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| The Philosophy of Infidelity | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 12 2006, 09:52 AM (2,049 Views) | |
| Hunter | Nov 19 2006, 01:16 AM Post #21 |
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I really dont know how to explain my views on this anymore so *shrugs* |
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| Denovissimus | Nov 19 2006, 01:25 AM Post #22 |
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Hunter gets it! Michele I don't think we could have an open door policy. I know Miguel wouldn't, he's not a whore like me. Sex and love go great together Jules, but they don't need each other. If your man was in an accident and paralyzed from the waist down and couldn't fuck no more would you leave him because of it? Or would you stay with him because you love him? That's the point! |
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| Julesy | Nov 19 2006, 01:26 AM Post #23 |
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being able and willing is different. of course i would still be in love with him.if he deliberatle didnt give me sex, then no dice. |
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| Denovissimus | Nov 19 2006, 01:33 AM Post #24 |
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Then you are placing more of a value on sex in your relationship than actual love. I haven't been getting much sex lately, deliberately, for whatever reason. But I'm not leaving Miguel because of it. I'm placing more value on love than sex...I can get sex anywhere, but not love. |
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| Julesy | Nov 19 2006, 01:36 AM Post #25 |
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:hug aww your a bigger person than me.( im not being condescending, either) for me, love would only take me so far..i would wonder why he wasnt giving me sex cause obviously there is a reason |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Nov 19 2006, 01:51 AM Post #26 |
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exactly Jules! I agree with you 100% Jesse, instead of just accepting no sex, or straying elsewhere, why not find out what the problem is and work it out with Miguel? If you dont try to fix it, that tells me that maybe you are afraid to find out what the problem is. Besides, it is not just the no sex thing with you and Miguel. You bend over backwards for him and he never does for you, he takes you for granted. And to me it seems like he has a drinking problem. That is what I get from the things that you tell me. |
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| Denovissimus | Nov 19 2006, 02:05 AM Post #27 |
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He drinks a lot, yes, and I fear it is affecting his health. But he will not stop and there's nothing I can do but accept his ill decision. He still works, takes care of his bills, etc. I will not leave him because of it, because he's doing no harm to me, only to himself. It's like a person who doesn't eat healthy. You know what they are eating is going to kill them, but do you leave them for it? Not me. As far as to why we aren't having sex, I have tried to breach the subject but he waves it off. It does have me wondering. If he wasn't attracted to me anymore then why still be with me? I've asked him this, he says he loves me and that there is no problem. And I'm not making lack of sex a problem cause it leaves me to explore other sexual options, which I've hinted to him already. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Nov 19 2006, 02:38 AM Post #28 |
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you are right, you cant make him stop drinking, he can only stop that on his own when he wants to. But his drinking does affect your relationship with him. How many times has he not called and not shown up when he was supposed to because he was out drinking all night? How many times has he asked you for money because he spent all of his? (probably on booze and gambling) How many times do you drive him to work all the time? And why doesnt he have a license? Is it because it is suspended because of a dui? I remember you telling us one time that he wasnt even able to go to the movies with you without sneaking alcohol in with him. Obviously, you arent listening to me, which is fine. I just think that you deserve MUCH better than Miguel. |
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| Denovissimus | Nov 19 2006, 02:58 AM Post #29 |
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Don't know where you got that sneaking alcohol into the theatre one cause that never happened. His license was not suspended because of a DUI. He failed to show up for court for basic traffic violations, non drinking related. It's all clear now. Though he has yet to go get his license. Him going out and not calling is not something new in most relationships so though I may fret, its not something to call it quits over. It can be said that maybe Miguel deserves someone better than me as well so I can't follow that line, I'm not innocent nor an angel. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Nov 19 2006, 03:50 AM Post #30 |
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no one is an angel, no one is perfect. Obviously you are going to continue to defend him and continue on as is. that is fine. I only debate with you because I care deeply for you and I dont think that Miguel is no where near good enough for you. And you are too good for him. You treat him far better than he treats you, you give your all to your relationship and he doesnt. So yes, you deserve better and he does not deserve as good as you. |
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| Hunter | Nov 19 2006, 04:26 AM Post #31 |
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:girly :)
From your posts in this thread alone, Jesse It shines like a super strong spotlight how much you love Miguel You come to his defense, when most would not You even say you're not innocent and no angel When you could have turned around and put him down badly Its very admirin' Miguel would be so proud of all that you have posted in this thread For me its not about the sex being as great as the love and the less problems/fights the better Yeah theres some partners out there that hardly have any drama That doesnt make the partners that do have drama, any less in value The way I see it is .... .... Love is perfect Most relationships are not. |
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| Hunter | Nov 19 2006, 04:38 AM Post #32 |
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P.S ~ Michele your awesome how much you care for Jesse !!! |
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| Denovissimus | Nov 19 2006, 04:53 AM Post #33 |
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I love that! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Nov 19 2006, 05:24 AM Post #34 |
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THANK YOU HUNTER! HE DOESNT APPRECIATE! And just for the record, I predict that this time next year, Miguel and Jesse will no longer be together. That is my prediction and I am sticking to it! |
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| Hunter | Nov 19 2006, 05:37 AM Post #35 |
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:D Again my bad habit stikes Meant to type *You're awesome Not - your Errrrrrrrrrrrrrr me :rolleyes Lol Michele thats mean !!! They might not be together then But at least once upon a time they shared a great bond :) |
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| Denovissimus | Nov 19 2006, 05:45 AM Post #36 |
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We WILL be together! Michele just wants to seduce me with her wicked vagina! She's a proven home wrecker you know. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Nov 19 2006, 07:09 AM Post #37 |
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I have no interest in seducing you with my vagina. How could I when you refuse to ever visit me? |
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| Hunter | Nov 19 2006, 11:25 AM Post #38 |
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I love the shockin' humour n' conversations that are had here at The Garden District !!!
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| Julesy | Nov 20 2006, 01:58 AM Post #39 |
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how bout your culo???!!! jk Micheley! |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Nov 20 2006, 02:23 AM Post #40 |
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Jules you are on to something! But I wouldnt want to have anal sex with Jesse, cause he might fantasize that he is fucking Miguel, since he doesnt get to fuck him in real life. |
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