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Doujinshi Chronicles SIGNUPS; An Anime- and Manga-based RP
Topic Started: Jul 11 2006, 08:59 PM (6,682 Views)
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I understand what you're trying to say.

You don't want to be forced to RP; you don't want to have to keep up with everything and keep things alive. Well, no worries. If you want to join in, then join in, if not, then don't.

My only concern is keeping the story moving while we don't have BR to finish the Al the Hollow thing. but I have LOTS of plans.
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Oct 7 2006, 01:15 AM
I understand what you're trying to say.

You don't want to be forced to RP; you don't want to have to keep up with everything and keep things alive. Well, no worries. If you want to join in, then join in, if not, then don't.

My only concern is keeping the story moving while we don't have BR to finish the Al the Hollow thing. but I have LOTS of plans.

Kind-of harsh sounding compared to my exact inexact thoughts, but for the most part, yeah. I can keep up with everything (and have, even during most of the break I took), but the pressure to post something to keep a storyline going (due to no-one else being able to do so) really takes a toll on me when I'm not inspired (I.E.: Posting for the sake of posting, without inspiration, to just continue a story along), and I can't do it all that much. This is something I figured out back in SW2 during the end of that Flying Battery arc I came up with back then.

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Upon taking a shower (as the old holiday inn express commercial says, you really do think better in the shower... I wonder what I'd think of IN a Holiday Inn Express shower :LOL: ), I've finally figured out what I really mean and am really thinking. Overall, "freedom" is the key word for what I'm trying to do. And as for "forced to RP", it's actually that I don't really want to be involved with the creation/making/molding of the big overall storyline, I just want to play my part in the scheme of things, with whatever piece of the puzzle ("piece of the puzzle" reffering to character) works best for me for the situation, with possible lesser progressive storylines forming out of it. In a gaming sense, I don't really want to be the producer of the video game, but I want to be the player of the video game.
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The best I can say about my general thoughts is, "It's complicated."

And also, I hope you aren't unhappy with me, because I can't really get a good read on those first two paragraphs, on if you are unhappily saying that, or not. If you are unhappy, I'm sorry, and if you aren't unhappy, then I'm still sorry that I can't be completely relied on for RPs that I'm in.

And there are 2 straight DP posts of lots-of-words about what I'm thinking, that really don't have any importence to anything at all. XD
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I'm unhappy that I had to return Metoird Prime today, because I only had a chance to play it once. >_>

But I'm not unhappy with you. :p

Trust me, I know it's hard molding massive plots and being the person depended on to keep the RP alive. ... Seriously, I'm REALLY aware of the pressure of doing that. X_x

Buuuut... I like it. Yeah, if the RP dies, everybody will blame me, but I get to be creative and I like that. :3

Although! I do have a long storyline planned that revolves around the Final Fantasy world. Why? Well, I've always wanted to do a Final Fantasy RP, but never done one. At all. On any site. x_X So I'm gonna use all my ideas here in this beautiful crossover world. :3

Plus I have Naruto plans. :3 Orochimaru and Itachi, you know. Although everytime I come up with a good Naruto plan, I usually put it in the TNT plans instead of this one. BUT! That's okay. The Naruto storyline won't start here for a while. Since we have a whole RP dedicated to Naruto. Yeah.

Right now, it's the Trigon Arc. Any and all involvement from Shinigami would be awesome. Since you're back in it, Zuko and Ty Lee will save teh Shinigami in my next post. :3


UNLESS anyone else has a plan, or unless BR posts between now and the end of the Trigon arc saying college is let up and he's able to RP again, the next arc will be the Final Fantasy one.

I doubt, what with TNT being more active than this, that we'll get much further than that before BR can return and do the Bleach Arc. But if we have to continue to stall, I can do another one.


IF anyone else has plans, I encourage you to USE THEM. The Trigon Arc will end soon, and after that, it's wide open if you'd like to produce a massive plan! :D If not... meh, I'll keep doing it. :3 No worries.

Back on subject; No DP, I'm not unhappy with you. :3

I'm sleepy, it's 3:31AM, and I have to clean my room still. So tomorrow I'll post in DC. Promise.
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DP! Glad you're back!

As for storylines...Well, oddly enough, I'll probably be PMing both GS and DP here shortly for some information on things.

I'm still working on a Heartless/Nobody/Hollow thing, how they're related or something...I should go read some Bleach manga...>.<

So...Definately have a plan for today!
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Heartless = the missing hearts

Hollow = spirit that lost its heart

Nobody = specific form of hollow, definition-wise, kind-of like being between becoming an Arrancar and being a normal Menos hollow (they don't have shinigami powers, but do have masks removed). And basically, they could have whatever properties they have in KH, this way. Quoting you from when you answered my questions about them back during SW2:

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When someone sumcombs to the darkness in their heart, or loses their heart some other way, a Heartless is created, a dark heart basically.

Now, what happens to the person's body, memories, spirit, etc? These beings are called Nobodies, and have much more skill and knowledge then Heartless, who are basically acting on instinct, and will listen to anyone who has enough power.

Those who have exceptionally strong spirits and/or bodies can keep a humanoid shape, a lot like their old body, but some differences. Organization XIII is made of Nobodies who kept their bodies.


So in the cases that create Heartless, Nobodies can get formed. But only cases involving Heartless formation, will Nobody creation be possible.

That's my current take. Any questions??

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Also, I was just wondering, for those who are interested in Bleach, how far are you all into the series??
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Hurm…

Kingdom Hearts games makes a whole person as part of three parts, The Spirit, The Body, and The Heart. So...

Heartless- Just the heart that fell into darkness.

Hollows- A spirit and heart that wouldn’t move on, and then lost it’s heart.

Nobody- A body and spirit that is created when an especially strong person is turned into a Heartless.

This would be how they’re created…correct? I know that’s how Heartless and Nobodies are created.

Considering what you said DP, would that mean a Heartless would be created when a Hollow is created as well?

Man…I really need to read the Bleach Manga…this has a crossover story written all over it…

And as for reading it…I went to the thread to download it…and when I clicked on the links, it said it was to old or something similar, so I was unable to download it…

I really should have started reading them earlier…>.<
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Oct 7 2006, 08:17 PM
Hurm…

Kingdom Hearts games makes a whole person as part of three parts, The Spirit, The Body, and The Heart. So...


I stopped reading Bleach when I decided not to pick one of the original characters I wanted in this RP back when we were discussing it in RMC.

The Spirit, The Body and The Heart... Hmm... If you two start up a plan using this, count me in, I can do some fun FMA stuff with this. In the manga, Hoenheim was split into two people when he passed through the gate, because it seperates the body and the spirit. So this could be included in there also.
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Considering what you said DP, would that mean a Heartless would be created when a Hollow is created as well?


A hollow is created when the heart (connected to that chain of something) is dissolved. Heartless wouldn't come from Hollow creation, but from Nobody creation.

Generally, to the most of my knowledge, (other than by the way they are created, and their basic definition of "what" they are) Hollows = Heartless, with Heartless being more tangible than Hollows (tangible meaning: able to be seen and interacted with by generally normal {in comparison to shinigami} people). So, when hollows are formed, only hollows are formed. When heartless are formed, whatever KH has happening is what happens. If you want, when heartless are created, you can have normal hollows be formed if Nobodies are not formed by the process of the heartless creation. But not vice-versa (Hollows don't make Heartless, hollows just make hollows)

I think, this keeps everything seperate enough where Bleach-related stuff can remain independant from KH-related stuff in terms of conflicting descriptions (and also, so those who don't know much about the other don't have to worry about it much, like me), while also keeping them close enough where their similarities to each-other can be put in play if desired, and also to keep them in the same universe.

It may sound complicated, but in reality, I don't think it is, because it isn't changing anything for either universe (unless you want the lesser non-human-looking Nobodies instead becoming normal hollows, from having heartless created out of them).

And and, am I the only person who can't understand why something called "Heartless" would actually be a "heart"?

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As for the manga, I'll work on getting new volume-links up (though you should try signing up for Bleach7.com for chapter downloads. They don't have many of the middle chapters up there {chapters 73-150 aren't there}, but their servers are really quick and efficient, unlike most of the other sites you can find the manga at)

And also, to others reading, don't forget to answer that question about:
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Also, I was just wondering, for those who are interested in Bleach, how far are you into the series??


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So the Hearts are dissolved then? Hmm...

I don't think Nobodies could be considered a type of Hollow. Hollow's are just the Spirit it seems, while Nobodies also retain their Body.

And yes DP, I didn't know Heartless were actually Hearts until I read the Ansem Notes in KH I.

Which reminds me...I should go find those notes from one and two and post them for references...Away to see if they're on Wiki!

And DP...The first 72 chapters are great for now! Going to download those too!
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I read the chapter where Chad is introduced. That's it.

That's as far as I made it.

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Ansem Reports have been posted in the Video Game Zone. You can go there manually or check out this handy dandy link.

Warning...All of them together consist of a bit of a read.
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Oct 7 2006, 10:29 PM
So the Hearts are dissolved then? Hmm...

I don't think Nobodies could be considered a type of Hollow. Hollow's are just the Spirit it seems, while Nobodies also retain their Body.

And yes DP, I didn't know Heartless were actually Hearts until I read the Ansem Notes in KH I.

Which reminds me...I should go find those notes from one and two and post them for references...Away to see if they're on Wiki!

And DP...The first 72 chapters are great for now! Going to download those too!

OK! So for more confusion, transcribing everything into KH-universe terms:

Hollow = spirit

Heartless = heart

Nobody = spirit, body

Plus/Whole/ghost* = spirit, heart

Living Person = spirit, heart, body

Corpse = body

[size0]((*Pluses/Wholes are basically the bleach name for ghosts/spirits of those who've died, and haven't descended into being hollows. knowing this is completely unimportant for anything, except in making this list complete with all the combinations of spirit, body, and heart))

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In terms of the RP, Soul Society will classify Nobodies as being like a seperate form of Hollow, but has kept it's body, and has formed a Heartless.

[size0](And GS, you really should watch more Bleach on youtube!!)

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You know that site I posted before for the manga (Bleach7)? I just looked, and their image gallery contains (I believe) all the chapters that aren't available for download, as well as everything else (which would be very good for GS and his inability to download things!). I'm not sure if you have to sign up first to view it, or not (I'm always signed in there), so you may have to sign up first, but it is free to do anyway (all that's needed is an E-Mail account).
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I like that last one DP. Very funny.

Though I wonder...What happens to the Body and Heart when just the Soul leaves? Or would the body just die, or continue on? Hmmm...Nah, to complicated already.
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Oct 7 2006, 11:16 PM
Though I wonder...What happens to the Body and Heart when just the Soul leaves? Or would the body just die, or continue on? Hmmm...Nah, to complicated already.

You know, that might just end up being involved with the storyline of the next KIngdom Hearts game!

But yeah, my head is spinning already, so no more!! Please!! :LOL:
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HUMONCULI!!!

I got it! A Body with a Heart, but no Spirit! Maybe they're Humonculi!

Humonculi can feel emotions, but have no memories, while Nobodies have no actual emotions but have memories!

Spirit - Memories
Heart - Emotions

Huh? Think that's good?
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