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So I started playing Melee again...
Topic Started: Feb 9 2008, 12:35 PM (202 Views)
Robtcee13
I am a fish.
Let it be known that I suck as all Pokemon, Ness, and Falco (Yet not Fox?).

So far today, I've cleared Classic with the rest of the characters without dying, and completed All-Star without healing or continuing, thus unlocking Game and Watch and Battlefield. And a shitload of trophies. Also, Rest for Jigglypuff kicks ass if you hit with it. I love those 2 second long battles ended by Rest.

Yeah, my memory card exploded long time ago, so I had to unlock everything again. I'm not bothering to get Final Destination. >_>
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Robtcee13
I am a fish.
Now I'm going to make up an adventure. Because I'm bored.

Part 1: Rise of the evil Dr. Mario

Playable characters: Dr. Mario
Enemies: All other characters, including Dr. Mario (Lv 1)
Special: Stamina. Reduce HP to 0 to win, do NOT knock foe off.
Stage: Battlefield. If you KO a foe, try again at Hyrule Temple. Fail again, and you must restart from 2 characters ago.

Battle 1: Dr. Mario
Battle 2: Mario
Battle 3: Luigi
Battle 4: Bowser
Battle 5: Peach
Battle 6: Yoshi
Battle 7: DK
Battle 8: C. Falcon
Battle 9: Ganondorf
Battle 10: Falco
Battle 11: Fox
Battle 12: Ness
Battle 13: Ice Climbers (Reduce both to 0 HP)
Battle 14: Kirby
Battle 15: Samus
Battle 16: Zelda/Sheik
Battle 17: Link
Battle 18: Y. Link
Battle 19: Pichu, Pikachu (Both on a team, KO neither)
Battle 20: Jigglypuff
Battle 21: Mewtwo
Battle 22: Mr. Game and Watch
Battle 23: Roy

After capturing Roy and all the other fighters, Dr. Mario was pleased... Up until he heard of a foe who had not been slain...

Battle 24: Marth vs. Dr. Mario (Lv 5)

Dr. Mario has been defeated, and captured in the form of a trophy thanks to the efforts of Marth. However, all of the other fighters, knocked off of Battlefield, still needed to be revived...

Part 2: The dark fighters

Playable Characters: Marth at first, then any fighter you revive.
Enemies: All other characters, excluding Marth and Dr. Mario. All Lv 3.
Special: Stamina. Reduce HP to 0 to win, fighter must be falling off of Hyrule Temple as battle ends (Yet not get KO'd). If defeated, you must purify the defeated fighter again.
Stage: Hyrule Temple. If you fail, the next fighter in line comes to attack you as you attempt to continue purifying your current opponent. If more than 3 join at once, start over from the first battle.

Battle 25: Dr. Mario
Battle 26: Mario
Battle 27: Luigi
Battle 28: Bowser
Battle 29: Peach
Battle 30: Yoshi
Battle 31: DK
Battle 32: C. Falcon
Battle 33: Ganondorf
Battle 34: Falco
Battle 35: Fox
Battle 36: Ness
Battle 37: Ice Climbers (Purification of Popo is all that is necessary)
Battle 38: Kirby
Battle 39: Samus
Battle 40: Zelda/Sheik
Battle 41: Link
Battle 42: Y. Link
Battle 43: Pichu
Battle 44: Pikachu
Battle 45: Jigglypuff
Battle 46: Mewtwo
Battle 47: Mr. Game and Watch
Battle 48: Roy
Battle 49: Any defeated fighter(s)

That's all I've got so far. >_<
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Storm
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Necrofantastic
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I used to kick people's shit with Bowser

such an underrated character.
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Robtcee13
I am a fish.
Yeah, Bowser is awesome if you don't use advanced techniques. And I don't.

My good characters are:

Mario
Dr. Mario
Bowser
Fox
Samus
Y. Link
Marth

And the worst?

Roy
Falco
Yoshi
Ness
Ice Climbers
Ganondorf

Funny how half my worst are clones of my best characters. >_>
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Storm
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Necrofantastic
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I think my mains are:

Marth
Peach
Sheik
Bowser
Luigi

maybe Falco, but I haven't played the guy in ages, and I can't wavedash/shffl/shine for shit
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The Ultramind12
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I'm not going to be playing Melee again. I don't want to get used to how it works, because Brawl is so much different.
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Robtcee13
I am a fish.
TUM, you can play it as long as you don't wavedash. I don't use any of those advanced glitches techniques which aren't in Brawl, so I'd be used to Brawl quickly enough.
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The Ultramind12
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No, the entire feel of Brawl will be vastly different.

I find myself often getting the "Stale Moves" penalty, possibly because my tactic is to just spam smash attacks as much as possible.

That's BAD for Brawl. In Brawl, spamming the same move over and over and over will not only decrease the damage but also the knockback.

That and the whole feel of Brawl is generally just different, so I'll just wait for Brawl.
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Robtcee13
I am a fish.
The Ultramind12,Feb 9 2008
08:50 PM
That's BAD for Brawl. In Brawl, spamming the same move over and over and over will not only decrease the damage but also the knockback.

Same thing in Melee. Attacks used repeatedly eventually drop as far as half power and knockback.
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The Ultramind12
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No, Melee only drops damage dealt. The knockback doesn't.
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The Ultraardvark12
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If you wanted to, you could play entire games with just smashes. After a while it'd be hard to damage enemies, but they still went flying at high damages.

That is no more.
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Robtcee13
I am a fish.
If you wanted to, you could play entire games with just final smashes. After a while it'd be hard to damage enemies, but they still went flying at high damages.

That is no more.
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The Ultramind12
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I don't think the damage output rule applies to Final Smashes...
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Robtcee13
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It applies to all the other moves. >_>

So imagine, eventually, Critical Hit won't 1hko
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The Ultramind12
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...

No.
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Robtcee13
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It's not like you've played the game.
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The Ultramind12
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*Epic headdesk*

THE SHEER POINT OF FINAL SMASHES IS TO BE POWERFUL AS ALL HOLY HELL. THEY WOULD NOT BE DIMINISHED IN POWER FROM REPEATED USE WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ELSE.

Besides, you need to attack the Smash Ball to open it, so the point is moot; the attacks against the Smash Ball would negate the power penalty if there was one.
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Robtcee13
I am a fish.
Power penalty does not come from using the same move repeatedly, or you could just cycle between your 3 smash attacks and stay at full power. It's the amount of time you used it over the course of the match. Sure, it'd take awhile, but a Final Smash will wear down eventually.
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The Ultramind12
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No, it won't.

The power penalty is removed after a while. Otherwise, in 99 stock matches, by the end you'd be doing 1% damage per attack.

Do you have to be a friggin' idiot about EVERYTHING?
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Robtcee13
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There's a minimum, dumbass.
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The Ultramind12
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*Bones chips and gray matter splatter on the wall behind me as yes, my epic facepalm went THROUGH my face*

No. No. No. No. No. You're a fucking IDIOT. Ask Melee experts. Repeated use of an attack weakens it. Continued use of the same attack over and over will weaken it further. If you mix up your attacks instead of spamming the same things, the penalty is nonexistent.

In Brawl, the damage penalty is increased, and the knockback is reduced as well. For instance, three consecutive uses of Zelda's fair resulted in it having SIGNIFICANTLY less knockback. That doesn't happen if you use lots of different attacks.
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Robtcee13
I am a fish.
That's what I'm saying. But you see, using an attack that does 25% damage repeatedly WILL NOT reduce it to 1% in ANY circumstance. The lowest it will go is around half. Are you a FUCKING melee expert? I didn't. Fucking. Think so.
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The Ultramind12
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Fine.

Go ask on Smashboards and get laughed at. But I played a lot of Melee and even through 99 stock matches, my attacks never went down to doing only half damage.

If it halved damage and knockback in Brawl, a 99 stock match would take a ludicrously long amount of time. It may not go down to doing only 1% damage, but it sure as hell won't gradually drop to half damage/knockback and stay there if you keep switching it up.
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Maltese
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Fire 1, fire 2, fire 1, fire 2....
I just love how TUM gets so worked up about absolutely nothing.
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The Ultramind12
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No, I get worked up over people being fucking dumbasses.

Which is why I really don't like you. ^_^
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Robtcee13
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Yeah, and we're off topic anyway.

Just did a 10 minute coin match, one on one, no items, Battlefield. 1661 coins. ^^

...And no negative bonuses.
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