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The US 2008 Presidential Race; Obama v McCain-Let's Get Ready to Rumble
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Denovissimus Jun 4 2008, 10:34 PM Post #661
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Michele if you waste your vote I will never speak or acknowledge you in the Garden EVAH!
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well you dont have to worry cause Hillary is not the nominee, Obama is so therefore I will vote for him. Unless Ron Paul miraculously takes over the convention and ends up taking the nomination from McCain.
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Rodney Jun 5 2008, 01:08 AM Post #663
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Darrelle do you not learn american history in your school? Do you know how our government was established? Do you even know what the constitution is?


Do you read the news and read in-depth material from outside your comfort zone?
Read what the International press has to say! You'd be amazed.

In Holland we HAVE to learn stuff in school about america-(I don't know the same goes for the US,btw? I once had an american ask me where I was from and he asked if I spoke German. A former Forum member once asked me if Greece and Italy were seperate countries LMAO) and th election race is followed with great interest by millions of Europeans.

The difference between Americans and Europeans is that, we view the thing from a distance and obviously with a great sense of detachment(It's not our country after all). And without that whole emotive bullcrap(we call it bull crap, in the US it is the way of campaigning), I can only come to the conclusion that your country needs a president that inspires. A president that can make you believe in the "American Dream" again. For this; Obama is your guy.

What worries me is his expertise on foreign politics. But, that should'nt be a reason why he should NOT be president. The US needs him. What he needs is a strong experienced team behind him. Competent Cunty Hillary should be part of that team.
Ofcourse that means that she will probably join the team with her eyes set on taking over from Obama when his term is over. It's dog eat dog in politics after all. But seeing the state your country is in, it might not be that bad of a scenario if you really think about it. And getting all angry and emotional about it is not going to help.

Like I said before; that kind of thinking got an idiot in the White House. The same way of thinking, luckily, puts Obama with a shot at presidency. And if he nails it, you lot will get a sense of self-worth as a nation again and a believe in the American voters and change will be made possible. And stop shooting yourself in the foot by probably losing out on a great politician like Hillary. Just because we think she's a cunt. But as long as the cunt can do a damn good job for to get Barack where he needs to be, why stand in her way? It will weaken your elected candidate Obama and your whole "Change"-wish goes down the drain. America needs Hillary's votes to push Obama to the top. It's as clear as day

Obama for president, Hillary on the team. It's your best shot from where I stand. What you don't have to do, is liking her. What you HAVE to do is get rid of your emotional blindfold when it comes to Hillary and let her help Obama to do a good job.


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la anaconda de chocolatee Jun 5 2008, 01:37 AM Post #664
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We can agree to disagree Rodney. I dont think she is a good politician, I dont think she would bring much of a change from the neocons, and the majority of her voters being democrat would most likely vote for the democrat who got the nomination, if she did not, regardless.

And Bush won the last two elections because he rigged the votes in Florida in 2000 and then rigged the votes in Ohio in 2004
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Derblutsaguer Jun 5 2008, 03:28 AM Post #665
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Why doesn't everyone Vote Cthulhu!

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Rodney Jun 5 2008, 09:56 AM Post #666
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LMAO!!!
Lesser evil! Loves it!


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We can agree to disagree Rodney


We could but, I won't. I love me a good discussion that goes on and on and on and on.... :;

Because I know I'm right and you are wrong :chuckle
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Rodney Jun 5 2008, 11:12 AM Post #667
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So under Ron Paul, many states probably would legalize gay marriage. Then again, many may make abortion illegal but you can always go out of state for an abortion if you have to I guess


OMG!!! I completely read over that bit.
Hmmmm not much about bringing untity to a nation after all when it comes to important issues like that, then.

He wants states to decide for themselves about legalizing gay marriage and abortion. That's a load of bollocks. On issues like that, the United states AND every other country in the world should take a stand and seperate whatever religious objection from the State and make it law. For the whole nation.

Nobody should have to leave their state to do what is THEIR right as a human being.That would only create a divide your country. and division makes a nation weak. After reading your post about this Ron Paul person and googled him, I was like...hmmm a bit of a damp squib but, not an entirely unlikable candidate. But his stance on the whole gay/abortion-thing.....abhorrent
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I love that Chris! :clap

Oh, and Rodney, Americans don't give a rats ass that Bill Clinton got his crooked cock sucked by a pig wearing lipstick. That was just the media and his political opponents who made the big issue out of it.
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Like it would be a sad state of affairs if that would be the case. But read back and realise that, i totally agree with that. it was just that a certain forumite decided to bring THAT up when they insinuated that Bill Clinton "leaves a mass of destruction where ever he goes"

BULLSHIT
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Alondria! :ha

But she clarified herself I think, meaning the campaign trial for his bulldyke wife.
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So under Ron Paul, many states probably would legalize gay marriage. Then again, many may make abortion illegal but you can always go out of state for an abortion if you have to I guess


OMG!!! I completely read over that bit.
Hmmmm not much about bringing untity to a nation after all when it comes to important issues like that, then.

He wants states to decide for themselves about legalizing gay marriage and abortion. That's a load of bollocks. On issues like that, the United states AND every other country in the world should take a stand and seperate whatever religious objection from the State and make it law. For the whole nation.

Nobody should have to leave their state to do what is THEIR right as a human being.That would only create a divide your country. and division makes a nation weak. After reading your post about this Ron Paul person and googled him, I was like...hmmm a bit of a damp squib but, not an entirely unlikable candidate. But his stance on the whole gay/abortion-thing.....abhorrent

no that is the principle of the founding fathers of this country Rodney, that is exactly what they had set up to be. All about a very limited federal government. Our federal government is supposed to be very small and very limited, it should have little to no intereference in our lives. When it does, that is when corruption then mass control happens. If the federal government has very little power, mass control and a new world order CANNOT take place, it wouldnt be possible.


Rodney it is actually no different than in Europe when each country had their own laws and ran their own affairs. Now they are all centralizing under one government. The European Union. The EU is going to be an axis of evil. Their main objective is the New World Order of total control and surveillance. And you guys are letting it happen. Tis a shame
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:priest

A North American union is in the works!
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so is a south american union, and an asian union!
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Denovissimus Jun 5 2008, 01:50 PM Post #674
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and probabaly an african union!
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la anaconda de chocolatee Jun 5 2008, 01:54 PM Post #675
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yes that too! I forgot to mention that!

And the euros were the ones who started it all, shame on the euros!
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Denovissimus Jun 5 2008, 01:58 PM Post #676
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White devils!

:chuckle
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Darrelle do you not learn american history in your school? Do you know how our government was established? Do you even know what the constitution is?


Do you read the news and read in-depth material from outside your comfort zone?
Read what the International press has to say! You'd be amazed.

In Holland we HAVE to learn stuff in school about america-(I don't know the same goes for the US,btw? I once had an american ask me where I was from and he asked if I spoke German. A former Forum member once asked me if Greece and Italy were seperate countries LMAO) and th election race is followed with great interest by millions of Europeans.

The difference between Americans and Europeans is that, we view the thing from a distance and obviously with a great sense of detachment(It's not our country after all). And without that whole emotive bullcrap(we call it bull crap, in the US it is the way of campaigning), I can only come to the conclusion that your country needs a president that inspires. A president that can make you believe in the "American Dream" again. For this; Obama is your guy.

What worries me is his expertise on foreign politics. But, that should'nt be a reason why he should NOT be president. The US needs him. What he needs is a strong experienced team behind him. Competent Cunty Hillary should be part of that team.
Ofcourse that means that she will probably join the team with her eyes set on taking over from Obama when his term is over. It's dog eat dog in politics after all. But seeing the state your country is in, it might not be that bad of a scenario if you really think about it. And getting all angry and emotional about it is not going to help.

Like I said before; that kind of thinking got an idiot in the White House. The same way of thinking, luckily, puts Obama with a shot at presidency. And if he nails it, you lot will get a sense of self-worth as a nation again and a believe in the American voters and change will be made possible. And stop shooting yourself in the foot by probably losing out on a great politician like Hillary. Just because we think she's a cunt. But as long as the cunt can do a damn good job for to get Barack where he needs to be, why stand in her way? It will weaken your elected candidate Obama and your whole "Change"-wish goes down the drain. America needs Hillary's votes to push Obama to the top. It's as clear as day

Obama for president, Hillary on the team. It's your best shot from where I stand. What you don't have to do, is liking her. What you HAVE to do is get rid of your emotional blindfold when it comes to Hillary and let her help Obama to do a good job.

Give it to her Rodney!
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Denovissimus Jun 5 2008, 06:04 PM Post #678
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Primary Quiz! :clap

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7430209.stm

How much were YOU paying attention?
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3 out of 10, guess I wasn't paying attention enough! lol
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When I follow your elections, I always get so frustrated by the "khazams" of the candidates. It's more about the fireworks and dazzle than actually discussing important issues. I bet if you play their yadda yaddahs backwards you get "Kill Jesus, rape your mother, destroy leprecon". :alien
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