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| The US 2008 Presidential Race; Obama v McCain-Let's Get Ready to Rumble | |
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| Denovissimus | Mar 2 2008, 06:50 PM Post #481 |
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Too bad Congressman Paul is running a doomed from the start campaign! Vote Obama Michele, and make your vote count! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 2 2008, 06:53 PM Post #482 |
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nope, I am voting for Paul. Like I said before, I have been supporting the man from the beginning and have donated to his campaign. How am I going to do all of that and then not vote for him? I already sent in my voter registration application to change to republican so I can vote for him. And I dont know when his march on washington is going to be yet, but I am fucking going!
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 2 2008, 07:19 PM Post #483 |
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Clinton under pressure to quit White House race by Stephen Collinson 1 hour, 10 minutes ago WESTERVILLE, Ohio (AFP) - Democrat Hillary Clinton faced pressure Sunday to abandon her White House bid heading into pivotal contests in Ohio and Texas that are unlikely to dent Barack Obama's surging momentum. ADVERTISEMENT Democratic grandees who are supporting Obama said that for the sake of party unity, Clinton should consider her options after Tuesday's primary battles as the Republicans rally behind their heir apparent, John McCain. The pressure on the former first lady intensified as new polls suggested she was deadlocked with Obama in Texas and Ohio, far from the kind of blowout wins that she needs to overhaul his lead among Democratic delegates. However, the former first lady has come out firing against her rival, issuing an ominous television spot that suggests Obama would be ill-prepared to protect US children in the event of a foreign-policy crisis. "This is a wartime election," she told a rally Sunday in the Ohio town of Westerville. "For some people, this election is about how you feel. It is about speeches. That is not what it is about for me," she said. "It is about solutions." One party elder not yet endorsing either candidate, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, said "the bickering between these two very fine senators is going on too long" as they fought running battles over national security. "D Day is Tuesday. We have to have a positive campaign after Tuesday," Richardson, who abandoned his own White House bid in January, said on CBS News. "Whoever has the most delegates after Tuesday, a clear lead, should be in my judgment the nominee." The latest count of nominating delegates by website RealClearPolitics shows Obama leading by 1,389 to Clinton's 1,279, with the freshman senator pulling into the lead after 11 nominating wins in a row. A total of 2,025 delegates is needed for victory at the Democrats' August nominating convention in Denver. Tuesday's votes look unlikely to change that picture much, given that Democratic primaries award delegates on a proportional basis. A new poll by Ohio's Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper found Senator Clinton slightly ahead in the economically struggling state, by 47-43 percent. Senator Obama led in Texas by 46-45 percent, according to polling by McClatchy Newspapers, MSNBC television and the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. The results were within the four-point margin of error for both polls. Senator Richard Durbin, who is backing his Illinois colleague Obama, denied that Clinton would face orchestrated pressure to bow out after Tuesday "because all of us respect her and her family." "But I hope that there's an honest appraisal of her chances to win the nomination after Tuesday," he told Fox News Sunday. "And having made that appraisal... I hope she'll understand that we need to bring our party together and prepare for a victory in November, which is the ultimate goal." Clinton's communications advisor Howard Wolfson was adamant that the race would go on beyond Tuesday, with delegate-rich Pennsylvania the next big state to vote in April. "What I'm saying is, we're going to have a great day on Tuesday. We're going to win this nomination. This nomination fight is going to go forward after Ohio and Texas," he said on ABC television. "We're going to go to Pennsylvania, where a lot more Americans are going to vote, and we're going to be the nominee in Denver." Wolfson meanwhile raised questions about Obama's links to a Chicago property developer, Antoin Rezko, whose federal trial for corruption is set to open on Monday. Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod said the Rezko affair had been "thoroughly reviewed" by the Chicago and national press. "No one has asserted any wrongdoing on the part of Senator Obama," he said, while demanding that Clinton release her recent tax returns, and records from her time as first lady. McCain, a Vietnam war hero and foreign-policy veteran, looks set to seal the Republican nomination on Tuesday by eliminating the pesky challenge of former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee. The Arizona senator is already framing the presidential election in terms of who can best take on the "transcendent challenge" of Islamic extremism, and accuses the Democrats of wanting to cut and run from Iraq. Obama fired back by insisting that both Clinton and McCain gave the "wrong answer" to the foremost policy question of recent years, whether to invade Iraq. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 2 2008, 07:21 PM Post #484 |
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I could be totally wrong, but I would think that Obama has more chance in PA than Hillary. The Philadelphia region being heavily democrat, and heavily black, I think the chances are in his favor. Of course that is not the whole state, but it is where most of the states population resides. Also more of central and western PA are republican so they wont be voting in the democratic primary anyway. |
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| Denovissimus | Mar 3 2008, 03:46 PM Post #485 |
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It's Clinton, not Obama. No, it's Obama! The Associated Press Article Last Updated: 02/26/2008 07:33:27 PM MST NORRISTOWN, Pa.—Montgomery County authorities say a man stabbed his brother-in-law during an argument over who should get the Democratic nomination for president. What's more, Jose Ortiz, 28, who's charged with felony assault, is a registered Republican. District Attorney Risa Ferman said Ortiz supports Hillary Clinton and Sean Shurelds supports Barack Obama. She told reporters Monday that the two got into an argument in a Collegeville home Thursday night and Shurelds tried to choke Ortiz. She says Ortiz then stabbed Shurelds in the abdomen. Shurelds was taken to a hospital in critical condition, but is expected to recover. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 3 2008, 03:58 PM Post #486 |
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what fucking idiots! |
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| Denovissimus | Mar 4 2008, 01:16 PM Post #487 |
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Primaries today in Texas, Ohio, Vermont, and Rhode Island. Crush that cunt Obama! Obama power!
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 4 2008, 02:15 PM Post #488 |
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Rock the vote Obama!
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 5 2008, 02:52 AM Post #489 |
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WASHINGTON - Mike Huckabee is dropping out of the presidential race. ADVERTISEMENT The former Arkansas governor is withdrawing after John McCain clinched the nomination by getting 1,191 delegates. Huckabee was the Arizona senator's chief remaining rival. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 5 2008, 03:45 AM Post #490 |
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McCain seals nod; Clinton, Obama joust By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 11 minutes ago WASHINGTON - Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton split a pair of New England primaries Tuesday night and vied for bigger prizes in Ohio and Texas in a riveting Democratic presidential race. Arizona Sen. John McCain, an unflinching supporter of the war in Iraq War, clinched the Republican nomination. ADVERTISEMENT "We are in Iraq and our most vital security interests are involved there," said McCain at a victory celebration nearly a decade in the making. Obama won Vermont's Democratic primary, gaining nearly 60 percent of the vote for a 12th straight victory over the former first lady. Clinton countered quickly, winning in Rhode Island, and gaining roughly 60 percent support in the process. Ohio and Texas were the big trophies of the night, rich in delegates and � according to Bill Clinton � must-win states for his wife. Obama held a narrow lead in Texas with votes from nearly 20 percent of the precincts counted. The former first lady was in front in Ohio, where votes from about 40 percent of the precincts showed her with 57 percent of the vote. Fucking McCain!
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 5 2008, 01:33 PM Post #491 |
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Democrats vie for delegates By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer Wed Mar 5, 2:20 AM ET WASHINGTON - Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton split delegates in four states Tuesday while Republican John McCain claimed his party's nomination for president. ADVERTISEMENT Clinton picked up at least 115 delegates in Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont and Texas, while Obama picked up at least 88. Nearly 170 delegates were still to be awarded, including 154 in Texas. Obama had a total of 1,477 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates, according to the Associated Press count. He picked up three superdelegate endorsements Tuesday, Clinton had 1,391 delegates. It will take 2,025 delegates to secure the Democratic nomination. McCain surpassed the 1,191 delegates needed to secure the nomination by winning delegates in the four states. He also picked up new endorsements from about 30 party officials who will automatically attend the convention and can support whomever they choose. McCain had 1,224 delegates, according to the AP count. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who had 261 delegates, dropped out of the race Tuesday night. The AP tracks the delegate races by calculating the number of national convention delegates won by candidates in each presidential primary or caucus, based on state and national party rules, and by interviewing unpledged delegates to obtain their preferences. Most primaries and some caucuses are binding, meaning delegates won by the candidates are pledged to support that candidate at the national conventions this summer. Political parties in some states, however, use multistep procedures to award national delegates. Typically, such states use local caucuses to elect delegates to state or congressional district conventions, where national delegates are selected. In these states, the AP uses the results from local caucuses to calculate the number of national delegates each candidate will win, if the candidate's level of support at the caucus doesn't change. I love how they still dont even mention Ron Paul at all. Yeah McCain won the nomination with the number of delegates, but Ron Paul still isnt dropping out. He is going to the convention as a candidate. He is trudging on to continue to get his message out to as many people as he can, open america's eyes as much as he can. Him and Kucinich won their congressional seats yesterday. He won by a landslide. |
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| Nicky Mayfair | Mar 5 2008, 01:53 PM Post #492 |
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marvellously mischievous
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Hilary is the comeback queen! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 5 2008, 02:00 PM Post #493 |
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if she looses in my state then she is toast! |
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| Noname | Mar 5 2008, 02:21 PM Post #494 |
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Mccain said who do you want answering the phone at 3:00 am! Bitch, not you! |
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| Denovissimus | Mar 5 2008, 10:14 PM Post #495 |
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Which is why you must vote Obama Michele! Stop that cunt in her tracks! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 6 2008, 12:03 AM Post #496 |
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too late, my registration has already been changed to republican, and I am still voting for Ron Paul! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 6 2008, 12:32 AM Post #497 |
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Do-over in Michigan and Florida? By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 22 minutes ago WASHINGTON - Officials in Michigan and Florida are showing renewed interest in holding repeat presidential nominating contests so that their votes will count in the epic Democratic campaign. ADVERTISEMENT The governors of both states, along with top officials in Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign, are now saying they would consider holding a sort of do-over contest by June. That's a change from their previous insistence that the primaries their states held in January should determine how the states' delegates are allocated. Clinton won both contests, but the results were meaningless because the elections violated national party rules. Neither Clinton nor her rival Barack Obama campaigned in either state, and Obama's name wasn't even on the Michigan ballot. The Democratic National Committee stripped both states of all their delegates for holding the primaries too early, and all Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign in either state. Florida and Michigan moved up their dates to protest the party's decision to allow Iowa and New Hampshire to go first, followed by South Carolina and Nevada, giving them a disproportionate influence on the presidential selection process. But no one predicted the race would still be very close this late in the year. Ironically Michigan and Florida could have held crucial primaries if they had stayed with their traditional later dates. They may yet do so if they decide to hold news contests as Clinton and Obama compete to the wire. Clinton has been insisting that the desires of more than 2 million people who cast Democratic ballots in the two states should be reflected at the convention, which would help her catch up with Obama's delegate lead. Obama has said he wants to see the delegates from the two critical swing states participate, too, but not if Clinton is rewarded for victories in boycotted primaries. Now the Clinton campaign has begun expressing openness to a do-over. "Let's let all of the voters go again if they are willing to do it," said Clinton adviser Terry McAuliffe Tuesday night on MSNBC. "Whatever we have to do to get people in the system, let's do it." The new contests could be part of a strategy for Clinton to come back in the race and attract votes from superdelegates who are not bound by any primary or caucus votes, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell told the network. "Let's assume for the moment Hillary Clinton wins Ohio and Texas, she wins Pennsylvania, Florida and Michigan have primaries in June, she wins both of those," said Rendell, who has endorsed Clinton. "Then, can the superdelegates look at that and say, `Gosh, she's won the last five big primaries in a row. She's won almost every big primary since we began.'" Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Clinton supporter, told the Detroit Free Press that Clinton's victory in Ohio changes "the landscape a bit." She said it could open the door to a caucus, if it can be privately funded and both candidates agree. Granholm, a Democrat, and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, a Republican, issued a joint statement Wednesday demanding that their states' delegates be seated. "We each will call upon our respective state and national party chairs to resolve this matter and to ensure that the voters of Michigan and Florida are full participants in the formal selection of their parties' nominees," the statement said. Crist told reporters at a news conference that he would be open to another primary, but not if Florida has to foot the bill, estimated by the Florida Democratic Party to be $25 million. He said he discussed the option with Sen. Bill Nelson, the state's senior Democrat. "He said the only way to consider the possibility of that is to have the Democratic National Committee pay for it," Crist said. Getting funding from the national committee might be difficult when the party has a general election to wage. Last August, the DNC offered to pay for a later, alternate contest, but the Florida state party rejected the idea. Michigan Democrats are discussing holding a "firehouse" contest in May or June that would be an alternative to a traditional primary or caucus and run by the state party, said a Democratic Party official who has been part of the discussions. "Firehouse" contests usually have fewer polling places and shorter voting hours than traditional state-run primary elections. The party official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private, said there was general consensus that it could not be held at taxpayers' expense and would attempt to generate participation from about 1 million state Democrats. House and Senate Democrats from Florida and Michigan planned to meet Wednesday night on Capitol Hill to discuss ways of getting their state's delegates seated at the Democratic National Convention, Democratic aides said. Florida Democratic Party Chairwoman Karen Thurman said the party is open to another vote, as long as it meets three criteria. Both candidates would have to fully participate, a source of funding would have to be provided and it would have to allow all the state's Democrats to participate, including those serving in the military overseas. So far, she said, no suggested alternative has met those requirements. "It is very possible that no satisfactory alternative plan will emerge, in which case Florida Democrats will remain committed to seating the delegates allocated by the January 29th primary," Thurman said in a statement. The Obama campaign says whether to have a repeat contest is up to the national committee, but has signaled a willingness to participate. "We're going to abide by their rules as they exist now and whatever happens in the future," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe told reporters Wednesday. "I don't think it's for our campaign or her campaign — we're in a heated contest here — to have to be the facilitators here," Plouffe said. "This is between the DNC and those state parties." ___ Associated Press writers Ken Thomas in Washington, Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich., and Brendan Farrington in Tallahassee, Fla., contributed to this report. |
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| Denovissimus | Mar 6 2008, 12:35 AM Post #498 |
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That fucking cunt! See what she does to get elected? She created FEAR commercials for Ohio and Texas and then this shit. You have to stop her Michele! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Mar 6 2008, 12:47 AM Post #499 |
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my one vote is not going to stop her! She is a cunt, I agree and I dislike her more and more |
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| Denovissimus | Mar 6 2008, 01:09 AM Post #500 |
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You never know what that one vote could do! |
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