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Boss Trophies suck.
Topic Started: Mar 17 2008, 07:30 PM (210 Views)
Drifting Swordsman
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It's extremely rare that a Trophy Stand will show up, even on Very Hard and using a Trophy Stand booster sticker. This proves to be hell when dealing with the Ridleys, as all the other bosses are their own stage or at middle/end of an easy stage. If you kill Ridley by accident (Goddamned explosive crates and bob-ombs), you have to do the entire stage over again. And it is not fun. Not fun at all.
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The Ultramind12
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Don't forget that you have a two minute time limit on Meta Ridley. =D

Also a nice fat lol at the picture of Fox desperately attempting to grab the Meta Ridley trophy on the Dojo today as it falls. That's why you throw the stand while he's OVER the ship.

Oh, and you can trophify Tabuu as well. Someone on GFAQs posted in an "Angriest Moment" topic that his was when Tabuu attacked a bob-omb as he was about to trophify him. I must agree, I'd be pissed too.
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Keotalf
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They REALLY do.
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The Ultramind12,Mar 17 2008
07:33 PM
Oh, and you can trophify Tabuu as well. Someone on GFAQs posted in an "Angriest Moment" topic that his was when Tabuu attacked a bob-omb as he was about to trophify him. I must agree, I'd be pissed too.

Why wouldn't you be able to turn Tabuu into a trophy? After all, he is a boss, and other bosses can be made trophies. Doesn't matter if he's the final boss.

Also, those people who bitched about items in that topic were probably elitist trolls trying to say "Items are bad. Turn them off." with examples that relate to casual players. Call me crazy, but that topic nearly brought me to the edge of being pissed off.
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The Ultramind12
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Heh. I just turn off the items I don't like or that give entirely too much of an advantage to someone, such as the lightning bolt. Doesn't help that the RNG apparently hates me and 75% of the time I hit a lightning bolt, I shrink instead of everyone else. Hell, several things in the game seem to suggest the game's fooking RNG hates me. Like in All-Star mode. Every time I got a Pokeball, Goldeen or Wobbufet. Assist Trophy? Stafy. Really pissed me off.
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Robtcee13
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RNGs tend to not hate me. It's funny.
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The Ultramind12,Mar 17 2008
08:00 PM
Heh. I just turn off the items I don't like or that give entirely too much of an advantage to someone, such as the lightning bolt. Doesn't help that the RNG apparently hates me and 75% of the time I hit a lightning bolt, I shrink instead of everyone else. Hell, several things in the game seem to suggest the game's fooking RNG hates me. Like in All-Star mode. Every time I got a Pokeball, Goldeen or Wobbufet. Assist Trophy? Stafy. Really pissed me off.

I think EVERY RNG hates you. *points at the several female TUMs on Island 2*
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The Ultramind12
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Oh yes, that too. *Sticks ten Gooey Bombs on m4s for that*
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Robtcee13
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*Runs into M4S 10 times, taking all the bombs*

I can't let you ki-- *BOOM*
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The Ultramind12
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While running past him to pick up the ones you missed, others stick back to him. >_>

So you both go boom.
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Drifting Swordsman
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Ridley get. On intense, with three continues used. And I had to do the stage again, as I hit Ridley, and the trophy stand FELL OFF THE FREAKING STAGE. So, I pegged him when he landed after his dive bomb. And I even got a new SSE enemy trophy out of it.
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The Ultramind12
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Think I'mma save the Ridleys for last.

I've got Rayquaza, Galleom, and Petey so far. Duon is proving to be a douche, and I don't want to trek through the levels for the Ridleys, so I guess I'm going for Tabuu.

This promises to be painful...
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Robtcee13
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Of course it'll be painful. He's the final boss AND has an instant kill attack. >_>
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Keotalf
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The OHKO is painfully easy to avoid.
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yellowpikminboy
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There is a video of Taboo fight where they turn him into a trophy.
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The Ultramind12
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I know his Red Rings of Death are easy to dodge, but sometimes you fudge the timing and get obliterated, and that's no fun.
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yellowpikminboy,Mar 20 2008
03:11 PM
There is a video of Taboo fight where they turn him into a trophy.

His name is Tabuu.

Also, do you suppose the Red Rings of Death are an allusion to the Xbox 360's many malfunctions? >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Perhaps an allusion to the most common one, where you have three of the "Rings" of the on switch turn red. I've had that happen before (But my 360 was fine afterwards, switch it on and off a few times and it was a-okay) and I believe it's the most common.
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Robtcee13
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That's what I meant, but I didn't want to seem like a fanboy and say "...allusion to one of the Xbox 360's many malfunctions."

That'd just be me being an ass. In retrospect, why didn't I do that? >_>
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The Ultramind12
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The RNG and I have made up.

Was fighting Tabuu, hard mode, trying to get the trophy of him. First attempt, he wipes everyone without any stands showing up. Damn.

Second attempt, TROPHY STAND YAY! I throw... he teleports, and the stand flies off the edge. NOEZ!

... Then another trophy stand spawns. Meta Knight picks it up, but gets hit by an attack, thankfully dropping it. He dies and Lucario steps up. I pick up the stand, carefully avoid him, wait for him to get to the right spot... and pop him with the trophy stand. I am now the proud owner of a trophy of Tabuu. =D

Now onto the Ridleys and Duon. I will not like Duon, no I will not.

And Meta Ridley will be SATAN.
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Robtcee13
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The RNG isn't necessarily responsible for the AI of foes. Unless this is one of the few games that uses a behavioral RNG. Like, for instance, I've seen exploits in older fighting games where you can basically trick the AI to jump a lot and not attempt to attack. It's RNG abuse in that their behavior is determined by the RNG.

Although I guess how often a stand appears is random, eh?
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The Ultramind12
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Yeah, I wasn't talking about the AI, I was talking about the items. And MK dropping the stand, the RNG could have been a bitch and had him hold on to it while he died.

Also, Ridley and Duon get. Ridley managed to get the upper hand the first time as he killed the person with the stand then killed Sonic, but the second time, I stayed up there as Sonic, whittled him down, and trophied him. Whoo!

Duon, after several attempts on Hard and Very Hard, I gave up and went to Easy. I waited only about five minutes for a stand to pop up. Capture lulz.

I would have had Meta Ridley, but my brother and I accidentally attacked him at the same time and he died... and that is a LONG ass level to go through to get to him, which is mass gayness.
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Robtcee13
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Behavioral RNG is extremely old anyway, now. Now we've got actual intelligent enemies.

Still, I doubt the RNG has much control over whether or not you drop things when hit. The force of the blow is more of an influence, I'd think.
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Drifting Swordsman
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So, Meta-Ridley and Tabuu get. Both on Intense. (Subspace Bomb Factory on Intense is a BITCH, btw.)

The key to getting Meta Ridley (With 1 second left, lulz) is hitting him with the stand when he's above the flyer using his fireball barrage. Anywhere else, and the trophy plummets into the oblivion.
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Robtcee13
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Can't you air dodge and catch falling stuff? >_>
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Drifting Swordsman
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Trophies fall FAST, and the gap that the trophy has to fall is very small..
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The Ultramind12
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Yeah, I almost got him once when he was over the flyer, but then he backed up and the stand missed and fell off. Much gayness.

Also fuck, Bomb Factory is a bitch on Hard Mode, how the fuck did you beat it on Intense?
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Drifting Swordsman
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2 continues. And I had to do this TWICE because Meta-Ridley's trophy fell off the Flyer once.

Team: Lucario, Sonic, Meta Knight, Olimar.

I found this funny... After snagging Ridley, among my loot was a sticker of Sonic the Hedgehog. So, I go through.. And who gets Meta-Ridley's trophy? Sonic. OMEN.
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The Ultramind12
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Whoever decided to make Meta Ridley back away from the Falcon Flyer as he takes damage can fuck right off, because hitting him with a stand and getting the trophy is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.
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Robtcee13
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That was actually likely done to make it harder to hit him. Unfortunately, it also makes it harder to get the trophy.
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