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| The US 2008 Presidential Race; Obama v McCain-Let's Get Ready to Rumble | |
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| Julesy | Apr 23 2008, 02:34 PM Post #561 |
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why does McCains face look so dough-y? on another note......lmao! http://coverawards.com/2008/04/23/barack-o...ional-enquirer/ |
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| Denovissimus | Apr 23 2008, 02:39 PM Post #562 |
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I hope Obama sues! |
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| Julesy | Apr 23 2008, 02:41 PM Post #563 |
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that would be funny if it was true though. gotta admit. alas, its from the Enquirer. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Apr 24 2008, 08:55 PM Post #564 |
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Jenna Bush not yet on board with McCain Thu Apr 24, 11:57 AM ET WASHINGTON - First daughter Jenna Bush isn't as committed to Republican candidate John McCain as her parents are, who are firmly behind the party's expected presidential nominee. ADVERTISEMENT Jenna Bush told CNN's Larry King that she is open to learning about all the candidates — including the Democrats. King asked Jenna Bush and her mother, Laura Bush, who appeared with her, whether they had a favorite between Democratic candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. "My favorite is the Republican," said Laura Bush. Her daughter wasn't as sure. "I don't know," Jenna Bush said. "I mean, who isn't open to learning about the candidates? But, I mean, and I'm sure everybody is like that. But I really — I honestly have been too busy with books to really pay that much attention." The Bushes appeared on King's talk show to promote their new book, "Read All About It." Once bitter primary rivals themselves, President Bush supports McCain's bid to succeed him. Separately, the first lady said she doesn't like the way the Democratic candidates talk about her husband. "He takes a huge pounding from the other candidates, not all of them, not my candidate, John McCain, but I think that is — that's demoralizing to me," Laura Bush said Laura honey, you are married to the worst president in history! The world's biggest asshole! A mass murderer! Get a fucking clue! Or if you do realize and still stay, what does that make you? No better than him bitch! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Apr 26 2008, 08:11 PM Post #565 |
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Over 128,000 in Pennsylvania Vote for Freedom (4/23/08) Ron Paul received over 128,000 votes, or 16 percent, in the closed Republican Pennsylvania primary yesterday. Dr. Paul made four stops in the Keystone State during the month of April and spoke to overflow crowds of young people and other passionate supporters. “Americans are hungry for leadership that will protect the traditions that made our country so great,” said campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. “Dr. Paul’s grassroots supporters in Pennsylvania and across the country are doing a tremendous job spreading our message, winning votes, and laying a strong foundation for the future.” Dr. Paul is continuing his bid for the Republican nomination to spread the message of constitutional government and personal freedom, return the GOP to its traditional roots, and continue the grassroots activism his candidacy inspired. To date, he has received nearly one million votes in Republican presidential contests and his campaign believes it will carry 50 delegates or more to the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis. His new book, “The Revolution: A Manifesto,” launches April 30th.
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| Noname | Apr 26 2008, 09:27 PM Post #566 |
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you act like he is going to win! Hillary took PA!! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Apr 27 2008, 12:01 AM Post #567 |
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first of all you numbnut, he is republican so it is McCain he is competing against, not Hillary. And secondly, I know this but I am so proud of this man for staying in the race to spread his message, and I am so proud that he did so well in PA, despite the fact that McCain already cinched the nomination. |
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| Denovissimus | Apr 29 2008, 04:42 PM Post #568 |
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Constitution Party Selects Baldwin for President, Targets New World Order Added: Apr 29th, 2008 8:08 AM J. Michael Bennett, Ph.D (“Doctor Future”) Host, “Future Quake” Radio Show 29 April, 2008 RaidersNewsNetwork.com I have just returned from Kansas City, Missouri, having covered the U.S. Constitution Party National Convention held this past weekend, which convened to nominate its presidential and vice presidential candidates for the 2008 general election. The Constitution Party (www.constitutionparty.com) is the third largest national political party in the United States (after the Democratic and Republican parties), with almost 400,000 registered voters nationwide. It began its life as the U.S. Taxpayers Party, led by its founder Howard Phillips, who served as its presidential nominee in 1992, 1996 and 2000. Its current political platform, which has largely existed for some time but was updated and approved at the Convention, includes the following major capsulized positions, as a paraphrased sampling: (1) no exceptions for legalized abortion, and no federal funding of abortion, nor for bio-research using human embryonic or pre-embryonic cells, (2) return of powers and realms of authority from the federal government to state and local governments, to comply with Constitutional requirements, (3) abolition of Congressional pensions, and repealing of all laws that delegate legislative powers to regulatory agencies, bureaucracies, private organizations, the Federal Reserve Board, international agencies, the President, and the judiciary, (4) oppose imposition of the draft, the registration law, compulsory military training or any other form of compulsory government service, (5) an end to the raiding by the federal government of the Social Security, Railroad Retirement and Medicare funds, (6) no presidential authority to deploy American troops into combat without a declaration of war by Congress, and no commission of U.S. forces to serve under any foreign flag or command, being opposed to any New World Order, (7) all federal legislation related to education should be repealed, with education, training, and discipline of children properly placed in the domain of their parents, (8) an end to electronic or mechanical voting processes and a return to the manual counting process, (9) under no circumstances may the federal government take private property, (10) opposition to the use of Presidential executive orders that make law or otherwise usurp the Constitutional authority and responsibilities of the legislative and judicial branches, and (11) oppose American participation in any form of world government organization, including any world court under United Nations auspices, and call upon the President, and Congress, to terminate United States membership in the United Nations. Further platform positions are (12) immediately terminating American military presence in all foreign countries where such U.S. presence constitutes an invitation for this nation to become involved in, or further participate in, foreign wars, and no further funds be appropriated for any kind of foreign aid program or participation in international lending institutions, such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, (13) upholding the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms, and oppose attempts to prohibit ownership of guns by law-abiding citizens, and stand against all laws which would require the registration of guns or ammunition, (14) affirming the integrity of the international borders of the United States and the Constitutional authority and duty of the federal government to guard and to protect those borders, including the regulation of the numbers and of the qualifications of immigrants into the country, (15) repeal of the Federal Reserve Act, and prohibit fractional reserve banking, (16) the Fourth Amendment right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, including arbitrary or de facto registration, general and unwarranted electronic surveillance, national computer databases, and national identification cards, (17) recognition that the Constitution grants no authority to the federal government either to grant or deny the religious expressions of the people in any place, (18) acknowledgment that each state's membership in the Union is voluntary, (19) support of a tariff-based revenue system, as did the Founding Fathers, which was the policy of the United States during most of the nation's history, and propose legislation to abolish the unconstitutional Internal Revenue Service, supplemented by an apportioned "state-rate tax" in which the responsibility for covering the cost of unmet obligations will be divided among the several states in accordance with their proportion of the total population of the United States (as needed), and (20) opposition to the National Security Act and the USA PATRIOT Act (these positions are explained and justified in greater detail at their party website). The biggest news of the convention was the recent arrival of former ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes to the party, as a potential member and Presidential nominee, although it is not certain that he has indeed officially joined the party to date, having publicly announced his departure from the Republican Party approximately one week prior to the convention. He was joined by a large number of very visible and vocal supporters, who intended to assist in the adoption of Dr. Keyes (www.alankeyes.com) as the party nominee. His most popular and familiar rival for the candidacy was pastor, columnist and radio show host Dr. Chuck Baldwin (www.chuckbaldwinlive.com), who served as the 2004 Constitution Party vice presidential candidate (and is also featured as a “Raiders News Network” columnist). A total of six additional Presidential candidates that met filing and nomination criteria, of various backgrounds and credentials, were also available for selection by delegates on site, and all candidates were given opportunities to make candidacy speeches and answer selected questions as time permitted. I was able to privately conduct a 30 minute interview with Dr. Keyes, which will be broadcast on my radio show “Future Quake” Tuesday evening. In the discussion, he clarified his position that the United States must aggressively fight the War on Terror overseas, and stay engaged in international diplomacy and other efforts as a player on the world stage. He acknowledged that this position could be interpreted by some as being contrary to platform principles of the Constitution Party which discourage foreign wars and entanglements, and that the decision of the convention delegates in determining if they could concede to this pragmatic reality (as he perceives it) would likely be a determining factor in whether he might find a “home” in the party. This dilemma was brought to a head in the convention speech by the party's founder, Howard Phillips, who bluntly suggested that they now had a “candidate for our party, who until about a week ago was a Republican, and who is a 'Neo-Con'”, and that “we need to choose whether we will be the 'Neo-Con Party' or 'Constitution Party'”. He continued to list the positions of this “candidate” that he said aligned with “Neo-Con” principles, as opposed to the platform principles he associated with the Constitution Party. He clearly announced his support, alternatively, for the candidacy of Dr. Baldwin. After this speech, Party Chairman Jim Clymer expressed his concern for the hostile tone of the speech, and offered his admonition not to “denigrate” in speech those with whom we disagree, and for the convention participants to “take the high road”, and the convention activities resumed without further incident. After drawing for the order of speaking by the candidates, Dr. Chuck Baldwin spoke graciously of his rival Dr. Keyes, and extolled his colleague's virtues, while eloquently and passionately defending the platform, and the crisis in American policy and world standing which required its remedies. Dr. Keyes, in like manner (while given extra speaking time to compensate for the critical words by Mr. Phillips), spoke eloquently concerning the state of politics and American society, focusing on the loss of spiritual and moral compass of the citizenry by the departure in the nation's discourse of the acknowledgment that our civil rights and privileges originate from the Creator. He also made it clear that some existing party platform positions might be idealistic yet naïve, as illustrated by the Constitutional requirement for our government to honor existing treaties, rather than simply dissolving them. The other candidates spoke from a range of perspectives and emphases, including one candidate who discussed uncomfortable “questions”, such as determining the true perpetrators of the World Trade Center tragedy, and the dangers present in vaccines and genetically-modified foods. After a brief period of questions posed to the individual candidates, the delegate voting process began, with reporting by each state delegation. Many state delegations split their voting blocs proportionally between Dr. Baldwin and Dr. Keyes, with California providing a large portion of Dr. Keye's votes, and with a few votes for the “favorite sons” by the state delegations that were home to the other candidates. In the final tally, Dr. Baldwin prevailed over Dr. Keyes by an approximate 3:1 ratio (283 votes to 125), with a subsequent unanimous “affirming” vote for Dr. Baldwin by the delegates, in accordance with Convention rules. Subsequent voting for the Vice Presidential nominee led to the selection of attorney Darrell Castle from the Tennessee delegation, after being nominated for consideration by Dr. Baldwin himself. Both gentlemen gave acceptance speeches, and Dr. Baldwin acknowledged (in addition to further praise for Dr. Keyes) that, although he and most of the party participants were “people of faith”, and indeed the party platform reflected this relationship, he welcomed fellow citizens of various expressions of faith to join in the fight to restore Constitutional principles to government, and the restoration of individual rights and pursuit of self-determination, in an environment of mutual respect and collective objectives. He also minced no words by stating that when Baldwin administration takes office, “the New World Order is coming down!”. Dr. Keyes also released a subsequent audio statement on his website, expressing caution and concern for the party participants and their actions and positions (comparing his experiences to that of an “abortion”), and doubts about his support of the party's activities, and his own political career as well, in the future. Other notable speeches were given, such as by Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue, who stated that the Republican Party had betrayed their commitment to eliminate abortion on demand, both by neglect, and by appointing Supreme Court judges with nebulous commitments to life. He included other guilty parties in compromising the commitment to life, including many of America's pastors, politicians and even pro-life leaders, who has sold out to compromise and lack of commitment. He also expressed hope and reported much success in the elimination of the number of abortion procedures, after new and novel techniques were adopted to close abortion shops and jail abortion providers that had been convicted of maiming or killing their patients, or not complying with other regulations, which has resulted in the closure of two thirds of the abortion facilities in recent years, and the estimated savings of seven million lives from death by abortion. Larry Pratt, President of Gun Owners of America reported on recent activities by federal, state and local governments to deny citizens their Second Amendment rights to bear arms, the unintended impact on crime in the U.S. and overseas when guns have been confiscated from lawful citizens, and techniques his organization and others are using to head off these affronts to individual liberty. John McManus, President of the John Birch Society, spoke on the undermining of compliance with the Constitution due to actions by both the political Left and Right, and Dr. Jerome Corsi, author of the “Late, Great USA”, updated the audience on the latest efforts by unelected and unaccountable officials in creating a supra-national “North American Union”. The platform of this party, and the direct and piercing oratory by Dr. Baldwin, reflect a growing distrust by the citizenry of an expanding Federal government, unchecked by existing, unenforced Constitutional limits, which expand debt and financial distress, meddle in societal and market forces, and now intrude into the privacy and daily conduct of citizens under the guise of “protection” from ill-defined “terrorist” threats, and form supra-national agreements and alliances without the participation by elected officials, nor approval by the citizenry. Dr. Baldwin himself reflects the growing disdain and distrust of government aims, and even dissatisfaction with traditional conservative bodies such as the Republican Party, which are perceived as having left these principles such as limited government, maximum freedom and minimal foreign entanglements, and exploited their conservative base without acknowledgment or consideration. Dr. Baldwin directs much of his criticism at the Religious Right and evangelicals, whom he accuses of “looking the other way” when the Republican officials they support pursue actions that are neither conservative or Biblical, and compels them to regain their moral authority by taking another course. If this movement is to gain traction and have an impact in Presidential and national and local politics, it must broaden its support throughout the traditional religious and conservative communities; it currently has an unprecedented opportunity with a present ideological split within the Democratic Party (as represented by their two remaining candidates), and the disfranchisement of Republican conservatives by the choice of the centrist John McCain, who has a consistent record of betraying conservative principles. It is perceived that this challenge of widespread growth is largely due to a lack of exposure of the Constitutional Party platform and principles to these groups, a message which should resonate with these disillusioned parties, if they follow others and depart from their prior support of foreign pre-emptive wars and international policing. This inability to “spread the word” is largely due to the lack of considerable funds currently available to third party groups like the Constitution Party, since their commitment “not to be bought” by corporate interests over individual rights and principles impedes their ability to raise large quantities of funds from special interest groups, and requires creative measures to take their message to the people. This fact further emphasizes their need to appeal to the emerging Ron Paul movement and typical supporter (which should be possible since Dr. Baldwin has been a strong and vocal supporter of Dr. Paul, and their party's platform and Dr. Paul's positions appear co-incident), whom have shown their zeal and commitment, ability to “make waves” and raise money in novel ways, and operate “below the radar screen” of media acknowledgment through massive grass-roots, imaginative volunteer efforts, and a refusal to be discouraged by the lack of “establishment” endorsement. In fact, it may do the party well to altogether avoid the traditional media, even as the movement grows, in order to “control the message”, rather than letting the establishment media cannibalize the message and lampoon the movement (which tempered the growth of the Paul movement as they focused on the Paul “phenomena”), and thereby associate the mass corporate media with the existing corrupt political establishment it is perceived to incestuously protect, and retain a pure, “underground” revolutionary image to this citizen-led movement. On Tuesday, 29 April I will be interviewing Mary Starrett, Communications Director for the Constitution Party, on my “Future Quake” radio show, broadcast Tuesday night from 8 to 10 PM Central Time on WRFN, 98.9 FM in the greater Nashville TN area. The interview with Dr. Alan Keyes, nomination acceptance speech of Dr. Chuck Baldwin, and excerpts of other convention speeches will also be broadcast during the show. Listeners outside the WRFN FM listening area can listen to Internet streaming audio of the show at www.futurequake.com, and an archived audio copy of the show in .mp3 format will be uploaded and added to other prior “Future Quake” shows on the following day at the same website for subsequent streaming or downloading. Any questions regarding this topic can be addressed to the author at drfuture@futurequake.com. |
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| Noname | Apr 29 2008, 04:46 PM Post #569 |
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Whatever! Her and her sister are nothing but alcholics! And coke addicts! |
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| Denovissimus | Apr 30 2008, 01:11 AM Post #570 |
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They take after their daddy! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Apr 30 2008, 03:45 AM Post #571 |
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Jesse I never heard of the constitution party. I read some of it but not all of it cause it is too long. Some of their principles I like and others I am opposed |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Apr 30 2008, 02:48 PM Post #572 |
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April 30, 2008 Today is an exciting day for our campaign and our movement: my new book, The Revolution: A Manifesto, is officially released. Although a short book, it is the product of many years of thought and action. It is a defense of the principles to which you and I have devoted our lives. My friends are calling it "Ron Paul's legacy." These principles - individual liberty, sound money, the Constitution, and the foreign policy of the Founding Fathers - have had no home in American politics for a very long time. With The Revolution: A Manifesto, I'm letting the establishment know we're not going away. Finally, Americans can hear and judge these great American principles for themselves, instead of through an unfriendly media filter. And they can learn once and for all that they need not be satisfied with the phony choices the system offers them every four years. Another way really is possible. Two days ago I did a book signing in New York at the Borders on Wall Street. All 530 copies had been sold before I even arrived. They had underestimated you again. Imagine the attention our cause and our principles could attract with a fantastic opening day today, with people marching into bookstores across the country for their copies. If it should become a publishing phenomenon, The Revolution: A Manifesto can fuel our revolution for a long time to come. You can make that happen. I hope you enjoy this book, which was a real labor of love for me. Please spread the word. And may the future be ours if I have time on my break today I am going over to B&N and buying this book! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | May 7 2008, 09:10 PM Post #573 |
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----------------- Bulletin Message ----------------- From: Blaine Date: May 7, 2008 4:11 PM Ron Paul Uprising By Dave Maass Published: May 7, 2008 Will a GOP uprising take place at the Republican National Convention? As the mainstream media obsesses over the Democratic Party’s brewing civil war, supporters of Republican presidential candidate US Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, are already staging their own quiet uprising at GOP conventions across the nation.. If, by a strange twist of fate, the Republicans’ presumptive nominee, US Sen John McCain, R-Ariz., fails to win the first ballot at the national convention, “all hell will break loose,” one Santa Fe County delegate tells SFR.. In New Mexico, Paul would need to collect 15 percent of the popular vote to win delegates to the national convention. That’s exceedingly unlikely in New Mexico. McCain barely broke 10 percent in 2000 after George W Bush, like McCain in 2008, became the presumptive nominee following Super Tuesday. Instead, Paul’s grassroots and netroots campaign is attempting to stack the deck with what can only be called “cryptodelegates”—elected delegates to the national convention who are privately supporting Paul’s presidential bid. They would be “bound” to vote for McCain on the first ballot, but may vote for whomever they choose if the nomination is forced to a second ballot.. Already, hell is breaking loose at the county and state levels, especially in the Southwest. YouTube video of the Nevada State Convention last week shows chaos and confusion after a super-majority coalition of state delegates, organized by Paul supporters, overturned party rules to allow new national delegates to be nominated from the convention floor. The Nevada leadership shut down the convention and is currently negotiating a new date. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney won the Nevada caucuses with 51 percent of the vote, but Paul beat McCain 14 percent to 13 percent. New Mexico Republicans will not vote for their nominee until June 3.. Similar skirmishes have been reported in small-town newspapers from Maine to Texas.. Furthermore, much of Paul’s campaign is driven by the 9/11 Truth Movement, which has grown increasingly aggressive, staging disruptions at events ranging from HBO’s Real Time with Bill Maher to public appearances by Bill Clinton.. In New Mexico, Republicans are allowed to self-nominate themselves as national delegates, provided they were registered with the party before the .. Paul’s supporters pushed his book to No 1 on Amazon; can they do the same for Paul at the GOP convention? Governor’s Address on Jan 15.. Last week, the local parties held their County Quadrennial Conventions to nominate delegates to the state convention, where the national delegates will be elected. The New Mexico GOP does not release the names of the state delegates to the media.. However, according to Paul’s New Mexico field coordinator, Jeff Wright, Paul’s delegate count looks good. Wright tells SFR that 19 out of 25 of Santa Fe County’s delegates, seven out of nine of Lincoln County’s delegates and more than 50 of Bernalillo County’s 156 delegates, are Paul supporters.. At the state convention on June 14, 29 delegates and 29 alternates will be elected for the September national convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minn. New Mexico will send a total of 32 national delegates, including three party officials.. “Part of what’s going on, as the candidates run across the country, is that we’re receiving a disproportionate number of the actual delegates,” Wright says. “In Colorado, Ron Paul could receive a majority of the delegates. There’s a high probability that McCain could be denied a first-round ballot nomination..” But a Paul supporter cannot be identified by sight.. The New Mexico page of Paul’s campaign Web site (ronpaul2008. com/states/new-mexico) tells supporters: “It is not recommended for any of the delegate candidates at this stage to ‘fly the colors’ as Ron Paul supporters. Delegates should simply represent themselves as interested, involved and committed Republicans..” Marta Nystrom, an investment advisor and educator in Santa Fe, was elected as a state delegate. She says she’s not interested in becoming a national delegate, but plans to send pro-Paul delegates to Minneapolis in September, both with her convention vote and by fundraising for travel expenses.. “Even if McCain wins on the first ballot, delegates [supporting Paul] at the national convention can still influence the party’s platform,” Nystrom tells SFR via e-mail. “We are in this for the long haul; not the short term. We didn’t lose our country overnight; we won’t regain it overnight either..” I know it is still unlikely, but could you IMAGINE if Ron Paul usurpes McCain's nomination? Can you just imagine if the convention gets turned upside down! Oh that would be the most amazing thing EVER!!!! I already figured there would be thousands of Ron Paul supporters showing up at the convention and holding marches and shit outside, but I wasnt expecting this, if it is true, all these secret delegates going to the convention. |
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| Denovissimus | May 7 2008, 09:45 PM Post #574 |
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That would be phenomenal but it just will not happen. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | May 8 2008, 12:01 AM Post #575 |
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never say never! Anyways either way I think the republican party is going to be shitting their pants when they do see how many Ron Paul supporters and delegates do show up for it. I know if I lived in the midwest I definately would be going. |
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| lozzie.loves.you | May 8 2008, 08:07 AM Post #576 |
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Do you people have a favourite for a president to win? And is it quite popular, the whole president voting and such? |
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| Denovissimus | May 8 2008, 12:15 PM Post #577 |
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I want Obama to win! And this here has me LIVID! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24513529 Supposedly Rush Limbaugh urged Republican voters in Indiana and other states to vote for Clinton because she would be easier to beat than Obama!
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| Denovissimus | May 13 2008, 11:52 PM Post #578 |
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Clinton and her clit just won't go away! She's the projected winner of the racist West Virginia primary today. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | May 14 2008, 03:06 AM Post #579 |
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fucking cooze. We cant have a cooze running this country |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | May 14 2008, 04:46 PM Post #580 |
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fox news discussing the Ron Paul Revolt being planned for the convention http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2c24qpri4 |
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