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Julesy Sep 11 2007, 10:15 PM Post #41
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Thanks for your insights/thoughts

I was wondering the same thing "Why and how much money do they want?" I guess on the larger scale it ISNT what they want.

its truly frightening. i hope I die before that final plan is executed. maybe I can sustain my soul.

I wonder if thats why technology is so super fast and so sophisticated compared to a few decades ago.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Sep 11 2007, 11:19 PM Post #42
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yeah hopefully we will all wake up for our listless zombie existance and stop this from happening or it wont be executed completely in our life times. But if not in ours, most likely our children's adulthood.

I think just knowing that they can control everyone, if they pull it off, is the ultimate power, the ultimate rush or high.


If you click on the activism link at the bottom of the website, it tells you about Congressman Ron Paul who is running for president and he is one of the few congressmen who completely recognizes what is going on, is not controlled by corporate interests, and is vehemetly against it all and has been working tirelessly and ruthelssly to stop it.

He is a republican and a christian and a pro lifer, but to me what is most important here is our liberty, our health freedom (he is also pro holistic herbs and medicine and is against the FDA trying to outlaw natural supplements) and smaller government that abides by the constitution. I have never even heard of Ron Paul before, and I think it is because the media is not covering his campaign, because he is the only one who is pro civil liberties, anti the patriotic act, he didnt vote for the Iraq war and he is still against it, and pro health freedom.

I never thought I would vote for a republican, but I will be voting for him if he wins the republican ticket.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Sep 11 2007, 11:20 PM Post #43
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http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/
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Julesy Sep 12 2007, 12:02 AM Post #44
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thanks for that info Michele.

lets hope THEY dont get thier hands on him.

i dislike pro lifers(especially men) though..and republicans. its a total consideration
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la anaconda de chocolatee Sep 12 2007, 12:38 AM Post #45
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yeah normally I wouldnt go for a republican christian pro lifer, but abortion is soooooooo not at all the important issue right now. Hell he can make abortion illegal, I dont care about that right now.

But being that he is a christian and a republican, if he can get the support of most of the christian majority, then he has a good shot.

On his website it shows his voting record. He has been in congress for many years and he has never once changed his position on anything, he has never once compromised what he believes in to vote a different way, even if he is the only one in congress who is voting that way. :clap

I also dont agree with him on immigration, but again, not the most important issue right now, nothing can hold precident to our civil liberties and our health freedom.
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Julesy Sep 12 2007, 12:46 AM Post #46
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On his website it shows his voting record. He has been in congress for many years and he has never once changed his position on anything, he has never once compromised what he believes in to vote a different way, even if he is the only one in congress who is voting that way


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I also dont agree with him on immigration, but again, not the most important issue right now, nothing can hold precident to our civil liberties and our health freedom.


true dat!

how come only you Jesse and I are posting here?
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Julesy Sep 12 2007, 12:51 AM Post #47
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Im on his site now

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.



:rocks
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la anaconda de chocolatee Sep 12 2007, 12:54 AM Post #48
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:rocks :rocks :rocks :rocks :rocks


I dont know why we are the only ones who post here, are we the only ones who care?
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Julesy Sep 12 2007, 12:55 AM Post #49
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i dunno! maybe they are snowed under like the rest! :shrug
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Denovissimus Sep 12 2007, 01:29 PM Post #50
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A couple of the sites I get my info from are endorsing Ron Paul. I really just don't want to give credence to the whole Repuglican name. Why can't he change parties? Not to Democrat, but to Independent or something? While I am impressed by his voting records, he still in some senses follows the Repuglican "moral" agenda with abortion. I suppose I would rather have him though than Hillary.
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like I said I really disagree with his abortion stance and immigration stance, but to me those are just paultry issues right now when we are dealing with being stripped of all of our liberties and freedoms. And I am very impressed that he is not at all swayed by corporate interests, probably the only congressman who isnt! It sucks I cant vote for him in the primaries though, since I am registered democrat. Unless I re register to independent. Maybe I will do that just so I can go and vote for him in the primaries
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Julesy Sep 12 2007, 03:18 PM Post #52
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its like choosing the lesser of two evils
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la anaconda de chocolatee Sep 12 2007, 03:51 PM Post #53
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I just read an article where he is anti gay marriage as well, but we arent going to find a canidate on either side who is, at least not in this election. Making gay marriage legal is something that is not going to happen for a very long time anyway, no matter who wins the presidency. Here is an article that is on his website:

Ron Paul revolutionaries
Anna Piontek | IDS | 9/11/2007
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You’ve seen his smarmy grin. In the IMU, on the square and plastered over the kiosks. His flyers beckon you with the question:

“Who is Ron Paul, and why is he trying to save my country?”

Aaron Jones, a leader in IU Students for Ron Paul, said Paul is a “shining gem in a pile of shit.”

Unfortunately, I didn’t have to think very hard about which “pile” Aaron was talking about. He was talking about American politics.

Paul is a Texas congressman, and perhaps the least known and most extreme of the Republican presidential candidates. He is a libertarian, self-proclaimed “constitutionalist,” and an anomaly in America’s two-party system.

In recent months, Paul has been (wrongfully) accused of blaming the U.S. for 9/11. Bush supporters both abhor and marginalize Paul by depriving him of “true” Republican status. And on a flyer on Walnut Street someone adorned Paul’s forehead with a big ole’ swastika.

Yet despite heat from all sides, Ron Paul mania has seized the Internet. Under no conditions other than the democracy of the Internet could Paul’s various supporters meaningfully unite. The quick-thinking, fast-talking politician is endorsed by all shades of the political spectrum, albeit for different reasons.

As of this past Thursday, Ron Paul mania officially entered IU domain.

Much to the organizers’ delight, more than 20 people showed up for the Students for Ron Paul meeting. As I expected, we were a diverse bunch.

Social conservatives like Paul’s typical Texan qualities – he is anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion. Libertarians like him because he wants to diminish the power of all federal agencies and because he hates taxes. But the reason Paul is the underdog favorite among all walks of American life, and why I like him, is his foreign policy.

For starters, Paul was one of the few congressmen to vote against the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq. Second, Paul has refuted the simplistic “Muslims just hate us” theory for 9/11. He is not interested in the reductive propaganda concerning the war in Iraq and the impending war with Iran. Instead, Paul rightfully believes that America is an imperial power in the Middle East, and that it is foreign policy blowback – not “they just hate us” – that has contributed to 9/11 and the civil war in Iraq.

Students for Ron Paul wisely highlight Paul’s foreign policy. A chalking outside the music school reads, “Bomb Iran? Or (elect) Ron Paul?” In the quagmire that is American foreign policy, Ron Paul offers the only real option in the coming years – America must back off.

Stephen Colbert has explained Ron Paul as “an enigma, wrapped in a riddle, nestled in a sesame seed bun of mystery.” Paul’s positions on foreign policy and candid speech render him the most progressive candidate, and yet he is fiscally and socially conservative.

But truthfully, the only real enigma here is American politics, where the droid-like politicians never venture outside party boundaries.
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For starters, Paul was one of the few congressmen to vote against the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq. Second, Paul has refuted the simplistic “Muslims just hate us” theory for 9/11. He is not interested in the reductive propaganda concerning the war in Iraq and the impending war with Iran. Instead, Paul rightfully believes that America is an imperial power in the Middle East, and that it is foreign policy blowback – not “they just hate us” – that has contributed to 9/11 and the civil war in Iraq.


i dislike his view on same sex marriage but like you said, its not on the forefront

good god why doesnt a candidate exist where I like at least 70% of thier views?
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yeah. I mean if all of our civil liberties are taken away from us then it doesnt matter if gay marriage is legal or not, you wont have the right to even breathe without being monitored. None of us will have any rights at all.
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Julesy Sep 12 2007, 04:25 PM Post #56
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very true.

it sucks that it has come down to this and it sucks more that most people arent aware or even bother to keep an open mind

I know I told my sisters to watch and one got mad about the whole religion crap she shut it off.

Im the only mo fo who is baptised, had my first communion and has been confirmed
and she has only had one! and shes IFFY about religion.


let it go! wow it pisses me off

its not all about that!
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la anaconda de chocolatee Sep 12 2007, 04:42 PM Post #57
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then why would the first part piss her off?

I posted about this movie on Pioneer Thinking discussion board, another board I post on sometimes and I told people, even if you are religious and dont believe the first part of the movie about jesus being a myth, that is fine. Just dont stop watching it because of that, the second and third part are of upmost importance.
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then why would the first part piss her off?


cause it sorta denouces her religious beliefs. and makes it trivial

my oldest sister is OLD SCHOOL and has not an ounce of an OPEN MIND

my grandparents pray the rosary EVERYDAY and go to church just as much.
THE NUNS go to my grandparents house every other day!

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These past two presidential elections have proven to me that elections can be fixed anyway, I don't place much faith in them.

Those evil fucks behind the scenes decide who is going to be the false face of america, they let us think our votes count to continue the illusion that we have a say so in this country.
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true, very true. But we cant give up hope, cant stop trying to change things
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