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| SBR Weight? | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 22 2009, 02:45 PM (204 Views) | |
| cjdaley | Oct 22 2009, 02:45 PM Post #1 |
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I just got a Small Box Respirator in the mail today from Schipperfabrik. WOW, this thing is amazing. Really incredible job reproducing this item down to the last detail. I’m blown away and super happy. (Also got a really well fitting uniform from him too, which I'll review at a later time) One question: Since the original cans are filled with all sorts of stuff, the weight of the originals is a few pounds, but the repro can comes empty….any suggestions on what to fill it with to add weight to the can so it hangs properly when I wear it? (and no, I’m not filling it with asbestos ) , but do you recommend filling it with charcoal, cotton or anything else to give it weight? (and no I don't actually need it to be a functional mask against gas agents) |
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Christopher J. Daley tailor@cjdaley.com www.cjdaley.com “What we have of blood and treasure are yours, In the presence of the illustrious dead, we pledge our hearts and our honor in carrying the war to a successful conclusion, Lafayette, we are here!” -Colonel C. E. Stanton; July 1917 | |
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| BuglerJay | Oct 22 2009, 02:53 PM Post #2 |
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Don't bother trying to fill it with anything (though I'd recommend a good Cognac). Just use the tie string and it'll hang just fine.Cheers! |
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| cjdaley | Oct 22 2009, 03:10 PM Post #3 |
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Coming from a Civil War background, I hate seeing guys running around with a cartridge box flapping with no weight to it. Those things should be 4-6lbs and not be flopping around. Same with the SBR, the originals are heavy compared to our repros and just want to make sure it hangs properly when I'm running around. |
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Christopher J. Daley tailor@cjdaley.com www.cjdaley.com “What we have of blood and treasure are yours, In the presence of the illustrious dead, we pledge our hearts and our honor in carrying the war to a successful conclusion, Lafayette, we are here!” -Colonel C. E. Stanton; July 1917 | |
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| BuglerJay | Oct 22 2009, 03:26 PM Post #4 |
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Agreed re the empty cartridge pouches - and flat haversacks - and flat knapsacks. They lived out of them. But with the SBR, if you simply use the chest string - it ain't gonna flap. It'll hang correctly and stay firmly in place due to the chest string. All will be well.Cheers! |
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| Baston Grande | Oct 22 2009, 03:48 PM Post #5 |
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Though it does not add much to the weight of the bag, be sure to add the "anti-dimming" stick compound and the "repair-use" card. The stick can be found, there are originals out there and the card can be purchased from Randall Chapman here on the board.... |
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| 42nd_CEF_RHC | Oct 23 2009, 08:01 AM Post #6 |
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CJ, I have originals and the weight is not that far off - maybe of pound at most of the filtering material. As Jay noted, the string is the key. In the "Alert" position on your chest you can wear it with the strap either drawn all the way in to the buckle, hung around your neck, and the leather tab hitched on the post, string run around back and tied into the brass square.... ...or strap all the way extended, and form a V with the strap on your back, string run through this and all the way around tied into the brass square. (I like this method better in that is keep the strap from weighing down on your neck.) Either way works and was done. |
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| jdajd | Oct 23 2009, 11:16 AM Post #7 |
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While what everyone else has said is true, I'd point you to this thread on basically the same question. SBR discussion Jon |
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| jk816 | Oct 23 2009, 02:14 PM Post #8 |
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Also remember that anything you put in the can (or bag) you will be breathing, so make sure it is something your lungs are OK with (at Newville you can count on shale dust!). You might just try to put a small weight in the bottom of your bag as well, if heft is what you are after. Jim |
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| Joe Sweeney | Oct 23 2009, 05:20 PM Post #9 |
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Here are the contents by date for the British SBR. Cannisters before Aug 1917 were black and after shellac'd which gave a reddish hue. The post Aug 1917 canisters were known as NC canisters. Black ones were no longer used after late 1917 when NC canisters finally replaced them. The Granules were invariably made up of a compound called Kieselguhr. You can still find KG--a lot of "Kitty Litter" is made up of Kieselguhr. ![]() Joe Sweeney |
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| jdajd | Oct 23 2009, 10:53 PM Post #10 |
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That picture looks familiar Jon |
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) , but do you recommend filling it with charcoal, cotton or anything else to give it weight? (and no I don't actually need it to be a functional mask against gas agents)



Don't bother trying to fill it with anything (though I'd recommend a good Cognac). 
10:51 PM Nov 24