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| Julesy | Aug 8 2006, 04:03 PM Post #1 |
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Was watching a program about early Hominids and how they evolved into humans or whatever. Was watching it with my mum, and she doesnt believe it. She believes in Divine Creation. That God made us in his own image, yada yada. Your thoughts. |
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| Jane | Aug 8 2006, 04:40 PM Post #2 |
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I believe in evolution though not to the extent that some scientists would. Survival of the fittest makes sense, that we die if we don't adapt to suit our environment makes sense, like the slow runners will get eaten so the gene for being able to run fast will prevail. I don't like how evolution can be used to explain every behaviour....like men are pre-programmed to get as many women pregnant as possible hence rape. I don't see how people justify believing in creationism when there is no evidence for it, there is more sense in evolution, a gradual prgression over millions of years. It can be seen in fossils. Though of the course the dinosaurs didn't evolve they got wiped out! I bet Jesse's thoughts will be neither of those 2 options! |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 8 2006, 05:01 PM Post #3 |
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I'm sure most of you know my position on this subject, but I really do love answering it again and again cause it one of my favorites. I believe the answer is both creation and evolution. The hominoids on this earth were evolving naturally, then suddenly and quite unnaturally...Cro-Magnons jumped ahead of their competitors, the Neanderthals. This was because an alien race came here and cross bred themselves either with Cro-Magnons, or the resulting cross breeding created the Cro-Magnons, but the end result was Homo Sapiens, the perfected slave race to these aliens. These are the "gods" who made "us" in "thier" image, as hinted at in the book of Genesis. But I take this theory one step furthur. The aliens used advanced technology to create us, but the conditions which brought forth that technology and its possible application was something already viable and in existance, and the process itself was created by the Grand Creator, what force the true "God" is. Could it have been some divine plan? I don't know, and its something I don't think about because we were (and are, albeit covertly) a slave race, and I cannot fathom a God or a Force which would allow the resulting suffering from that hijacked creation. I think sometimes I take the postion of some Agnostics, which believe in a higher power, but do not believe that higher power has anything directly to do with the affairs of its creation. |
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| Julesy | Aug 8 2006, 05:18 PM Post #4 |
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Ive read up on this theory of an Alien race coming down and bestowing upon prehistoric humans and interbreeding, therefore passing on their superior genes. Thus helping us develop into the beings we are now. The theory is that humans advanced so fast, in such a short amount of time. I agree on some points. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Aug 8 2006, 05:34 PM Post #5 |
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I definately do not believe in divine creation. I dont think I believe in the alien theory either. I am a big believer in evolution, in the entire theory of it. I think we did evolve over time from monkeys. End of story. Now whether there is a god or not, who knows. If there is one, I do not think that a god created us directly. Maybe created the planet but that is about the extent. I also believe that the solar system and universe was most likely created from the big bang and our planet just happened to have the right ingrediants for life to happen. that basically it is all a big accident is what I think is most likely the case. |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 8 2006, 05:55 PM Post #6 |
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You haven't looked into evolution enough then to see the anamolies, that is why it is still a theory. |
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| Julesy | Aug 8 2006, 06:03 PM Post #7 |
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Humans evolved too quickly to it to "just be nature" its Alien Advanced Help. |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 8 2006, 06:22 PM Post #8 |
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| Julesy | Aug 8 2006, 06:29 PM Post #9 |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Aug 8 2006, 06:36 PM Post #10 |
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too quickly? Hundreds of thousands of years is too quick? |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 8 2006, 06:44 PM Post #11 |
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For hundreds of thousands of years there was no relative advancement in terms of the evolving homids, they were a hunter/gathering troupe, primitive in every way with only the basic skills to live and survive. Then within a very very short period of "evolutionary" time, they started to develop sedentary patterns and technologies which made them thrive. They went from Point A to Point C, beyond that even, Point B they skipped and that is referred to as the missing link because advocated of evolution cannot find the solid link between those primitive hunter/gatherers to civililed creatures who began to domesticate animals and weave clothing and plant crops and build shelters. It was not gradual, it was sudden, like a spark was lit to the end of a match and BOOM there is fire and light. |
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| Julesy | Aug 8 2006, 06:45 PM Post #12 |
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yes. Do you know how many centuries it took for them to walk upright, not to mention use tools? Like Jesse, said, then they became actually "aware" or what they were doin. Logic and such. To develop from hunter gathers, to "aware of their actions" and gain and sustain knowledge and pass it on, is too advanced in such a short time, for there not to be some help. |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Aug 8 2006, 06:47 PM Post #13 |
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a few centuries is nothing within a span of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of years. |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 8 2006, 06:54 PM Post #14 |
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You are missing the point woman! |
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| alondria | Aug 8 2006, 07:24 PM Post #15 |
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my theories are actully pretty close to jesses, that the evolutionary jump was too big of a jump, but i think it goes back farther than that, that some planet was dieing so they found earth and started over (see that gary sinese mars movie for something like what i mean) but i think that every so often a species while going along quite nicely takes a sudden jump and to add to what jesse and jules mean, take a look at dinosaurs, they were around for hundreds of millions of years and look where they got, extinct. only a few are left, crodiles for example and sharks. people as they are have been around 2 million tops and look at the speed with which we've become who we are today |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Aug 8 2006, 07:32 PM Post #16 |
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but dinosaurs did not become extinct because of evolutionary flaws, they became extinct from a worldwide natural disastor, most likely an astreriod colliding with earth. |
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| Julesy | Aug 8 2006, 07:37 PM Post #17 |
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BUT Michele, they sustained the same life, no advancement, no nothing. THey just LIVED. Until they died. |
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| alondria | Aug 8 2006, 07:41 PM Post #18 |
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they were dieing anyway, by the time of the ELE that wiped out most of life on earth they were mostly too big to stick around. the smaller ones that survived became birds or the likes of kimono dragons. if you look the only reptiles to properly make it out the other side were crodiles and aligators because they are small compared to their dinosaur cousins and in a way it was evolution, they weren't strong enough to survive so it was bye bye time |
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| Hunter | Aug 9 2006, 12:42 PM Post #19 |
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Loving Life
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Hmmmm I want to watch the show you watched Julesy !!! Woah this alien theory has pretty much blown me away :gosh Ive never really put much thought into this topic but this thread has made me want to read as much as possbile on it. Remember any good sites or books you got the alien theories from Jesse or Julesy ??? Cos Im really interested in readin' about this now :) |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 10 2006, 07:47 PM Post #20 |
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The Earth Chronicles series from Zecharia Sitchin, there are like 5 or 6 books. First three will suffice though. |
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