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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 22 2007, 07:28 AM (1,038 Views) | |
| Taman | Sep 22 2007, 07:28 AM Post #1 |
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The Darksider
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I have never been afraid of death. One could say that I have spent a great time of my life hoping for it (for myself). I have always felt like I was sent here as a punishment (for my actions?). That I did not really want to come back here, that I was already tired of life and seen it all; when they decided that I had not learned my lession and whoosh I was back. So I have this great fear that I will live to be a hundred years old just because I do not really want to but because I am way too stubborn and too much of a mean bastard to give in. When others die, those close to me, I never feel too much sorrow. It is the part that you never get to see them again that is most hard. But mostly I just feel that they have done their part in this life and they are lucky because they can finally rest. To become one with the "force" in away. As much as I feel that I am ready to go, I have also noticed that in situations when I have been close to death, the other side of me takes charge and makes damn certain I will not die. And it is stronger. It is the part that says that I am not done yet. That there are things to do and that I should enjoy it as much as I can as there is nothing after death. Only the dark sleep that never ends. It seems that everything is made of two sides. Life and death. Light and darkness. Female and male. I have come to the conclusion, finally, that I need to live this through, suffer and get tired, because to completely understand darkness, you must understand the light. And I am pretty sure I understand darkness much better and therefore not at all. What do you think about death? Are you afraid of it, do you call for it or is it simply the next step that will some day happen? |
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| Jane | Sep 22 2007, 05:19 PM Post #2 |
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Board Bitch!
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I've thought alot about it...and it still scares me. Will it hurt? Is it really the end or the beginning? Too many unknown variables! In some ways the thought that there is nothing after is horrible, like it is all pointless. But in others..... well at least you don't have to think anymore, or miss anyone. I don't think our lives are wasted, nothing in nature is wasted, I hope our knowledge or our essense goes on somehow. This brings me to having kids...our way of preserving our immortality. Maybe we don't really die until we are no longer remembered by anyone living? Anne Rice, a lady who has obviously been as pre-occupied with death as we have, said it best through Gabrielle. When she was dying she said to Lestat that she wanted it to be so painful near the end that when death came she would be glad of it. How I feel is if I got ill, or live to be old, I would fight it, until it was obvious that to continue to live would be worse than my idea of death. Obviously if my death is quick and unexpected I won't have much choice!!! My favourite poem about death Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night. Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night. Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Dylan Thomas |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 22 2007, 10:48 PM Post #3 |
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Skittle Skank
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I am extremely scared of death, I wish I could live forever, or not even forever but I wish I could live like 200-300 years, like the human race in Lord of the Rings do, because less than 100 years, which is how long most people only live, is way too short. The months and years go by so fast and they seem to go by faster and faster every year. I dont want to go by so fast, I want it to slow down! I hate it when people die. I am an atheist so I think that most likely there is no afterlife.And even if there is in a way I am kind of scared to find out what it is exactly. But I am also very scared of not existing. It is hard for me when someone dies, especially if a person dies young. A bigger fear of mine is not only dying, but dying young. Especially dying before I am say 60. But even in my 60's to me is too young. I want to live to at least my 80's if not longer. I just heard today about a girl I graduated highschool with who died a few days ago. She is the same age as me so that made her 29/30.
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| Taman | Sep 23 2007, 03:33 PM Post #4 |
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The Darksider
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See I just do not understand that. It's not like it's going to get any better for sure it is going to get worse. Life that is. If at some point I find someone changing my diapers at a retirement home, I am taking that shot-gun. As for having kids to continue my blood, I say hell no. First I would never bring anyone into this suffering and second... as soon as you have kids, you start living for them not for yourself. And I am a very selfish person. Also I am scared of them.
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 24 2007, 03:08 PM Post #5 |
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Skittle Skank
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no one will be changing my diapers because I take very good care of myself, I believe in holistic living and if people would just live as their bodies are meant to, if they take care of their bodies properly, feed it clean natural food and herbs necessary to function at optimum levels, then I can be in my 90s and still be moving around, vicarious, vivacious, full of energy. That is my plan for myself. |
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| Taman | Sep 24 2007, 04:38 PM Post #6 |
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The Darksider
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Well I am a pessimistic realist so I always expect the possible worst. I never see myself happy as an old woman and in my "foresees" I am always alone. As for afterlife I am not afraid of that either. I would like it better if there was nothing. But if there needs to be something I would rather it was sort of collective understanding of everything. No heaven or hell for me. I do not want anyone bossing me around after death. And if they are going to send me back, I will just scream and scream till the heavens bleed. |
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| Jane | Sep 24 2007, 06:22 PM Post #7 |
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If there is a heaven and hell I'll be so surprised I'll probably die a second time through the shock! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 24 2007, 11:07 PM Post #8 |
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Skittle Skank
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haha! me too jane!!! |
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| Julesy | Sep 25 2007, 02:01 AM Post #9 |
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deliciously domestic
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Of course I fear death. I dont know anyone who actually TRUELY welcomes it. I mean, if it happens it happens. Ill be dead and wont care anyway. Im just scared of a slow death. Knowing I will die and actually having a time frame. At least if you are oblivious to your time of death you can enjoy life more without that hanging over your head. As for the afterlife....I dont know. I reckon some part of us continues, what part and how, I dont begin to imagine.
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 25 2007, 12:30 PM Post #10 |
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Skittle Skank
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I guess the one good thing about a slow death, is you have time and the opportunity to say goodbye to all your loved ones, and make sure that your affairs are taken care of, so the deserving people get your stuff! lol |
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| Denovissimus | Sep 25 2007, 06:27 PM Post #11 |
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Immortal Heretic
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I don't fear death. It's just a transition from one form to another. I just fear the means by which death comes. They can be quite horrific. We all ideally would like a peaceful death, but we know that is not reality. I shall die in battle against the true forces of evil!
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 25 2007, 07:11 PM Post #12 |
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Skittle Skank
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jesse another good point, yet another aspect about death that is scary to me. I guess the best and only decent way to go is to die naturally in your sleep. My sister's friend Trish, her mom died when she was 16. Her and her mom had a really bad relationship, very verbally abusive on both sides. The last thing Trish said to her mom was that she hated her. Her mom died in a car accident a day or so later. She not only died in a car accident, but she was decapitated. Actually other parts of her body besides her head were severed from the body. Rarely do you hear someone die in a car accident in such a way. Isnt that horrible? oh and then her brother was murdered 2 years ago at the age of 19 |
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| Rodney | Oct 9 2007, 03:07 AM Post #13 |
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Bon Qui Qui
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oooh, such a cheerful bunch we are!
;) I thought about death a lot when I was younger and convinced that life, is a horrible thing. So much hardship and drama...can`t I just die and have it all done and over with? In hindsight(It`s such wonderful thing,hindsight) I have to say that it was a bit presumptuous. I`ve learned that most things in life is about choices. My selfpity was self inflicted. If one is generally unhappy about their lot then and much rather die than it`s their choice to keep that dispostion, in my opinion. I have been fortunate enough to not have had death staring me in the face. And I`m glad to know that, if it did, I`d run a mile! I have learned a lot about myself in a relative short space of time. i`m not saying, that I`m completely at peace with myself or anything but, I do feel a damn sight happier than I did when I was younger. I made a conscious decision to not just sit there and feel miserable and wishing for Death to come round and pick me up for a free ride to the prearly gates. i could either choose to stay miserable or, try my damndest to do someting about it. I`m quite content with who I am and what i have at the moment but, there is still so much that i want achieve and gain. But for that to succeed, i`d have to do that from a fearless place. I can`t fully operate with optimum efficiency with the fear for death seeping through my brains. I don`t fear death but, i don`t welcome it, either. I accept that it`s there but i`m happy to give it a wide berth and focus on what is going on right now. Why should I worry about death? It`ll only set me up for a probable possibilty of not reaching my full potential in this life. I`m not too worried about what would happen after death. I don`t see really why that would be benificial to what I have and want from this life. That`s the only certainty that I have; I`m alive right now and one day it`ll be over. I better spend my time usefully, meaning that, I don`t dwell on what death is or means to me in terms of what i do now. i feel that death will only hinder me. |
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| Auntie Maine | Oct 22 2007, 07:31 PM Post #14 |
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Bitchy Witch
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Live for today for you are a long time dead.
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| Derblutsaguer | Feb 26 2008, 05:02 AM Post #15 |
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The Great Old One
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"Bibamus moriendum est" Death is unavoidable so let's have a drink
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| Amethyst | Aug 31 2008, 11:40 AM Post #16 |
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Newbie
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I don't know how atheists can accept non-existence... The very thought terrifies me. The thought that everything held sacred here on earth should up and vanish upon dying. That's my beef with it, I suppose, that all I've loved on earth should cease to be, rather than simply failing to exist myself. |
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| Rodney | Aug 31 2008, 12:19 PM Post #17 |
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Bon Qui Qui
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What would it matter if all you love ceases to exist when you are to meet the same fate. If death is nothing then, so is your fear. The only fear you then should have is the fear of wasting time on thinking about what your death means and what it will be like etc. Luckily, what we do know is that; death doesn't necissarily mean the end to what you create in life. We still know of painters who have croaked eages ago. We remember friends who have gone before us, we see our parents/grandparents etc in our childrens'/brothers/sisters'/etc. faces. The list goes on and on. There really is not much room for death when you are alive; so don't waste too much time on it. You might be dead before you can do/create something to be remembered by. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Aug 31 2008, 12:47 PM Post #18 |
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Skittle Skank
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well everything on earth continues to be, we just are no longer here to enjoy its splendor when we die. I am an atheist. but I dont completely discount that there is nothing after we die, that our spirit doesnt live on. I am not saying I think we definately do, but I dont discount the possibility. I just dont see how the spirit living on after death, if it does, having to have to have anything to do with a god of any kind, or a heaven or a hell. I definately do not think that hell exists. but death terrifies me more than anything, whether there is an afterlife or not. I would much rather be in the flesh either way, I would much rather be alive and living life than be half my former self in a spirit, or to not exist at all. I cant imagine the world without me, and I try to not think about it. I am naricisstic that way. |
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| Rodney | Aug 31 2008, 01:58 PM Post #19 |
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Bon Qui Qui
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I can imagine the world without you. I think about it almost everyday. Sometimes even dream about it. Iīm joking!!! You know I loves you, right? But seriously. What I wanted to ask is: if you are an atheist but, donīt rule out the existence of ` a life beyond the living`. Doesnīt that make you agnostic? Or do you think that īlabel` is just too close to be `gnostic`i.e. religious, for yourself? |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Aug 31 2008, 02:13 PM Post #20 |
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Skittle Skank
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didnt I just say that I dont believe a possible spirit realm after has to have anything at all to do with a god or gods or a creator? |
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