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Topic Started: Feb 12 2008, 05:37 PM (201 Views)
Robtcee13
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Someone tried to make a roster of his dreams. And failed.

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Mario (I suppose he is a classic.)
Dr.Mario (No. He was a lame clone in Melee, and always will be.)
Luigi (Who? Green guy?)
Peach (I can live with that)
Bowser (All good games need villains)
Geno (I don't see it happening. Nintendo doesn't own Geno.)
Wario (Honestly, can't predict anything, but he wouldn't be terrible.)
Waluigi (So, obscure character from 1 game makes an appearance. I don't think so.)
Paper Mario (lolmarioclone)
Bowser Jr. (If he were luigified, I would have no objections)
Yoshi (He's a classic)
Kamek (As long as he doesn't fly. Still skeptical of having a mage.)
DK (Classic.)
Diddy (Already in. Just give him a good FS this time, okay?)
K.Rool (Please, no. Sure, villains are good, but a giant crocodile? No.)
Link (Classic.)
Zelda (Classic.)
Shiek (Misspelled.)
Toon Link (De-clone him, and de-glitch him.)
Ganondorf (Just give him his sword back)
Tingle (Fuck no.)
Kirby (Classic)
Meta Knight (Badass)
King Dedede (Overpoweredly awesome)
Pikachu (Classic)
Pokemon Trainer (Why not? 3 in one)
Mewtwo (Although many of you say YES, I say NO. Too many useless attacks.)
Lucario (He kicks ass. Doesn't bother me.)
Jiggypuff (Better FS, stronger Rest, and it's all good.)
Fox (Classic.)
Falco (New FS plz)
Wolf (New FS plz)
Slippy (Dear god no. Seriously.)
Samus (Classic)
Zero Suit Samus (What, another fast character? Works for me.)
Dark Samus (What next? Dark Zero Suit Samus? No.)
Ridley (A bit big, but if he could work, it'd be cool.)
Ice Climbers (Just... Remove them already. Please?)
Balloon Fighter (Uh... No.)
Pit (Pit deserves rep. He's been in retirement for ~15 years)
Ike (Ike is cool.)
Marth (Marth is my main. Obviously, yes.)
Roy (He was a marketing technique in Melee for Japanese. I say no to sucky characters.)
Snake (I'd say no, because, despite Snake being cool, he seems a bit out of place)
Ness (He's okay, I guess.)
Lucas (He's better than Ness.)
Phoenix Wright (OBJECTION! ...No. Assist Trophy maybe, but not character.)
Sonic (Fanservice? Sure, we need one of those.)
Shadow (He'd be a direct clone with a new FS. No.)
Tails (He'd be an Assist Trophy at best.)
Knuckles (He's a fighter. He's got moveset potential. It's just not likely to happen.)
Amy (Hmm... What would happen if you picked up a Golden Hammer? No.)
Doctor Eggman (Considering he fights in mechs, he'd be bigger than Ridley. No.)
Pikmin and Olimar (Sure, why not.)
Pikmin Bug (No. People need names to exist. >_>)
Mr. Game and Watch (He's decently unique, so that works.)
R.O.B. (Just... Give him a better FS.)
Captain Falcon (OKAY. CLASSIC.)
Samurai Goroh (No thanks. He's fat. >_>)
Banjo (Microsoft. Fail.)
Tom Nook (As evil as he is, you'd have to admit, he'd be lame. I'd say no.)
Isaac (He's an assist trophy. Thus, this fails.)
Megaman (They already refused his inclusion in Brawl.)
Cloud (Let's see here... lolno. Final Fantasy can stay out of my Smash Bros.)


Overall, that has to be one of the worst dream rosters evar. >_>
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Maltese
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Wait. Nintendo owns Geno.

I think.

Not really sure how the ownership of that game breaks down...
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Robtcee13
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Squaresoft made the game, so I would assume they own it. Nintendo just let it be on the SNES. Nintendo owns Geno as much as they own Conker.

Edit: If Nintendo does own Geno because he's on their system, that means they own the entire cast of Kingdom Hearts as well. Don't forget that.
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Robtcee13
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Epic typo

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Is it true that if you pre-order from gamestop you can get a free Bonus Dick if you pre-order within 10 days of the shipping date? Would be nice to know if this rumor is a fake because I really want one.


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fake

i already got my american copy and i didn't get a bonus disc


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A bonus schlong!? I don't think ANY store will do THAT!


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free Bonus Dick


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Its not fake you get a demo of Brawl lol


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trying to make people reserved 10 days near the release date would just make it harder on the store


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....free bonus dick....lol


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inb4everyoneposts"lol"


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omg Free bonus dick?! hell sign me up!

inb4stoptryingtomakefads



Just quoted it to make sure the topic doesn't get deleted. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Those are your opinions on his roster, yes?

You say yes to Bowser Jr? SUICIDE NOW.

You say no to Mewtwo? SUICIDE IMMEDIATELY.

You say yes to Ridley? SUICIDE FIVE MINUTES AGO.

You think Shadow would be a clone? KILL YOURSELF AS BRUTALLY AS YOU CAN. Seriously, a good chunk of Sonic's moveset wouldn't even work for Shadow, considering Shadow can't breakdance...

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Storm
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I can't find a relevant link, but I'm sure I've heard a while back Geno was what's known as "second and a halfth party"

SMRPG was made by Square, but with express permission and directions from Nintendo due to it involving Mario characters; ergo, Square does own the majority of rights to Geno/Mallow/Smithy, but considering Nintendo were overseeing/quasi-collaborating on the game, they own a small right to them as well.

Don't quote me on that though, my reasoning's probably wrong.
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Robtcee13
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The Ultramind12,Feb 12 2008
07:00 PM
You say yes to Bowser Jr? SUICIDE NOW. Only if his move set doesn't completely suck. Unlike you, I focus on gameplay, not the actual character.

You say no to Mewtwo? SUICIDE IMMEDIATELY. No, I just said that Mewtwo sucked in Melee. He had no real KO moves, and felt like a superfluous character.

You say yes to Ridley? SUICIDE FIVE MINUTES AGO. Only if they somehow make his size not an issue.

You think Shadow would be a clone? KILL YOURSELF AS BRUTALLY AS YOU CAN. Just because you're a Sonic fanboy and are in love with Shadow? I fail to see how your opinion applies to me.

Yup.
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Storm
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You think Shadow would be a clone? KILL YOURSELF AS BRUTALLY AS YOU CAN. Seriously, a good chunk of Sonic's moveset wouldn't even work for Shadow, considering Shadow can't breakdance...

um, how would he not be a clone

aside from maybe his final smash
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Robtcee13
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Storm,Feb 12 2008
07:15 PM
um, how would he not be a clone

aside from maybe his final smash

*Gasp*

Alert the National Guard, Storm and I agree!
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The Ultramind12
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No, seriously, COMMON SENSE dictates that Shadow would have a completely different moveset. I mean, really, he doesn't do the whole Spindash thing.

I played extensively as Mewtwo in Melee, he's pretty damn good when you're not doing the whole "No items, 1-on-1, Final Destination" stupidity. Also, you've clearly never seen Mewtwo expert videos, which could make Fox users (Sans Ken) cry.

Ridley's size cannot possibly be a non-issue. To make him playable, he'd need to be around Bowser's size, and quite frankly I can't see that as not being awkward looking.

Bowser Jr... meh, never really liked him. Probably has something to do with making me chase him around Isle Delfino fifty billion times. I also can't really see much of a moveset for him. And if people think they'd implement the brush from Sunshine, they are sorely mistaken.
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The Ultramind12
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Storm,Feb 12 2008
06:15 PM
You think Shadow would be a clone? KILL YOURSELF AS BRUTALLY AS YOU CAN. Seriously, a good chunk of Sonic's moveset wouldn't even work for Shadow, considering Shadow can't breakdance...

um, how would he not be a clone

aside from maybe his final smash

Well, let's see...

A huge chunk of Sonic's moveset is based on his spinball style, and the rest is breakdancing. Shadow can't breakdance and hardly uses spinball.

Besides that, take a nice good look at Sonic Battle. Draw some inspiration from that and you've got a nice Chaos-oriented moveset. Final Smash, seeing the Star Fox Characters, would likely be Super Shadow, but I'd really rather a Chaos Blast to annihilate everyone on the field.
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Storm
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Robtcee13
 
*Gasp*

Alert the National Guard, Storm and I agree!



it's not exactly my calling to disagree with you or anything

;_;
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Storm
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also back to TUM's point

I've never heard of Sonic Battle and neither has 99% of people, so the most likely moveset's going to be a Sonic clone

it's like saying Luigi's going to be a completely seperate character from Mario because he has the Poultergust and shit, but he's clearly going to be a semiclone of sorts
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Robtcee13
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Storm,Feb 12 2008
07:26 PM
Robtcee13
 
*Gasp*

Alert the National Guard, Storm and I agree!



it's not exactly my calling to disagree with you or anything

;_;

I know, I know, but I haven't seen much of you agreeing with others because you're the most mature person here. That's why we're alerting the national guard, I promise.

I would also alert the National Guard or suspect you got hacked if you started capitalizing things and using punctuation.


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No, seriously, COMMON SENSE dictates that Shadow would have a completely different moveset. I mean, really, he doesn't do the whole Spindash thing. Yes, perhaps, but I'm pretty doubtful that Nintendo would do that much research on Shadow beforehand anyway. And besides, people will do to them what they did with Fox and Wolf. They look similar. Their final smashes are the same. CLONE.

I played extensively as Mewtwo in Melee, he's pretty damn good when you're not doing the whole "No items, 1-on-1, Final Destination" stupidity. Also, you've clearly never seen Mewtwo expert videos, which could make Fox users (Sans Ken) cry. Sadly, I do tend to play 1-on-1 without items, and the lack of Mewtwo's kill moves makes me not use him. Also, his second jump is ludicrously big.

Ridley's size cannot possibly be a non-issue. To make him playable, he'd need to be around Bowser's size, and quite frankly I can't see that as not being awkward looking. Scale him down by half, and it'd work perfectly. Have faith, man.

Bowser Jr... meh, never really liked him. Probably has something to do with making me chase him around Isle Delfino fifty billion times. I also can't really see much of a moveset for him. And if people think they'd implement the brush from Sunshine, they are sorely mistaken. That's what they said about Animal Crosser. And Captain Falcon. And Mr. Game and Watch. And Fox. And...
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Robtcee13,Feb 12 2008
06:31 PM
No, seriously, COMMON SENSE dictates that Shadow would have a completely different moveset. I mean, really, he doesn't do the whole Spindash thing. Yes, perhaps, but I'm pretty doubtful that Nintendo would do that much research on Shadow beforehand anyway. And besides, people will do to them what they did with Fox and Wolf. They look similar. Their final smashes are the same. CLONE. Except Sega needs to give them the characters models and such, so SEGA/SONIC TEAM decides his moveset.

I played extensively as Mewtwo in Melee, he's pretty damn good when you're not doing the whole "No items, 1-on-1, Final Destination" stupidity. Also, you've clearly never seen Mewtwo expert videos, which could make Fox users (Sans Ken) cry. Sadly, I do tend to play 1-on-1 without items, and the lack of Mewtwo's kill moves makes me not use him. Also, his second jump is ludicrously big. So... Having a great second jump is bad? Ever heard of float canceling?

Ridley's size cannot possibly be a non-issue. To make him playable, he'd need to be around Bowser's size, and quite frankly I can't see that as not being awkward looking. Scale him down by half, and it'd work perfectly. Have faith, man. Half the size he is in Brawl... no, that looks awkward. And is bigger than Bowser.

Bowser Jr... meh, never really liked him. Probably has something to do with making me chase him around Isle Delfino fifty billion times. I also can't really see much of a moveset for him. And if people think they'd implement the brush from Sunshine, they are sorely mistaken. That's what they said about Animal Crosser. And Captain Falcon. And Mr. Game and Watch. And Fox. And... Except Animal Crosser didn't get in Brawl, did he? Also, nowhere did I ever see someone say that G&W didn't have a moveset. And I meant that I couldn't see a moveset that's not a ripoff of Bowser.

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Robtcee13
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The Ultramind12,Feb 12 2008
08:16 PM
Robtcee13,Feb 12 2008
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No, seriously, COMMON SENSE dictates that Shadow would have a completely different moveset. I mean, really, he doesn't do the whole Spindash thing. Yes, perhaps, but I'm pretty doubtful that Nintendo would do that much research on Shadow beforehand anyway. And besides, people will do to them what they did with Fox and Wolf. They look similar. Their final smashes are the same. CLONE. Except Sega needs to give them the characters models and such, so SEGA/SONIC TEAM decides his moveset.

I played extensively as Mewtwo in Melee, he's pretty damn good when you're not doing the whole "No items, 1-on-1, Final Destination" stupidity. Also, you've clearly never seen Mewtwo expert videos, which could make Fox users (Sans Ken) cry. Sadly, I do tend to play 1-on-1 without items, and the lack of Mewtwo's kill moves makes me not use him. Also, his second jump is ludicrously big. So... Having a great second jump is bad? Ever heard of float canceling?

Ridley's size cannot possibly be a non-issue. To make him playable, he'd need to be around Bowser's size, and quite frankly I can't see that as not being awkward looking. Scale him down by half, and it'd work perfectly. Have faith, man. Half the size he is in Brawl... no, that looks awkward. And is bigger than Bowser.

Bowser Jr... meh, never really liked him. Probably has something to do with making me chase him around Isle Delfino fifty billion times. I also can't really see much of a moveset for him. And if people think they'd implement the brush from Sunshine, they are sorely mistaken. That's what they said about Animal Crosser. And Captain Falcon. And Mr. Game and Watch. And Fox. And... Except Animal Crosser didn't get in Brawl, did he? Also, nowhere did I ever see someone say that G&W didn't have a moveset. And I meant that I couldn't see a moveset that's not a ripoff of Bowser.

I was skeptical about G&W. And I love how you failed to address C. Falcon and Fox. And Falco and Wolf.

Ahem.
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The Ultramind12
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Falcon's moveset came out of nowhere. But I wasn't aware the characters were leaked before SSB64 came out. I wasn't even aware of SSB64 until I saw the commercial and said "That's awesome."

The only thing about Fox's moveset that's surprising is the Fire Fox and Fox Illusion. The blaster is pretty damn obvious (He has one in SF64's multiplayer mode) and the reflector is based on DO A BARREL ROLL. The rest of his moveset can easily stem from his natural agility as a fox.

Falco needs no justification. Just tweak Fox's moveset a bit.

Wolf also needs no justification. Further tweak Fox's specials and give him a more ferocious fighting style as befitting of a wolf. And I hope you're not trying to imply Wolf is a Fox clone, because HE ISN'T.
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Back to Geno...

He appears in Mario + Luigi RPG (Superstar saga for you americentrics).

So, I'd say Nintendo owns him...

EDIT: GOSHDAMN is TUM entertaining when he's pissed about nothing! Suicide five minutes ago. Priceless!!!
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The Ultramind12
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Try reading the credits of Superstar Saga, which clearly states that Geno belongs to SquareEnix.
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Well, point.

But, seeing as Square and Nintendo are no longer in mortal combat about the whole FFVII thing, I'm sure if Nintendo cared, they could pull a Geno off.
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Robtcee13
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I still say Square should stay out of Smash Bros. Look at the intro to SSBM.

"Nintendo's All Stars in:"

Yeah. Square isn't Nintendo, thus, Geno is not an all-star, and will NOT be included. I've explained that Sonic is fanservice, and Snake is likely used to attract more diverse playing styles. And I think he's popular in Japan anyway. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Snake is in because Kojima begged for him to be in.

With him having broken the barrier for third party characters, Sonic was a given.

Geno is third party. If they really wanted to, they could get permission and add him with DLC.
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Fire 1, fire 2, fire 1, fire 2....
If DLC is present.
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ITT, "opinionation"

That being said, here's my two cents.

Geno is overrated. I've always used Mario/Peach/Bowser in SMRPG, and left Geno and Mallow in the dust.

Phoenix Wright as a character would suck; the only way I could see him playable is if they did something completely absurd, like give him magical powers or something. Assist Trophy could work, though.

Haha, Paper Mario. It might work if they're really creative about it, i.e. throw in his partners for attacks, use badges and the freaking hammer, etc.

Kamek... um... maybe. Nah, probably not.

Mewtwo has useless attacks? What's wrong with fixing his moveset?

Balloon Fighter? lolno

Slippy? gtfo of my brawl. I'd rather have Gwonam from the CD-I Zeldas. I mean, at least he has laughably terrible dialogue.

Tom Nook would just be silly and asinine and serve only as a novelty character.

Megaman would be cool, but highly unlikely.

Cloud? Okay... no. As much as I like the earlier FFs, it should just stay out of Brawl.
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The Ultramind12
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It better be. This is Super Smash Bros Brawl, likely to be the last Smash Bros since Sakurai no longer works for Nintendo. We better get some god damn DLC. Otherwise Nintendo is just a bunch of dumbasses, I mean look how well Xbox Live works.
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Robtcee13
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The Ultramind12,Feb 12 2008
09:12 PM
It better be. This is Super Smash Bros Brawl, likely to be the last good Smash Bros since Sakurai no longer works for Nintendo. We better get some god damn DLC. Otherwise Nintendo is just a bunch of dumbasses, I mean look how well Xbox Live works.

Fix'd

You think Nintendo's gonna end this series? No, they're just gonna screw it up epically. >_>
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