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National Defense; Defensive Military
Topic Started: May 3 2006, 05:02 PM (1,308 Views)
TomRK1089	Sep 7 2007, 01:18 PM Post #136
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	Hence B], Alan.
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


Assassin	Sep 13 2007, 12:03 PM Post #137
The lefty guy Posts: 604 Group: Trusted Member #26 Joined: March 1, 2006	Nevertheless, I think making alliances with governments would be a bad idea. Especially at the same time that we are encouraging their people to depose them.
	"Shoot, coward, you will only kill a man." - Che Guevera "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure." - Nelson Mandela Project Legacy - Building the Future


TomRK1089	Sep 13 2007, 02:55 PM Post #138
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	WTF? Here's what I'm saying Alan: the only time one needs to use an army is to defend a friendly or neutral nation who resides outside the Project (who is willing to accept our help, of course) or to defend citizens of a government who is complicit in human rights violations (preventing genocide, for example.) Where are you getting this stuff on entangling alliances?
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


Assassin	Sep 13 2007, 10:13 PM Post #139
The lefty guy Posts: 604 Group: Trusted Member #26 Joined: March 1, 2006	TomRK1089 Sep 13 2007, 02:55 PM WTF? Here's what I'm saying Alan: the only time one needs to use an army is to defend a friendly or neutral nation who resides outside the Project (who is willing to accept our help, of course) or to defend citizens of a government who is complicit in human rights violations (preventing genocide, for example.) Where are you getting this stuff on entangling alliances? Define a "friendly nation". One we have an alliance with the government of? This is where I get this stuff on alliances. But we should extend the bit about Human rights violations to apply to violations committed by invading/occupying armies as well.
	"Shoot, coward, you will only kill a man." - Che Guevera "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure." - Nelson Mandela Project Legacy - Building the Future


BlackLiger	Sep 14 2007, 01:56 AM Post #140
The middle ground guy. Posts: 200 Group: Forum Leader Member #4 Joined: September 2, 2005	Assassin Sep 13 2007, 10:13 PM Define a "friendly nation". One we have an alliance with the government of? This is where I get this stuff on alliances. But we should extend the bit about Human rights violations to apply to violations committed by invading/occupying armies as well. Freindly: Once who shares similar ideals, goals and values to ones self. Nation: A collective unit of people in a given land area under 1 unified government. Freindly Nation: A collective unit of people, who, represented by their government, share similar ideals, goals and values to ones own nation, namely the nation of Project Legacy. And yes, that's the situation of "Can we physically take on 2 opponents at once? Because I refuse to put our forces in harms way if it's going to put them at risk with little or no gain, personally. And you'll find many other people are rather convinced of that also.
	~ Chris Anyone know how to make bombs out of cheese? Not that I need to, its just a curious idea, if it can be done.


TomRK1089	Sep 14 2007, 01:15 PM Post #141
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	Perfectly summed up, Chris. Honestly, mate. There's enough important shite to do, we oughtn't have to waste time redefining what 'friendly' means.
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


Assassin	Sep 21 2007, 11:39 AM Post #142
The lefty guy Posts: 604 Group: Trusted Member #26 Joined: March 1, 2006	BlackLiger Sep 14 2007, 01:56 AM little or no gain So what, exactly, makes the difference between intervening or not? Oil? Greeeeeeeeeeattttt :rolleyes: I take the point, but as an internationalist movement, we shouldnt take benefit to our "nation" as a criteria for action.
	"Shoot, coward, you will only kill a man." - Che Guevera "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure." - Nelson Mandela Project Legacy - Building the Future


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