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Brodie Helmet ID?
Topic Started: Mar 27 2010, 12:00 AM (3,287 Views)
Mariner109
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My buddy has a Brodie Helmet which he might be offering for sale. Was wondering if anyone could give some more info on it. He said it has a separate rim and a serial number of ZA57. I'm putting in a picture. It's the bottom left helmet in the photo (sorry this is the only one he has) I know that's not a lot to go on, but can anyone gather some info from this? Is it a WWI or WWII helmet? Is it a BEF or US helmet? etc...

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The Soldier
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The Soldier Here. I found one of those, is there a screw on top or a rivet? Mine has a screw and the liner is a bit different. Out.



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The Soldier
Mar 28 2010, 07:35 PM
March 28, 2010
The Soldier Here. I found one of those, is there a screw on top or a rivet? Mine has a screw and the liner is a bit different. Out.



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Screw on top? Sounds like you have, what's called, a Transitional Helmet. My Father wore one in '38-'42.
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It's a little difficult to provide much information from just a picture. Though, my opinion is that the helmet is an American M1917. If it is a British helmet, you will find a rubber doughnut in the crown of the helment, and the bales are often installed with split rivets. As for the number/letter code, that is the code for the manufacturer and the manufacturer's lot number. Though I do not know the code for the manufacturers. The liner should be afixed in the helmet using a single copper rivet that is peened. There should not be a threaded nut.
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The Soldier
Mar 28 2010, 07:35 PM
March 28, 2010
The Soldier Here. I found one of those, is there a screw on top or a rivet? Mine has a screw and the liner is a bit different. Out.



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Does your liner look like this?

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and the screw like this?

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The liner can always be a replacement...though that style screams WWI and should be held in place with a rivet.. The shape of the shell tells me its WWI manufacter. Easiest well to tell if the shell is Brit or US is by how the chin strap bails are held in place. If its a split rivet that holds the bails in place, its Brit. If solid rivets, its US.

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Mariner109
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Awesome, thanks for the replies. I'll ask about the bail rivets.
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Here is a good thread with a posting describing the British manufacturer codes.

http://warrelics.eu/forum/helmets/ww1-brodie-helmet-16128/
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:army: The Solider Here.

The screw on top of course is painted green. The liner is black with four pieces that come outand connect to a headband with a tie around the headband. Here is a picture of it.
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