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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 11 2006, 09:08 PM (543 Views) | |
| Jane | Sep 11 2006, 09:08 PM Post #1 |
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Board Bitch!
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The first in a new series of big debates....each being pinned for a week and then moved to Rowan Ruminates. I want you to really explore these subjects, look beyond the obvious, look beyond your first instinct. I am the first to say I'm a hyporcite when it comes to this subject. I eat meat a lot, as long as it doesn't look like it was ever alive I'm ok with it. As long as I don't have to think about the conditions some of these animals are kept in, as long as I don't have to think about them dying horribly (humanely killed via a slit throat? surely that's not a good way to go). The truth for me is if I had to kill my own food in order to eat meat I wouldn't be able to do it. I think most people would be this way. I was recently put off eating pork for about a week because I watched tv footage of farmers in Europe who would cut off the piglets tails with scissors to stop them chewing each other tails off (they only do this because they are kept in cramped conditions), and also castrate the males, all with no anasthetic. If you'd seen the footage of those poor piglets screaming....but again I'm a hypocrite that just has to hope my meat is coming from such sources. So my answer to my own question of should we...is probably no, because as higher creatures we have an understanding of what we are doing, whereas elsewhere in nature animals only have instrincts to follow and the rules of the savage garden are the only rules there are. But I still intend to continue doing so whilever this meat is prepared for me and easily available as it is. |
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| Noname | Sep 11 2006, 10:01 PM Post #2 |
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Glorious Witch
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I'm gonna have to get back you on this one. |
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| Denovissimus | Sep 11 2006, 11:36 PM Post #3 |
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Immortal Heretic
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Good views you got there Jane. I say if we weren't meant to eat meat it wouldn't taste so good. Does shit taste good? No, because we weren't meant to eat it. Same with grass. Or dirt. Ideally, I would like to go meatless, but I know that I cannot. Because in this life I want to experience what it has to offer without trying to be all holistic. In order to learn more about life, I have to learn about its vices as well. Being a meateater is a vice, and one of the rare things I accept about being a human animal. We could treat the animals better. But in the end that killing stroke still has to be made, be it by a knife to the throat or a sledgehammer to the head. |
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| Julesy | Sep 11 2006, 11:39 PM Post #4 |
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deliciously domestic
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How can you not eat meat? Its impossible for the likes of me. I say, if cows were the dominant animals on this planet, we would all be human burgers right now. MOOOOO IS MMMMMMMM! P.S. SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 12 2006, 02:03 AM Post #5 |
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Skittle Skank
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omg I will never forget when I saw Solent Green for the first time. my 12th grade english teacher showed it to us in class. It completely horrified me and the scars of that movie will follow me through the rest of my life and haunt me forever, and rightfully so. Do you ever think it will EVER get to that point on this planet? God, I hope not while I am still alive, or my children. |
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| Denovissimus | Sep 12 2006, 02:06 AM Post #6 |
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Immortal Heretic
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Never watched it, but I know its big movie secret. Michele give your views on the topic of meat eating, and I'm not talking about that black anaconda you crave! |
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| Julesy | Sep 12 2006, 02:29 AM Post #7 |
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I dont think so Michele, the way animals are practically harvested now a days, I doubt it will happen anytime soon. I was just reading AMERICAN GODS (larisa the one your man Zeb posted about) In it some guy has a theory about how the government made Kentucky Fried Chicken change its name to KFC cause they didnt use REAL chicken!
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| Denovissimus | Sep 12 2006, 02:56 AM Post #8 |
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Immortal Heretic
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American Gods by Neil Gaiman? Good book. Got it autographed by him. Asked him why the christian pantheon of gods were not included, he said they just complicated things. |
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| Julesy | Sep 12 2006, 04:06 AM Post #9 |
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No shite? I only got one autographed book, its SATI by Christopher Pike.
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 12 2006, 11:52 AM Post #10 |
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Skittle Skank
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that is actually true, Jules. It is a fact. Jesse, I will give my opinion when I have more time to do so. |
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| Denovissimus | Sep 12 2006, 12:14 PM Post #11 |
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Immortal Heretic
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That is not a fact Michele, its an urban legend. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 12 2006, 01:30 PM Post #12 |
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Skittle Skank
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well I definately believe it! |
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| Denovissimus | Sep 12 2006, 01:33 PM Post #13 |
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Immortal Heretic
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thats some tasty cloned chicken I tell ya |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 12 2006, 02:01 PM Post #14 |
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Skittle Skank
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okay I have about 10 minutes before I have to leave to give my opinion. I agree that if we werent built to eat meat, it wouldnt taste good to us and we wouldnt be able to digest it. But, that does not mean that we HAVE to eat meat. More and more, especially the way that cows and other livestock are raised today, I believe that it has become very unhealty for us to eat meat. Non organic meat are raised in deplorable, inhumane conditions. they never get to roam outside, they are stuck in pens all day with their feces all over them. Cows are not fed grass. The livestock are generally not fed what they were designed to eat, instead they are fed leftover parts of animals already slaughtered. Cows are herbivores! Not carnivores! They are injected with growth hormones and antibiotics. When we eat steak or chicken or whatever, we are also consuming all of the drugs and hormones that they were pumped up with, which is literally posion in our bodies and can lead to the development of degenerative diseases such as cancer, MS, parkinsons, diabetes, etc. And I just read an article recently that the FDA (who is pure evil btw, you cannot trust the FDA to do anything for you except to literally make you ill so that they can make money off of you) has approved for meat to now be sprayed with VIRUSES! Viruses, the purpose being for these viruses to consume the bacteria on the meat? So now we are going to be consuming viruses on a daily basis. I am starting to really comtemplate becoming a vegatarian. But my reasons for becoming a vegatarian are not necessarily for saving the animals, but just to save my own health. To save myself from being ridden with viruses and hormones and antibiotics from non organic meats. I want to switch to eating only organic meat, but it is so hard to find much in the way of organic meats in the area that I live in. But I think I am going to start not eating meat at all from now on when I am eating at the restaurant or out somewhere else. |
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| Julesy | Sep 12 2006, 02:02 PM Post #15 |
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[size=14]Fat Joe says yes to KFC[/size]
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 12 2006, 02:03 PM Post #16 |
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Skittle Skank
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Fat Joe will be dead in a few years |
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| Julesy | Sep 12 2006, 02:05 PM Post #17 |
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i hear ya on not eating all that fake pumped up meat. Its just too hard. Maybe if I fall extremely ill, will I give up and start eating organic meaqts. Its just not practical in my life right now. |
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| Denovissimus | Sep 12 2006, 02:33 PM Post #18 |
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Immortal Heretic
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I love when Michele tells it like it is
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| Noname | Sep 12 2006, 05:22 PM Post #19 |
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Glorious Witch
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We should eat meat. Although I have tried to be a vegetarian I cannot. |
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| MacZeb | Sep 14 2006, 07:07 PM Post #20 |
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OF THE CLAN MACZEB
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I believe humans should eat meat and there really shouldn't be such a controversy over it. We might not run around chucking spears or shooting bows at our prey anymore but it all boils down to is predator eating prey, happens everywhere in the animal kingdom and I'm sure if we interviewed Mr Cow which way he'd prefer to die he'd say "Moooooo". Becoming a vegetarian MIGHT result in the death of less cows or pigs (doubt it, but maybe) but unless you're actually growing your own fruit and veg in your back garden all you're doing is trading those lives for those of field mice or other small rodents or even insects. At the risk of offending The Gardens' resident vegetarians I have to admit I view most as hypocrites at best, it's ok for animal x to die but not animal y and conveniently, plants often don't even enter the equation. Going even further than that, I've yet to meet a vegetarian who'd refuse medical treatment on the basis the techniques or drugs were almost certainly tested on animals. Anyways, that was a bit of a ramble, I'm pro meat-eating. :) |
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