood together. the Democrats never did and THAT is what lost them the swayers to Bush. Not rigging!

McCain so did not rally behind Bush when he lost to him in 2000, he fucking hated Bush's guts back then. The McCain of 2000 is not the same McCain as today. Back in 2000 if he had won the primary and if the dems had a different candidate than my beloved Al Gore, I may have considered voting for him. Now 8 years later, no way in hell I would ever vote for McCain. I would not vote at all before voting for him
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There was this thingy on CNN that, the biggest worry about Hillary's voters is that, because of their make-up(blue collar workers from rural areas,older women) are the kind of voters that won't show up to cast their vote. They're staunchly anti-Obama and definately no Republicans. it was also said that, McCain has the ability to reach out to those people and get some of them to cast a vote against Obama. This guy at Larry King said something about Hillary really having to get involved if she wants her voters to actually show up.

What do you think about that speculation?
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Buckle up peeps. The cunt is not done yet. Her eyes are firmly set on VP

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