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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:56 PM Post #41 |
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Jesse - 18.4.06 So in reading The Jesus Papers there is something which stuck out to me. Jesus come from Yeshua, and while some could say it is a variation of Joshua what it really means in Aramaic is "the savior" or "the deliverer", while Christ from the Greek Christos is like "the annointed one", the chosen one. So Jesus Christ as we know the name today really are just titles, not actual names. What was the actual name of this person known as Jesus Christ? |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:57 PM Post #42 |
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Larisa - 18.4.06![]() Billy Bob. Kidding. But they know his last name do they not? Because I coulda sworn that scientists and whatnot have been able to track his possible lineage? |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:58 PM Post #43 |
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Jesse - 18.4.06 No, they don't really know his last name, they only speculate on what it could have been |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:58 PM Post #44 |
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Diggy - 18.4.06 His real name was Emmanuel. - I think... I have to do some research on that one. |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:58 PM Post #45 |
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Jesse - 18.4.06 Where you hear that? |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:59 PM Post #46 |
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Diggy - 18.4.06 In the Catholic Bible, in the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 1 verse 22-23 it makes a reference to one of the Old Prophets: Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 Now all this was done that it might be fulfilled which the Lord spoke by the prophet, saying: 23 Behold a virgin shall be with child, and bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember that the Catholic Version of the Bible there are a lot of things that were taken out when the Protestant movement came about, including the elimination of certain books and verses within books. Being raised a Catholic... well... I figured. Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel. (NASB) Isaiah 7:14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, I have to see if the King James Version has this same passage... |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:59 PM Post #47 |
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Diggy - 18.4.06 Yes it does.... This passage from the old testament was not eliminated but the one from Matthew was eliminated on the King James Version. So it was prohetized that he would be called Jesus but named Immanuel? |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 09:59 PM Post #48 |
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Jesse - 18.4.06 Hmm, I see. Well, the person who became "Jesus Christ" didn't take that "role" till later in life, when he used the prophecies to legitimize his agenda. When it was foresaw that the chosen king would ride into the city on a mule, Jesus made sure that he did just that because it was expected of the messiah. I for one don't believe in the virgin birth in the conventional sense, so Mary named her son Emmanuel in accordance with the scriptures, or even Jesus/Yeshua, is far fetched to me. It was more like later writers of the gospels looked back on the old prophecies and overlayed them fictions over the facts so as to create their christian myth. |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 10:00 PM Post #49 |
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Diggy - 18.4.06 You have a point there. It was written in the scriptures that the Messiah would enter the temple through the Estern gate on a mule, and Jesus did just that. He was most certainly a Jew who probably knew the scriptures by heart and used them to his advantage time and time again. But my question is... Orthodox Jews still believe that the Messiah has not arrived yet. So how will they ever know? There's no temple now to have the Messiah enter through its Eastern Gate on a freaking mule... No other prominent Jew has ever come up in history, they have never claimed a Messiah... So what do they do now? It their King and Messiah was not Jesus, then who? On another note ... Then the message of Jesus Christ was a powerful one. Not only that... Why would anyone pick on the wrath of the all mighty Sanhedrin (sp?)? Why would anyone, even a prophet "put himself in a coallition course with certain death"? Yes, the whole concept of him being conceived and born of a virgin... well... it could be far fetched... but then again, YOU KNOW the all powerful one CAN work miracles. I think that the essence of the whole Jesus story is NOT how he was born, or how he died... it is how he lived, and the message he brought. A message that at the time seemed VERY VERY revolutionary and not only that, it was much needed. He gave hope and relief to the opressed and outcasts of the time... One has to explore the whole sociological/political aspects of the time of Jesus to actually appreciate what he did. Ok, I'm not making any sense at all... All I have to say is that I thought I had it all figured out, and things have been revealing themselves to me in a most extraordinary way... and it is inexplicable. Bottom line, it's all a matter of faith. |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 10:00 PM Post #50 |
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Michele - 18.4.06 Oh I do remember that line in the blble about him being named emmanuel. How about that, I actually remembered something from sunday school! |
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| Jane | Jul 15 2006, 10:01 PM Post #51 |
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Jesse - 24.5.06 So I finished The Jesus Papers. Bottom line, according to the author, is that a document exists which is believed to have been written by Jesus, calling him the Prophet of the Children of Israel or something, to the Sanhedrin, defending himself against their charge against him, about him being the son of god and the messiah, and Jesus tells them basically that we are all the sons of god and such. So he was refuting the charge, in essense denying the claim that he was the literal son of god and thus divine. I don't know if such a document truely exists, but if it did it wouldn't matter I don't think. It couldn't be a smoking gun to undermine Christianity because Christian scholars would immediately label it false, like they always do with view points which counter their own. Their attacks on The DaVinci Code are proof of that, because they fear people would begin to research and realize what crap Christianity, and in particular the Roman Catholic Church, has been since its inception. |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 14 2006, 09:16 PM Post #52 |
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I happened upon this just now and thought I would share, it is in line with my philosophical thoughts, and its the closet to the truth of the nature of the universe I have been able to get to. Hermeticism There is a book mentioned in the article, The Kybalion, which I have read and marveled over. I am in search for a copy of this book myself, but it can be found in its entirety on various websites, one of which I will post when I find it again. |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 14 2006, 09:21 PM Post #53 |
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Okay, The Kybalion can be read here, Kybalion Its like a bible to me. |
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| Rodney | Aug 20 2006, 10:26 AM Post #54 |
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Slightly late but I just skim-read through the whole thing
It was just titles with that man. Is greek name was Iesous and his erm....nickname was Ichtus(Iesous Christos Uios Soter) i don`t think he had a proper last name. Last names were introduced when Napoleon kame along. he probably had loads. Starting out as Jesus the Carpenters` son....or Jesus-the result of Mary getting knocked up" or maybe even Jesus Josephson!...if he was Scandinavian umm whatever. |
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| Denovissimus | Aug 31 2006, 04:14 AM Post #55 |
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I have been waiting 13 years for this! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- from Blabbermouth.net Though he made his reputation with his uncompromising metallic rock and hardcore punk, Glenn Danzig turned heads by debuting at #1 on Billboard's classical chart with 1993's "Black Aria", a darkly beguiling interpretation of the "Paradise Lost" story that blended orchestral, Celtic and other forms to tell the epic tale of Satan's rebellion. On October 17, Danzig will release the eagerly awaited "Black Aria II" (evillive/Megaforce), which takes on another rebel of ancient lore — Lilith, Adam's wife before Eve. Produced, written and — with a couple of exceptions — performed by Glenn, "Black Aria II" employs thundering organ, otherworldly chants, operatic lamentations, poignant strings, ominous percussion, ritualistic chimes and other mysterious sounds to weave its spell. Mesopotamian demon, night goddess, mother of abominations, witch, vampire, Satan's paramour, victim of patriarchy's first big frame-up — Lilith is an elusive but endlessly compelling presence in human mythology. Danzig explores the darkest contours of this tradition on "Black Aria II", conjuring sounds of black masses, monstrous processions and fearful births on such tracks as "Dance of the Succubi", "Bridal Ceremony of the Lilitu", "Unclean Sephira" and "The Succubus Feeds". "The first 'Black Aria' is very Wagnerian, and also has these violent, Scottish-Celtic qualities," Danzig reflects. "This one is more Eastern, because it's about Lilith. It still has a lot of the classic elements I like, but many of the sounds come from elsewhere because of this fascinating story, which has its origins in even older myths and legends." That story — excised from modern Judeo-Christian tellings — involves the chilling, tragic journey of the first woman. "In the earlier stories, Adam and Lilith were both made individually," Danzig relates. "But Lilith was too headstrong — she had her own opinions and thoughts. Though they loved each other, she was cast out and could no longer be the mate of Adam. The Creator — let's say God, though you're talking about different creation stories — took Adam's rib and created Eve so she wouldn't be too independent. That's why so many women's movements have championed the Lilith character. She's free to be sexual, to have her own opinions, and not be condemned." Although Lilith and Adam lament losing each other, Danzig continues, "She goes off, has sex with demons, and becomes a demon herself. Because she can't have children of her own, she goes into a murderous rage and strangles children in their sleep. People actually began making amulets to protect kids from her. In certain parts of Europe, they still make children wear these Lilith medallions so they won't be strangled at night. It's just a great story — you couldn't invent a better one. There's a blurring of black and white, where neither one is what you think. That's something I like to write about. "I just let the story take me," the versatile musician notes. "Each song tells me what it wants. Sometimes I have it all written in my head — every single part. But at other times, I'll be doing the skeleton framework and different parts will come to me. At times, I'll be listening to playback and suddenly I'll hear where another part can go. It tells me what I need to add." The process even demanded an entirely new composition at the last minute. "The night before I was mastering this record, I was in the studio adding another song, 'Unclean Sephira', which is all vocals and no instruments," Danzig says. "Eventually the layers of vocals started sounding like a keyboard." Although "Black Aria II" is marked by a striking, atmospheric minimalism, Danzig reveals that some of the pieces boast as many as 30 or 40 individual music tracks. "Even in rock music, sometimes, you'll have a million tracks. You won't necessarily hear them all, but if you took them out, you'd notice a change." While he admits to a deep fascination with religion in general and with rebellious figures like Lilith and the Satan of "Paradise Lost" in particular, Danzig enjoys the fact that the music of "Black Aria II" can be savored independently of its narrative. "If people want to just listen to the music and not think, I write it on that level," he insists. "But if you want to think about it and learn a little, you can do that too." In addition to his ambitious work as a composer, Danzig is widely acknowledged as an architect of hardcore and metal; over the course of his 25-year career, he has helped to define both the sonics and — as a graphic designer and photographer — the visuals of these forms in his bands the MISFITS and SAMHAIN as a chart-topping solo artist. But he's also widely admired as a songwriter, having penned material for Johnny Cash and Roy Orbison and been covered by METALLICA. In addition to completing this ambitious new disc, Danzig has been creating on multiple fronts as a typically furious pace, penning the script for "Gerouge", a voodoo film set in 1904 New Orleans, as well as screen adaptations of two graphic novels put out by his Verotik publishing house. "First I make myself happy, and I hope that's what will make my fans happy," Danzig muses. "It's what I do — if people like it, fantastic. If not, well, I'm not going to change. To me, music is still an art and a craft, and the business should be secondary. That's how I feel about writing and painting as well. If you can make a living out of it and be successful, that's gravy." |
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| Julesy | Aug 31 2006, 02:43 PM Post #56 |
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that sound pretty cool.
that reminds me of that Lilith Fair concert thing back in the 90s |
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| la anaconda de chocolatee | Sep 1 2006, 08:36 PM Post #57 |
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I think that is who they got the name Lilitih from, Jules |
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| Julesy | Sep 1 2006, 10:09 PM Post #58 |
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hahaha me dumb. I always that that the Lilith Fair was a lesbian concert thing. |
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| Denovissimus | Dec 21 2006, 07:10 PM Post #59 |
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An interesting email I got, reminding me of some research I need to do regarding the Cathers, and some other books I need to search for. Its from a an email list I signed up to long ago, but lost access to the forum where the posts originate. There are some interesting tidbits of thought in this, and as luck would have it I'm free tonight to hopefully catch the repeat of this Secret Lives of Jesus program. _________________________________________________________________ Secret Lives of Jesus, series Explorer This documentary will run again on the National Geographic Channel on Thursday December 21st at 9 PM E.S.T (US time) But the other documentaries that started to be broadcasted by that channel this week are also to be watched such as those on Maria Magdalena, the Gospel of Judas, and so forth. They are surprisingly excellent, reveal many true facts and rehabilitate, among others, Maria Magdalena and the first Christians known as Gnostics. This is a quite similar process as for those of you who took the time to watch TV for one week during that (in)famous September a few years back. You would pick in each program some important pieces of a puzzle that put together would give you a clear picture of the, say alternate reality, or the real reality so to speak. With those programs on NGC, you got a clear vision of the real Christianity, the one that was destroyed and killed by the official Christian (Luciferian) Church. But that Christianity remains as an alternate reality, and the idea is, that you never know, first in which reality you are, and second which one is the real one, they run simultaneously so to speak. I will come back on this very soon. Following some questions on our lists of “what really happened ,”, there are two schools of thought in the spiritual circles : * one is the Essenes, among key figures are the writers Anne and Daniel Meurois-Givaudan who were at the time of Jesus among one group of Essenes disciples, Esu was training so to speak several groups at the same time : the official Apostles, which are the less important one, the exoteric ways which was deviated on top of it. He had a group of 12 Woman Apostles, see the book by my friend colleague speaker Virgil Armstrong, book called “The Twelve Women Apostles”. There was also one group of star people in training, and the other groups, including the Essenes one were jealous of that group because Esu was having with them almost daily physical contacts with spaceships and the space brothers of our Fleet. The way of the Essenes is to say that Esu was put on the cross but did no die on it. Any of you willing to do a little research of the crucifixion procedures of the Romans will discover quickly that it is impossible that Esu died on that thing in 6 hours. That horrible method of execution was meant for the crucified (Romans crucified this way men AND women by the hundreds of thousand) to take about one week to die on the cross thru inimaginable permanent suffering, this for the women included who lasted as long as the men. Ask any doctor, it is impossible to die in 6 hours, unless being an old man with cardiac problems, and Esu was a very fit and strong man. Joseph of Arimathea, being in hand with the Essenes did probably bought the Romans to have a simulation of execution : the soldiers did not put the sedile in order to give less pain as possible. The sedile was a small piece of pointed sharp wood that was put under the scrotum in order to avoid suffocation, to rest on it so to speak (!) and permit the crucified to stay alive in torment for one entire week. One can imagine what the sedile was doing on the women private parts. Since they did not put it for Esu, it was necessary then to perform the medical procedure known today as pneumo-thorax, that is make a small hole to the lungs to give air to breathe, this was done with the famous story of the (un)holy lance. Furthermore Esu was given a special potion to drink that first would numb the senses and then simulate a kind of coma, and fake death. Romans did not want to kill Esu, certainly not Pilate who had visited the family in Nazareth (saying in his reports by the way that they were all blond hair in that family, giving credit to the claim of Native Americans that Esu was/is a Venusian). Never the Romans would allow nobody to remove a crucified from the cross at least for one week and often more. That Esu was put down after 6 hours is proof enough of the deal made with the Romans. Story goes that Esu was healed of the wounds caused by the nails hidden inside the Essenes brotherhood network. You can find the whole story in the book of the Meurois-Givaudan, see below, telling also the story of the son of Esu and Maria-Magdalena and the divine bloodline started in the South of France. The Way of the Essenes: Christ's Hidden Life Remembered (Paperback) by Anne Meurois-Givaudan, Daniel Meurois-Givaudan Read also my article “The Castle of the Grail” in this page : http://groups.msn.com/InTouchGalacticFeder...ofthegrail.msnw · another school of thought is that Esu was even never put on the cross. Indeed there were in fact several rabbi (spiritual teachers) at the same time with the very same common name of Jeshua. The Christian Church may have taken an account about one of those, make a mix of several stories and made up the whole story of supposed death “to clean our sins with blood” (any religion using blood as a basis is actually demonic and reptilian). At any rate, in both cases, Esu did not die on the cross and lived on till a very old age, and this piece fits the puzzle to link the story told by Native Americans of his visit to them in the first century, making the”savage Indians” much more real Christians than the followers of the (Luciferian) Christian Church. See this book : He Walked the Americas (Hardcover) by L. Taylor Hansen More info : FYI, another very good source of information on this topic is the book "Bloodline of the Holy Grail - The Hidden Lineage of Jesus Revealed" by Sir Laurence Gardner. From the back cover: "From royal and suppressed archives comes documented proof of the heritage of Jesus in the West and the long awaited discovery of the Holy Grail....... This unique work offers revelatory insight concerning the descendant heirs of Jesus and his brother James while, in documenting a hidden legacy of the Messiah, it unveils hitherto guarded facts about characters such as Mary Magdalene and Jospeh of Arimathea. Tracing the sacred lineage through centuries of persecution and Inquisition, 'Bloodline of the Holy Grail' reveals a suppression of authentic records and a strategic manipulation of the New Testament Gospels......" Continued : watching these programs of NGC at this time of revelation (true meaning of the word « Apocalypse » meaning all will be revealed.) is very important because you can discover all by yourself the existence of an alternate reality of a real line of the plan of Esu/Isa/Orthon (called Sananda in the US), spiritual governor of the local universe, and spiritual overseer of the Golden Light Program of our Fleet. We Lightworkers are very similar to the Gnostics, presented now in these program as true Christians. The Cathars were Gnostics too, and star people of course. This is maybe the major jump in consciousness to make at this time, this aspect of a true alternate reality, which is simultaneous to this one, and where we, star people and starseeds are ALSO in simultaneous existence. Again I will come back on this major aspect, into the limits of confidentiality, this part of the plan of Esu/Orthon should not be revealed nor spoken publically by his groups of special volunteers. Back to the new documentaries on NGC, it is evident that Maria Magdalena was the most important disciple, representing and playing the part of the “Mother”, which is the old religion existing before Christianity; God in that religion being certainly not a revengeful male with a beard on a shining throne on puffy clouds, but a feminine Divinity, much like it is for many Native American tribes by the way. About the Old Religion watch the excellent mini series of the Sci-Fi channel : The Mists of Avalon ~ Anjelica Huston, Julianna Margulies, Joan Allen, and Samantha Mathis (VHS Tape - 2001) In the NGC documentary “The Gospel of Judas” you will even be stunned to see Esu showing to Judas the Blue Star in the sky ! The four “official” gospels are the less important ones and the less credible, and were written in 60 A.D., by some copyists of the Roman Church. The Gospel of Philippe, the Gospel of Mary (Magdalena) and the Gospel of Judas among many others are more credible since written for the most part by Gnostic Christians. All those were condemned as heretics, of course, by the Luciferian Church. |
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| Denovissimus | Jan 9 2007, 04:34 PM Post #60 |
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PART TWO: Behind The Veil In Washington DC -- The Rise Of Angelic Rule Added: Jan 9th, 2007 7:06 AM Part Two Demonology 101: When Governments Invite Dark Dominion Years ago I remember watching when for the first time in history Catholic authorities allowed network television to broadcast an exorcism. Permission was given to ABC’s "20/20" to cover the event, and on April 5, 1991 the ritual was televised. The extraordinary moment was a first for network programming, yet something about the show caused my thoughts to wander. In the past I had been involved with cases of exorcism (on two published accounts I and others actually witnessed ‘existence manifestations’ outside our understanding of physics), but now I questioned if perhaps we were missing something bigger—a comparison between what leads to individual demonic possession and a wider cultural phenomenon known in fashionable theology as "geographical demonic strongholds." I soon began to question that if personal behavior was one route to opening doors to diabolical invasion on an individual level, might nations similarly come under siege to a larger "hive" of nefarious power through collective behavioral or gestured invitation to evil by those having geopolitical authority? Most adults are aware that if people who preside over legislative bodies sense public apathy, they may abandon their responsibility to govern for the good of the people and in worse case scenarios begin using their positions in power for their own elitist or even occultist aspirations. If this is allowed to continue via the public and/or lawmakers turning a blind eye, the result can be, according to demonology and select case studies, the regional increase of evil supernaturalism. To some believers, the origins of this phenomenon began in the distant past when "a fire in the minds" of angels caused Lucifer to exalt himself above the good of God’s Creation. The once glorified spirit was driven by an unequivocal thirst to rule, conquer, and dominate. His fall spawned similar lust among his followers, which continues today among human agents of dark power who guard a privileged "cause and effect" relationship between invasion of supernaturalism and the opportunity for lordship over societies. The objectives of the occult masters and the very real forces they serve is overlooked by average citizens, yet according to sacred texts a collaboration exists between such unregenerate social architects and fallen angels. If the electorate becomes bewitched of this truth, humans in league with demons can increase their control of the machine of municipal government through sophisticated networks of both visible and invisible principalities. This happens subconsciously or intentionally among those vulnerable to the sinister dark plan. Multitudes may never comprehend this fact, and that is why some cannot see beyond "flesh and blood" or hold as real the hungry ambitions of "principalities… powers… rulers of darkness… and spiritual wickedness in high places" (Eph. 6:12). Nevertheless in my opinion a complete evaluation of recent American history must take into account not only the visible agents of government, but the significant interaction between spiritual and human personalities. Among the great religions, there is the belief that three sources of spiritual power can affect nations: 1) divine influence, proceeding forth from the domain of God; 2) satanic influence, coming from the sphere of Satan; and 3) human influence. This third influence, being neutral, is available as a conduit for good or evil as it submits to divine or satanic control. Throughout history, there have been governments and leaders that resisted evil and adhered to the statutes of God. These spoiled the strategies of corrupt minions, both visible and invisible, and made possible the blessing of those nations. Conversely, there have been times in history when bureaucracy turned its back on higher law, opening the door for "evil angels" (Ps. 78:49) to pervade the direction of society. These were times when darkness and Machiavellian trickery took root in the mindset of the majority, and systems of government and philosophy were influenced by fiendish unseen counterparts. To the ancient city of Corinth, a city known for its pride, ostentation, and lasciviousness (which not only was tolerated, but consecrated through the worship of Venus), Paul said to the Church, "the god of this world [Satan] hath blinded the minds of them which believe not…" (2 Cor. 4:4). Supernaturalism ruling from the air above Corinth blinded the minds of Corinthians until the latter were incapable of perceiving their moral and social decay. It’s interesting that the Apostle would send this warning to the city of Corinth—a Greek prototype of America’s wealth, military strength, and great mental activity (1). Outwardly, one would have thought these educated Gnostics were well equipped intellectually to understand the spiritual ramifications and social significance of their actions. Yet, Paul said their minds had been blinded by the god of this world. Their superior human knowledge, though impressive to intelligentsia, had not protected the Corinthians from the subtle influences filling the atmosphere around them. It is within this unseen arena of malevolent rulers that some men are organized. Under dark influence, they become orchestrated within a great evil system (or empire) described in various passages as a satanic order. In more than thirty important biblical texts, the Greek New Testament employs the term kosmos, which describes an invisible order or "government behind government." It is here that human ego—separated from God—becomes hostile to the service of others while viewing mankind as a personal commodity. From kosmos, the "old ones" master the air in and around willing men’s minds. The deceiving spirits, called "archons" and "kosmokrators" in the Book of Ephesus, are rulers of darkness who work in and through their human political counterparts, commanding spirits of lesser rank until every level of earthly government can be touched by their influence. According to the Bible, it is this dominion that is at odds with the communities of the world. With vivid testimony to this, Satan offered to Jesus all the power and glory of the governments of this world. Satan said, "All this power [control] will I give thee, and the glory of them [earthly cities]: for that is delivered unto me: and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine" (Luke 4:6-7). Jesus declined this dominionist offer from the "prince of the powers of the air." Sadly, others have not. Therefore this is a picture of a world system average people never comprehend. If most of humanity could see through the veil into the invisible world that inhabits this planet, they would find a world alive with good against evil. It is a place where the prize is the souls of men, and where legions war for control of its cities and people. The end game for the darkest of these powers—together with their human counterparts—is to stand in the place of God, incarnated and ruling the nations with an iron fist. The connection between such occult elite and the Luciferian ambitions can be viewed in the history of secret societies. Albert Pike, a leading Freemason and genius who lived during the 19th Century is famous for his Masonic handbook, "Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Rite of Freemasonry." Pike was a 33rd degree Mason, head of the Ancient Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, and Grand Master of the Order of the Palladium (Sovereign Council of Wisdom). On page 321 of Morals and Dogma, Pike speaks of the value of Lucifer to the goals of the order: "Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" Masons publicly distance themselves from this Luciferian connection, arguing that Pike was referring to the plant Venus, and not Satan. They say that because Venus is seen on the horizon before Dawn, it is cast as the herald of light and allegorically the bringer of knowledge (gnosis) for Freemasons. Yet Venus is named after the Roman goddess of love—a "she" and not the "he" from Pike’s writing. Furthermore, Pike certified his thoughts concerning this "he" earlier in Morals and Dogma, saying, "The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god," [page 102]. Thus if Satan is not "a black god" and "Lucifer" is "he who bears the light," Pike is clearly referring to the personage identified in the Bible as the fallen angel who ultimately became the Creator’s nemesis. In 1954, William Guy Carr, a distinguished Canadian naval officer claimed that a conspiracy for world domination had been spelled out in a private letter from Pike to the director of the Illuminati, Giuseppe Mazzini. The letter detailed three world wars that would be machinated by the global occult elite, leading to the demise of Christianity and to the rise of Luciferianism. In the introduction to his book, "Pawns in the Game," Carr wrote: "World War Three is to be fomented by using the differences the agentur of the Illuminati stir up between the Political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The war is to be directed in such a manner that Islam (the Arab World including Mohammedanism) and Political Zionism (including the State of Israel) will destroy themselves while at the same time the remaining nations, once more divided against each other on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion physically, mentally, spiritually and economically. Can any unbiased and reasoning person deny that the intrigue now going on in the Near, Middle, and Far East is designed to accomplish this devilish purpose? "On August 15, 1871, Pike told Mazzini that after World War Three is ended, those who aspire to undisputed world domination will provoke the greatest social cataclysm the world has ever known. We quote his written words (taken from the letter catalogued in the British Museum Library, London, Eng.): "‘We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time’" (3). It is held that Carr learned about the alleged Pike letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, author of "The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled." Those who hold the documents of Carr as authentic claim that Pike, Giuseppe and other founders of the occult orders developed the grand scheme to establish a One World Order from information given to them by "spirit guides." The three machinated world wars would ultimately destroy man’s faith in God and establish the earthly throne of Lucifer. While the authorship of the Pike letter remains disputed, the passages from Carr have been in circulation for over 50 years and in this sense is prophetic in its vision of a third world war scenario when compared to global events initiated in Washington, D.C. this decade involving the Middle East and the so-called war on terror. Recent examples of coded language from high ranking members of Congress and the U.S. President also add to the imprint and suspicion of a global master plan spelled out in the Pike letter. We have noted before some instances of presidential language that seemed designed to convey secret messages to select members of his audience. Yet the practice of the "double coding" word craft as a strategy for secretly appealing to particular people is not limited to George Bush. When Rep. Nancy Pelosi on January 4, 2007 assumed her roll as speaker of the House at the opening of the 110th Congress, she stated that the founding fathers were so confident in "the America they were advancing, they put on the seal, the great seal of the United States, ‘novus ordo seclorum’—a new order for the centuries." The new speaker did not go into detail as to why the phrase "Novus Ordo Seclorum" was considered important dialectic during this momentous changeover of the control of congress. Nor did she dare to add why "Novus Ordo Seclorum" exists beneath the unfinished pyramid and the All Seeing Eye (or Eye of Horus) in the Great Seal of the United States. Her reference may have been a simple coincidence, but the origins of the motto "Novus Ordo Seclorum" and the use of it in this historic speech was interesting when cast against recent world events. The term "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (A New Order of the Ages) was adapted by Charles Thomson in 1782 when designing the Great Seal of the United States. According to the official record, Thomson created the phrase from inspiration he found in a line in Virgil’s Eclogue IV: "Magnus ab integro seclorum nascitur ordo" [Virgil's Eclogue IV (line 5)], the interpretation of the original Latin being, "and the majestic roll of circling centuries begins anew." Ironically, Christians since the middle ages have held that the Cumaean Sibyl of Virgil’s Ecologue IV prophesied the birth of Jesus Christ and that it was this arrival of the Savior that gave rise to "the majestic roll of circling centuries begins anew," or New Order of the Ages. Virgil himself was believed to be a prophet in this regard, and that is why Dante Alighieri selected him as his guide through the underworld in The Divine Comedy. The Cumaean Sibyl is also prominently featured alongside the Old Testament prophets in Michelangelo’s paintings in the Sistine Chapel. Some say this fact played a role in Thomson’s "inspiration" for "Novus Ordo Seclorum" taken from Virgil’s Ecologue IV. Yet upon reading Virgil’s text, the divine son that comes of the Sibyl’s prophecy is a savior unknown to Biblical theology. "He" is to be spawned of "a new breed of men sent down from heaven" who receive "the life of gods, and see Heroes with gods commingling." According to the Sibyl’s prediction, this "messiah" would be the son of Jupiter and come when the Roman god Saturn returned to reign over the earth in a new golden age (the Novus Ordo Seclorum), when Apollo rises again through mystical "life" power given to him from the gods. From the beginning of the poem we read (4): "Now the last age by Cumae's Sibyl sung Has come and gone, and the majestic roll Of circling centuries begins anew: Justice returns, returns old Saturn's reign, With a new breed of men sent down from heaven. Only do thou, at the boy's birth in whom The iron shall cease, the golden race arise, Befriend him, chaste Lucina; 'tis thine own Apollo reigns. … "He shall receive the life of gods, and see Heroes with gods commingling, and himself Be seen of them, and with his father's worth Reign o'er a world… "Assume thy greatness, for the time draws nigh, Dear child of gods, great progeny of Jove! See how it totters- the world's orbed might, Earth, and wide ocean, and the vault profound, All, see, enraptured of the coming time! Ah! might such length of days to me be given, And breath suffice me to rehearse thy deeds, Nor Thracian Orpheus should out-sing me then, Nor Linus, though his mother this, and that His sire should aid- Orpheus Calliope, And Linus fair Apollo. Nay, though Pan, With Arcady for judge, my claim contest, With Arcady for judge great Pan himself Should own him foiled, and from the field retire. Begin to greet thy mother with a smile, O baby-boy! ten months of weariness For thee she bore: O baby-boy, begin! For him, on whom his parents have not smiled, Gods deem not worthy of their board or bed." According to the Sibyl, the New Order of the Ages occurs when a special "son" is born on earth, a new messiah who comes of "a new breed of men sent down from heaven" when "heroes" and "gods" are blended together. This sounds eerily similar to what the Watchers did during the creation of Nephilim, to what scientists are doing this century through the creation of transgenic human-animal chimeras, and to what the Bible actually describes as the Antichrist being the "son" of perdition" (2 Th 2:3, Apoleia, from which we make Apollyon, the demon destroyer). Note the similarity of the names Apollo and Apollyon. Has the Novus Ordo Seclorum prophecy of a reincarnated pagan god leading to a New World Order been fulfilled? Is this a prognostication of a future time? What about recent references by congressmen and President’s to government via supernatural influence? Are these things connected? Biblical demonologists believe in the near future a man of superior intelligence, wit, charm, and diplomacy will emerge on the world scene as a savior. He will seemingly possess a transcendent wisdom that enables him to solve problems and offer solutions to many of today’s most perplexing issues. His popularity will be widespread, and his fans will include young and old, religious and non-religious, male and female. Talk show hosts will interview his colleagues, news anchors will cover his movements, scholars will applaud his uncanny ability at resolving what has escaped the rest of us, and the poor will bow down at his table. He will, in all human respects, appeal to the best idea of society. But his profound comprehension and irresistible presence will be the result of an invisible network of thousands of years of collective knowledge. He will represent the embodiment of a very old super-intellegent spirit. As Jesus Christ was the "seed of the woman" (Gen. 3:15), he will be the "seed of the serpent." Though his arrival in the form of a man was foretold by numerous Scriptures, the broad masses will not recognize him for what he is: paganism’s ultimate incarnation—the "beast" of Revelation 13:1. It’s been assumed for centuries that prerequisite for the coming of Antichrist will be a "revived" world order—an umbrella under which national boundaries dissolve, and ethnic groups, ideologies, religions, and economics from around the world, orchestrate a single and dominant sovereignty. At the head of the utopian administration, a single personality will surface. He will appear to be a man of distinguished character, but will ultimately become "a king of fierce countenance" (Dan. 8:23). With imperious decree he will facilitate a one-world government, a universal religion, and global socialism. Those who refuse his New World Order will inevitably be imprisoned or destroyed until at last he exalts himself "above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he, as God, sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God" (2 Thess. 2:4). For many years the idea of such an Orwellian society where one-world government oversees the smallest details of our lives and where human liberties are abandoned was considered anathema. The concept that rugged individualism could be sacrificed for an anesthetized universal harmony was repudiated by America’s greatest minds. Then, in the 1970’s, things began to change. Following a call by Nelson Rockefeller for the creation of a "new world order," (5) presidential candidate Jimmy Carter campaigned, saying, "We must replace balance of power politics with world order politics." (6) Evidently he struck a chord with world leaders. During the first war in Iraq, President George Herbert Walker Bush continued the one-world dirge by announcing over national television that, "a New World Order" had arrived. Following the initial broadcast, President Bush addressed the Congress and made the additional comment: "What is at stake is more than one small country [Kuwait], it is a big idea—a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind: peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law. Such is a world worthy of our struggle, and worthy of our children’s future!" (7) Ever since the President’s astonishing newscast, a parade of political and religious leaders have discharged a profusion of coded language aimed at implementing the goals of the New World Order. Concurrent with the political aspects of the New World Order is the syncretistic and spiritual goals of occult society. The blending of politics and spirituality harmonizes perfectly with the ideas of an end-time marriage of governmental policy and religious creed as was prophesied in the Bible. To that end the tools necessary for paganism’s ultimate incarnation—the god-king of the Great Tribulation (Satan in flesh)—are in place. The worship of the "gods" has been popularized through modern mysticism. The dominionist agenda of governing by "divine representation" through theocratic-pacifism is being constructed. Biotechnology has given rise to transhumanist values seeking to redesign what it means to be human, and the earth’s masses stand at the brink of a decisive moment in time. At the core of the emerging conspiracy a leader of indescribable brutality is scheduled to appear. He will make the combined depravities of Antiochus Epiphenes, Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Khan, all of whom were types of the Antichrist, look like child’s play. He will raise his fist, "speaking great things.... in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven" (Rev. 13:5-6). He will cause that as many as will not worship his image to be killed" (Rev. 13:15), and he will implement a series of policies that systematically degrade God-given civil liberties until "he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (Rev. 13:16-17). The symbols and rituals of the occult masters—the Masons, Illumninatists, Bilderbergers and Bohemians—combine to harmonize so completely with recent U.S. administration dialectics and policy changes as to be mathematically improbable of chance. They point, as does the Sibyl’s conjure, to a future time when the occultist’s meaning of the Angel in the Whirlwind, the rise of Imperial Luciferianism, and a "new breed of human" are made plain. 1. Albert Barnes, Barnes Notes on the New Testament (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Book House, 1979), Corinthians, Introduction, IV, v. 2. God’s Rule by Means of the Angels, by Lambert Dolphin, Physicist, http://www.ldolphin.org 3. William Guy Carr, Pawns in the Game, Tab Books; Reprint edition (June 1970) , pp. xv-xvi 4. Translation by John Dryden, as published by Georgetown University, http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/irvinem/...xts/eclog4.html 5. Thomas Horn and Donald Jones, PhD, The Gods Who Walk Among Us, (Lafayette, Louisiana: Huntington House Publishers, 1999), 167. 6. Ibid 7. Ibid |
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