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Meta Ridley get!
Topic Started: Apr 5 2008, 01:12 PM (267 Views)
The Ultramind12
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FUCKING FINALLY. Twenty runs of the motherfucking Subspace Bomb factory, I am fucking tired of this level.

Also hah to you, Lego, I got it on Normal mode. Waited for him to start flying toward me with that fireball prepared. I've tried that several times, but he fires it and backs away, making me miss. In anticipation of this, I threw the stand early.

HAH, MOTHERFUCKER. I FUCKING CAUGHT YOU. YOU LOSE. GAME OVER. RAWR.
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Robtcee13
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Is this seriously the height of your accomplishments?

Well, I guess Meta Ridley is kinda... HARD AS FUCKING HELL to get. Good job on that.

Now get 99 of every possible trophy. Including Meta Ridley.
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The Ultramind12
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Screw that.
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Robtcee13
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Hey, that's an idea. Maybe for a future SSB, we could get a fancy trophy collector's rank. Just for some "points" to gain. Like, say, getting a new trophy is x amount of points, and a duplicate gives you y more points. Collect all from a series to get z bonus points.

So to truly finish the game, you'd need 99 of every trophy. Let's just hope that Trophy Stands are nuked. Hard.
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The Ultramind12
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I really want a freaking Shaydas, as well as several other "Giant" type enemies (Though I do have the Giant Primid trophy).

By "Giant" types, I mean ones that you have to weaken to trophify them. I do have an Armank, though, and believe me that was a pain in the ass.
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Robtcee13
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Can you simply drop a trophy stand without flinging it to an enemy? If you can, I'd imagine it'd be easy to get the bigger enemy trophies.

Edit: That or co-op.
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The Ultramind12
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Yeah, you can, but like all items, they have an annoying tendency to disappear if you drop them. >_<

You can, of course, use B moves to weaken your opponent, but that depends on your character b moves. If they suck or are too powerful, then you'll have to chance dropping the stand.

Another annoying tendency is for stands to drop from the last enemy in an area that you kill, or drop from the very enemy you wanted to trophify. Happens all the damn time.
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Robtcee13
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Co-op?
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The Ultramind12
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If your teammate can manage to not kill the target then yes.
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The Ultramind12,Apr 5 2008
01:45 PM
Another annoying tendency is for stands to drop from the last enemy in an area that you kill, or drop from the very enemy you wanted to trophify. Happens all the damn time.

Murphy's Law. That is all.
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I haven't got the game myself but, is getting trophies and shit really that hard? It just seems like you chuck it at bosses when you get them, and from videos they don't seem to move around that much
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Robtcee13
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Storm,Apr 5 2008
02:20 PM
I haven't got the game myself but, is getting trophies and shit really that hard? It just seems like you chuck it at bosses when you get them, and from videos they don't seem to move around that much

You have to weaken the bosses to a sliver of health first. Trophy Stands apparently appear extremely rarely, even on Intense. It doesn't help that half of the bosses have a tendency to hover just off the edge. Oh, and Meta Ridley has a 2 minute time limit.
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The Ultramind12
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The problem lies in that it may take a very LONG time for a trophy stand to spawn, especially on lower difficulties (I got lucky =P). Several bosses, like Galleom, Porky, and Petey are easy since they're firmly on the ground. Ridley can be a pain since he hovers just off the edge, so if you hit him there, the trophy may fall into the abyss. Meta Ridley, at low health, is VERY much hovering over the abyss, so you have to either dive after the trophy, or hit him with the stand above the Falcon Flyer, neither of which is easy. Oh and you have a two minute time limit on him.

Duon is a pain in the ass because he's so fucking hard to avoid.

The main problem is that several bosses require you to slog through the level to get to them, and if you screw up (They hit an explosive and kill themselves) you're guaranteed to be quite pissed at having to slog through that level AGAIN. Especially if you're doing on a higher difficulty, then even normal enemies can be quite deadly.

As for Giant enemies, the problem there is actually having a trophy stand when you encounter them. Items don't just spawn during levels, they have to drop from defeated enemies. The second problem is weakening them when you DO have the trophy stand, because you can't use any A moves (The stand is an item, and you throw it with A), so you have to use your B moves. If your B moves are too strong, you may accidentally kill the target. Too weak, and THEY may kill YOU. Co-op makes this easier, though.

Another problem is timing, because it takes a good second or two to toss the damn stand, during which time you may be hit. Feyesh aren't even giant enemies, and they proved annoying because they move so erratically and attack so fast.
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The Ultramind12
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As for Tabuu... well he's a major pain in the ass because he likes to teleport around. Nothing can quite match the suckitude of throwing a stand at him only for him to poof out of the watch and laugh as your stand flies off the edge.

Add to that his Wings of Death. Screw up on dodging them and you die. At least on Hard and above. The Boss Battles version is a bit weaker, they don't auto-kill, but in SSE the wings do a good 200% and you go flying.
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Robtcee13
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Sakurai could have just required you to TAP and press A in the direction you want to throw the stand to make your life so much easier. This is proof Sakurai hates you. Trophy Stands could have been made better.
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I got a trophy stand against Meta Ridley, then he used an attack he'd never used on me before.

He body slammed the Flyer, dropping it off stage before I knew what was happening >_<
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Robtcee13
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For the ultimate irony, have a trophy stand get knocked off the edge the moment it spawns. >_>
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Robtcee13,Apr 6 2008
11:56 AM
For the ultimate irony, have a trophy stand get knocked off the edge the moment it spawns. >_>

This has happened to me. Not fun.
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master4sword,Apr 6 2008
07:44 AM
I got a trophy stand against Meta Ridley, then he used an attack he'd never used on me before.

He body slammed the Flyer, dropping it off stage before I knew what was happening >_<

MR does that to me a LOT. You just have to jump.

How's this for fun: He grabs on the back and drags the ship down, after a trophy stand spawned. It goes down down down, I avoid being killed, and the Flyer comes back up... and the stand is gone because technically it fell off the edge. Fuck you, MR.
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Robtcee13
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Anyway, any other bosses you don't have, TUM?

Edit: Obviously, not Galleom Tank Form. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Galleom Tank Form is all I need...

BUT BOSS BATTLES INTENSE MODE IS FUCKING RI-GODDAMN-DICULOUS.

OH HEY I'M PORKY I'M GONNA KILL YOU AT TEN FUCKING PERCENT. WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING AS CHARIZARD. CHARIZARD.
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Robtcee13
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Easy tactic to make Intense Boss Battles easier:




...Watch now...




...You're gonna miss it...




1. Make sure Rayquaza is EARLY AS POSSIBLE. He's fast as a motherfucker when you get him late.
2. Don't take a hit.
3. Use Ness or Lucas and abuse Down-B against Duon. It helps if he's a later boss.
4. Charizard shouldn't be used unless you're good with slow characters.
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Rayquaza is a pain in the ass because he has so much fucking health.

Also hooray for getting Meta Ridley late, the fucker is fast as fucking hell.
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Robtcee13
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So, get a slow boss late. Get a hand late. >_>
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Did you know that Kirby's Final Smash will cook EVERYTHING THAT MOVES on the screen? Pokemon, Assist Trophies, projectiles...

Yes, Projectiles. People have seen it not only suck in Andross but also the TILES Andross was spraying out.

It also cooks Pikmin, so if Olimar dodges being sucked in, his Pikmin get sucked in anyway. Dodge it, then start pulling out Pikmin while Kirby's still banging the pans together, and he'll keep pulling them in. >_>

Continue pulling Pikmin out and letting them get sucked in, and once Kirby finishes cooking, there could be so many items the game will slow down. That actually happened to someone. >_>
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Robtcee13
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And here those elitists are complaining about items.
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The Ultramind12,Apr 6 2008
03:31 PM
Did you know that Kirby's Final Smash will cook EVERYTHING THAT MOVES on the screen? Pokemon, Assist Trophies, projectiles...

Yes, Projectiles. People have seen it not only suck in Andross but also the TILES Andross was spraying out.

It also cooks Pikmin, so if Olimar dodges being sucked in, his Pikmin get sucked in anyway. Dodge it, then start pulling out Pikmin while Kirby's still banging the pans together, and he'll keep pulling them in. >_>

Continue pulling Pikmin out and letting them get sucked in, and once Kirby finishes cooking, there could be so many items the game will slow down. That actually happened to someone. >_>

I have to do this.
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Just a note, though, it won't cook stage objects, like the flowers and Onions in Distant Planet, or the Ultimate Chimera.

It will, however, cook stage items (The pellets themselves, anything other items unique to a stage)

Yeah, one person was playing against his friend, who was Kirby. An Assist Trophy and a Smash Ball spawned. He went for the Assist Trophy... and out came Mr. Resetti, to which he told his friend to get the damn smash ball and be rid of him.

USEFUL.
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Robtcee13
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KIRBY FOR GOD TIER
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The Ultramind12
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What the fuck are you talking about, Kirby is ALREADY God tier.
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master4sword
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It's times like this that make me glad to be a Kirby user.
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master4sword,Apr 6 2008
04:55 PM
It's times like this that make me glad to be a Kirby user.

HEY. ASSHOLE.

REGISTER ME DAMNIT.
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Keotalf
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At least your not Personovdum. At least I think it was him. Anyway, all he did was abuse Final Cutter and Rock.
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Did he win?
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The Ultramind12
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Okay, canonical battle, who wins: Captain Falcon, or Ness?
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Robtcee13
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TUM, any of the one times I've fought M4S, he's abused Final Cutter.

Then again, it was a 99 stock sudden death match at temple and he was abusing Final Cutter on the far right.
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The Ultramind12
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Spamming a projectile with good knockback is quite an obvious tactic in a SSD match, if you're stupid enough to fall for it, then you fail.
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The Ultramind12,Apr 6 2008
06:46 PM
Spamming a projectile with good knockback is quite an obvious tactic in a SSD match, if you're stupid enough to fall for it, then you fail.

This. There was no way that I was going to get any closer than I had to. Besides, several of your deaths were because I dodged your Fox Illusion and you fell. >_>
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Robtcee13
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At least I was smart enough to pick someone with a ranged attack that has knockback. >_>

Besides, if it were Brawl, I'd have gone Aether Spam on yer ass. >_>
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Robtcee13,Apr 6 2008
06:22 PM
At least I was smart enough to pick someone with a ranged attack that has knockback. >_>

Besides, if it were Brawl, I'd have gone Aether Spam on yer ass. >_>

...

Fox doesn't have a ranged attack with knockback...
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The Ultramind12,Apr 6 2008
05:35 PM
Okay, canonical battle, who wins: Captain Falcon, or Ness?

Also I'd like an answer.
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Robtcee13
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Well, a semi-ranged attack. I count Fire Fox. >_>

And Fox Illusion.
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"Ranged attack" implies a disjointed hitbox that moves away from you. Like Fox's Blaster.
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Canonical Battle, Falcon wins close combat, if that is the only way to fight and everything else is restricted.

Otherwise, Ness by a landslide.

And who were you asking "Did he win?"
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The Ultramind12
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Falcon vs Ness: Falcon wins in close combat...?

Dude, SSB isn't canon in character abilities, Ness kicks his ass regardless.

Who won: I was asking if persun won using only Final Cutter and Rock.
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Hell no, I kicked his ass.
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