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Law Enforcement; For keeping the peace.
Topic Started: Mar 13 2006, 11:53 PM (1,574 Views)
TomRK1089	Mar 13 2006, 11:53 PM Post #1
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	Since I'm just as (if not more) lazy than Zephir, I'm gonna copy//paste this GChat transcript: GChat me: Yeah. I'd certainly say we're ready to open up the Law Enforcement debate, though. Zephir: I'll leave it up to you to open it. me: Cool. Zephir: You haven't had the opportunity to open one as of yet, so yeah. 6:42 PM Which reminds me, should do a little more with the permission masks... me: While we're on the subject, any preliminary thoughts on Law Enforcement? Besides your militia idea? Zephir: What, everyone having arms? me: Yep. Zephir: Not really, to be honest. 6:43 PM me: There should be somre sort of regulated law group, that's for sure. Zephir: For sure. 6:44 PM me: We want to stay away from the omnipotent IA/NSA type groups, though. ^CIA^ Zephir: Aye, I'd agree. me: Same style as the RMs and DMs? Horizontal, local groups? 6:45 PM Zephir: Still, it's hard to get anything done without some group that at least doesn't have access to a means of knowing what's happened in a criminal situation... Yeah, I'd say so. me: Hmmm... The only problem I see is what you said: coordination. And even the existing grous aren't all that good at it. 6:46 PM Zephir: Well, it's not going to be easy to coordinate. However, this is why we're even having debates about them. Between the two of us, we could probably hammer out something workable. However, it could always be improved. me: Alright. 6:47 PM I'll copy/paste this to kick off discussion. Zephir: Heh, you're just as lazy as I in ways, aren't you? me: Oh yeah. Hold on. Zephir: Heh. Thoughts, comments, or additions?
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


Zephir	Mar 18 2006, 01:09 AM Post #2
There is no such thing as a good tax. Posts: 545 Group: Forum Leader Member #1 Joined: July 26, 2005	Does anyone have anything to add to this whatsoever?
	"I am prepared to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." Winston Churchill "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill


k2323	Mar 18 2006, 03:23 PM Post #3
Changing the world one step at a time Posts: 141 Group: Trusted Member #21 Joined: January 7, 2006	I say there should be GSEM's Goverment Situation and Enforcing Managers. They meet with RM's to settle laws and sorts. When one comes up with a new law a vote passes for it in the GSEM's. Then, if both groups have 47 percent voting yes from who voted (seperated by groups still) from each group then they have a meeting to discuss it. There is a new vote the same way, except no meeting after it. There determines the law.



TomRK1089	Mar 20 2006, 03:03 PM Post #4
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	Not certain that there'd be much need for total collaboration between RMs and Law Enforcement, actually, except for in terms of important requisitions. As for voting, where did you pull 47 percent from? I'm still leery on giving law-making powers to law enforcers; it seems rather confusing. In fact, I'd like to stay away from giving one group total lawmaking powers. But on topic, this thread is for enforcement: criminal rights, abilities of agents to track down criminals, etc. Sort of redrafting a more effective FBI.
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


Assassin	Mar 21 2006, 11:03 AM Post #5
The lefty guy Posts: 604 Group: Trusted Member #26 Joined: March 1, 2006	TomRK1089 Mar 13 2006, 11:53 PM We want to stay away from the omnipotent IA/NSA type groups, though. ^CIA^ um kinda goes without saying
	"Shoot, coward, you will only kill a man." - Che Guevera "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure." - Nelson Mandela Project Legacy - Building the Future


TomRK1089	Mar 21 2006, 09:40 PM Post #6
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	Never not say something that could confuse people. Epecially something this sensitive.
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


TomRK1089	Mar 23 2006, 01:15 PM Post #7
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	^^Double postage because I'm just that cool^^ What I'm seeing for large scale law enforcement is a more streamlined, stripped-down version of the FBI. Only with more oversight. Here's my thoughts so far: Agency works with RMs of particular region for equipment requisitions. They decide which equipment is specifically the Agency's and which is simply lent out. The only potential problem here is a new version of the current budget wars. I would like to see more equipment being spread out so that you could have a mobile command post in each time zone. That way requisitions could be faster, and equipment transfers would be kept to a minimum. I'd also like for our proposed Agency to have more stringent search//arrest procedures. Perhaps there would be occasions where they might not have the requisite burden of proof to go after a known criminal, but I'd rather err on the side of limiting their power. I also see the average citizen becoming a greater force in local law enforcement--people should bear some responsability for their area. Although we don't want to go overboard with political correctness when it comes to convicted criminals, I'd like to see a more efficient prison system. The only problem is, I have no ideas on how to accomplish that--so that's you people's job. These are simply a few basic thoughts I have guiding me. Feel free to add on this subject.
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


Assassin	Mar 23 2006, 01:37 PM Post #8
The lefty guy Posts: 604 Group: Trusted Member #26 Joined: March 1, 2006	TomRK1089 Mar 21 2006, 09:40 PM Never not say something that could confuse people. Epecially something this sensitive. true...
	"Shoot, coward, you will only kill a man." - Che Guevera "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure." - Nelson Mandela Project Legacy - Building the Future


Zephir	Mar 23 2006, 02:26 PM Post #9
There is no such thing as a good tax. Posts: 545 Group: Forum Leader Member #1 Joined: July 26, 2005	As for prisons... I have a rather interesting solution for that. Medical technology has to advance somehow, right? Just keep them at labs for the duration of their term. Depending on the severity of the crime, they could have anything from minor cosmetic adjustments to testing replacement hearts. If a few (Or a lot) die, well, it solves the problem in it's own way.
	"I am prepared to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." Winston Churchill "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill


Assassin	Mar 23 2006, 05:13 PM Post #10
The lefty guy Posts: 604 Group: Trusted Member #26 Joined: March 1, 2006	Veto. No, let me rephrase that. VETO.
	"Shoot, coward, you will only kill a man." - Che Guevera "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure." - Nelson Mandela Project Legacy - Building the Future


TomRK1089	Mar 23 2006, 08:00 PM Post #11
Magnum PI Posts: 828 Group: Forum Leader Member #7 Joined: September 19, 2005	I dunno, I kinda like that solution.
	Think twice before you speak, and then you may be able to say something more insulting than if you spoke right out at once. Evan Esar, Esar's Comic Dictionary


_Jehuty_	Mar 23 2006, 08:18 PM Post #12
Leo Posts: 9 Group: Recruiter Member #8 Joined: September 25, 2005	As do I... It would be a frell of a lot more productive to actually put them to use, rather than just executing them.



WhiteRaven	Mar 23 2006, 08:23 PM Post #13
Webmaster Posts: 24 Group: Recruiter Member #6 Joined: September 11, 2005	Indeed, I don't really have anything to add to this. Although, I do disagree with the experimentation on prisoners. It's just immoral, in my opinion, and is akin to torture, I think.
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BlackLiger	Mar 23 2006, 08:25 PM Post #14
The middle ground guy. Posts: 200 Group: Forum Leader Member #4 Joined: September 2, 2005	Just have it stated on the law books that commiting a crime is regarded as vollonteering as a medical test subject. Solves the problem of morality cause people are forewarned.
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Zephir	Mar 23 2006, 08:26 PM Post #15
There is no such thing as a good tax. Posts: 545 Group: Forum Leader Member #1 Joined: July 26, 2005	BlackLiger Mar 23 2006, 08:25 PM Just have it stated on the law books that commiting a crime is regarded as vollonteering as a medical test subject. Solves the problem of morality cause people are forewarned. Pretty much what will be said.
	"I am prepared to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." Winston Churchill "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill


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