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The US 2008 Presidential Race; Obama v McCain-Let's Get Ready to Rumble
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Noname Dec 13 2007, 05:50 PM Post #41
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I know, Michele! Who the fuck cares if he was "born again" justice should be paid!
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Clinton adviser: Obama's drug past a liability
National co-chair says Republicans will look for more dirt, then backtracks

updated 11:28 p.m. CT, Wed., Dec. 12, 2007
CONCORD, N.H. - A top adviser to Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign said Wednesday that Democrats should give more thought to Sen. Barack Obama’s admissions of illegal drug use before they pick a presidential candidate.

Obama’s campaign said the Clinton people were getting desperate. Clinton’s campaign tried to distance itself from the remarks, and the adviser said later he regretted making them.

Bill Shaheen, a national co-chairman of Clinton’s front-runner campaign, raised the issue during an interview with The Washington Post, posted on washingtonpost.com.

‘Openings for Republican dirty tricks’
Shaheen, an attorney and veteran organizer, said much of Obama’s background is unknown and could be a problem in November 2008 if he is the Democratic nominee. He said Republicans would work hard to discover new aspects of Obama’s admittedly spotty youth.

“It’ll be, ‘When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?”’ said Shaheen, whose wife, Jeanne, is the state’s former governor and is running for the U.S. Senate next year.

“There are so many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It’s hard to overcome,” Shaheen said.

Clinton’s campaign said it had nothing to do with his comments, and Shaheen said later he regretted them.

“I deeply regret the comments I made today and they were not authorized by the campaign in any way,” Bill Shaheen said in an e-mail released by the campaign.

Obama camp strikes back
A campaign spokeswoman, Kathleen Strand, earlier had said “Senator Clinton is out every day talking about the issues that matter to the American people. These comments were not authorized or condoned by the campaign in any way.”

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said in response to Shaheen’s remarks:

“Hillary Clinton said attacking other Democrats is the fun part of this campaign, and now she’s moved from Barack Obama’s kindergarten years to his teenage years in an increasingly desperate effort to slow her slide in the polls. Senator Clinton’s campaign is recycling old news that Barack Obama has been candid about in a book he wrote years ago, and he’s talked about the lessons he’s learned from these mistakes with young people all across the country. He plans on winning this campaign by focusing on the issues that actually matter to the American people.”

Obama wrote about his teenage drug use in his memoir, “Dreams from My Father.” His rivals have largely remained silent on the subject.

“Junkie. Pothead. That’s where I’d been headed: the final fatal role of the young would-be black man,” Obama wrote. Mostly he smoked marijuana and drank alcohol, he wrote, but occasionally he would snort cocaine when he could afford it.

Speaking to Manchester high school students earlier this month, Obama said he was hardly a model student and had experimented with drugs and alcohol.

“You know, I made some bad decisions that I’ve actually written about. You know, got into drinking. I experimented with drugs,” he said. “There was a whole stretch of time that I didn’t really apply myself a lot. It wasn’t until I got out of high school and went to college that I started realizing, ‘Man, I wasted a lot of time.”’

Clinton’s campaign has distributed its first flier that criticizes Obama’s health care plan for leaving 15 million people without insurance. TV ads following the same theme also have been prepared.

“This is not the time to go back to the same old politics of, ’now I’m going to smack you over the head with a baseball bat and call into question your character,”’ Obama co-chairman Ned Helms told reporters in a conference call earlier Wednesday, decrying what he said was Clinton’s negative campaign.

In Iowa, Democratic presidential rival John Edwards said of the comments: “I reject it. I reject it, and I want nothing to do with that kind of politics.”

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It's well known that our last two presidents were boozers and dabbled in drugs in their past!
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Bush was a crack addict!
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He probably still is!
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Noname Dec 13 2007, 11:17 PM Post #46
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His kids are future alcoholics(sp?)
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Those hoes party big time I'm sure

Ever see Bush's half hispanic nephew? I'd do him.
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Noname Dec 13 2007, 11:28 PM Post #48
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No. Where the hell did he come from? Post Jesse I say, post!!
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Denovissimus Dec 13 2007, 11:34 PM Post #49
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I forget. I want to say Jeb but I'm not too sure. Gotta do a search for him one day
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Noname Dec 13 2007, 11:44 PM Post #50
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I wonder if Jebb would have made a better president than Bush.
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Nope
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Julesy Dec 14 2007, 12:18 AM Post #52
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all Bush folk are tainted.

I wouldnt soil myself to even fuck one. They can go fuck themselves


Some New Mexican govenor is Mexican or Hispanic w/e and is running for president.

Yeah, I read about that heroin story.
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That's Bill Richardson
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Julesy Dec 14 2007, 12:23 AM Post #54
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yeah. that guy.

I need to look into him. even if I said I wasnt goin to vote.
wonder if a Mexican has a worse chance to be president than a black guy. :shrug

btw what kihda Mexican has a last name RICHARDSON? Ibet hes a halfy
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It's well known that our last two presidents were boozers and dabbled in drugs in their past!

Hillary is becoming a desperate hoe! I dont vote for desperate people!
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yeah. that guy.

I need to look into him. even if I said I wasnt goin to vote.
wonder if a Mexican has a worse chance to be president than a black guy. :shrug

btw what kihda Mexican has a last name RICHARDSON? Ibet hes a halfy

I would say yes because so many americans are resentful of the spanglicing of america.

"to continue in english, press 1. To continue in spanish, press 2" I have come across a lot of people who are very resentful about all the hispanics and everything also being in spanish. I say fuck you pansys! We are not the natives of this land! We forced the natives to give up their languages and speak english!
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on sunday 12/16 which was the anniversary of the boston tea party, Ron Paul broke the single day fundraising record previously held by John Kerry :yay


Message from Ron (12/17/07)

What a day! I am humbled and inspired, grateful and thrilled for this vast outpouring of support.

On just one day, in honor of the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, the new American revolutionaries brought in $6.04 million, another one-day record. The average donation was $102; we had 58,407 individual contributors, of whom an astounding 24,915 were first-time donors. And it was an entirely voluntary, self-organized, decentralized, independent effort on the internet. Must be the "spammers" I keep hearing about!

The establishment is baffled and worried, and well they should be. They keep asking me who runs our internet fundraising and controls our volunteers. To these top-down central planners, a spontaneous order like our movement is science-fiction. But you and I know it's real: as real as the American people's yearning for freedom, peace, and prosperity, as real as all the men and women who have sacrificed for our ideals, in the past and today.

And how neat to see celebrations all across the world, with Tea Parties from France to New Zealand. This is how we can spread the ideals of our country, through voluntary emulation, not bombs and bribes. Of course, there were hundreds in America.

As I dropped in on a cheering, laughing crowd of about 600 near my home in Freeport, Texas, I noted that they call us "angry." Well, we are the happiest, most optimistic "angry" movement ever, and the most diverse. What unites us is a love of liberty, and a determination to fix what is wrong with our country, from the Fed to the IRS, from warfare to welfare. But otherwise we are a big tent.

Said the local newspaper: "The elderly sat with teens barely old enough to vote. The faces were black, Hispanic, Asian and white. There was no fear in their voices as they spoke boldly with each other about the way the country should be. Held close like a deeply held secret, Paul has brought them out of the disconnect they feel between what they know to be true and where the country has been led."

Thanks also to the 500 or so who braved the blizzard in Boston to go to Faneuil Hall. My son Rand told me what a great time he had with you.

A few mornings ago on LewRockwell.com, I saw a YouTube of a 14-year-old boy that summed up our whole movement for me. This well-spoken young man, who could have passed in knowledge for a college graduate, told how he heard our ideas being denounced. So he decided to Google. He read some of my speeches, and thought, these make sense. Then he studied US foreign policy of recent years, and came to the conclusion that we are right. So he persuaded his father to drop Rudy Giuliani and join our movement.

All over America, all over the world, we are inspiring real change. With the wars and the spying, the spending and the taxing, the inflation and the credit crisis, our ideas have never been more needed. Please help me spread them https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate in all 50 states. Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less.

Sincerely,

Ron
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Good for him! :clap
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I hope he has McCain, Guiliani, Romney and Huckabee shaking in their boots!
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I'll vote for him if he goes up against Hillary.
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