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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 6 2007, 04:49 PM (455 Views) | |
| Hoboman | Dec 6 2007, 04:49 PM Post #1 |
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http://nintendrone.blog.com/2368798/ Super Smash Bros. Brawl: ROSTER LEAK? DISCLAIMER: THIS IS STRICTLY A RUMOR FOR NOW Supposedly, a graphics designer on staff for Prima (guide books for games) has leaked the roster, and is as follows: Veterans....... Mario Link Kirby Pikachu Fox Samus Zelda Bowser Donkey Kong Yoshi Peach Ice Climbers Shiek Jigglypuff Luigi Captain Falcon Ness Marth Ganondorf Young Link (Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass Themed) Falco Mewtwo Mr. Game and Watch Newcomers.... Pit Wario Zero Suit Samus Ike Pokémon Trainer Diddy Kong Meta Knight Snake Lucas Sonic King Dedede Olimar Krystal K. Rool Geno Animal Crossing Villager Ridley Isaac Megaman OHSHI- Geno. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 05:05 PM Post #2 |
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Ridley? K. Rool? Animal Crossing Villager? FAKE. |
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| Drifting Swordsman | Dec 6 2007, 05:18 PM Post #3 |
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*bitchslaps TUM* Ridley and K. Rool > You. That said, it is indeed fake, but not for that reason. The author of that site has admitted it was fake numerous times. lol @ gullible gamefaqers who still believe it. An actual leak will be on the 15th. Coro Coro is supposed to reveal the roster for Brawl. Dunno if it'll be the starting roster or the full one. |
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| Hoboman | Dec 6 2007, 05:53 PM Post #4 |
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As much as I'd like him to be, Geno's not gonna be in the game, so it's fake. |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 6 2007, 06:28 PM Post #5 |
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All the reasons the list is fake. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 06:59 PM Post #6 |
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YOU DARE TO IMPLY OLIMAR ISN'T GOING TO BE IN BRAWL? GWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR! *Smushes you with a nearby planet* |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 6 2007, 07:01 PM Post #7 |
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Olimar is 3 fucking inches tall. There's no possible way he'll be in the game. >_> |
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| Drifting Swordsman | Dec 6 2007, 07:10 PM Post #8 |
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Kirby is 8 inches. Sorry, you fail, try again. EDIT: ... Also, you think Marth, Ganondorf, Mewtwo, and Mr. Game and Watch aren't going to return? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 07:36 PM Post #9 |
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*Didn't notice the Mewtwo* WOT?! *Smushes you with a bigger planet* HELL YES MEWTWO IS COMING BACK, AND HE BETTER BE BUFFED FROM THE SHITTY MELEE VERSION. Seriously, the actual Mewtwo is, like, god. They nerfed him in Melee because they were afraid of his potential. NOT THIS TIME. *Looks again* Ummm... Hey, he didn't highlight Mewtwo. Meh. *Smushes anyway* Oh, but I do, in fact, hope that Marth and G&W don't come back. G&W was useless, and getting rid of Marth knocks another member off the "top tier" list. Never liked any of them except Fox. Also, if you're going to use the size issue against Olimar, then you forgot to highlight Ridley. Hell, you forgot to highlight Ridley anyway. |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 6 2007, 07:46 PM Post #10 |
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Here's my justification. Marth: He needs to die. He's been replaced, in essence, by Ike, and we don't need clones cluttering the roster. Ness: Replaced by Lucas. No clones needed. Ganondorf: Why do we need a slow-ass villain no one uses, when we could have used a much faster, more mobile clone? Hell, why do we want to keep clones? Young Link: Paradox, much? Also, CLONE. Mr. Game and Watch: He was useless, and would absolutely not fit in with the new theme of the game. Also, most obscure character ever. Maybe he could be a support trophy. Olimar: In addition to being only... Wait... I got that wrong. 3 CENTIMETERS tall, he also has absolutely no way of defending himself on his own. What, are all of his attacks going to throw pikmin and wait for them to do gradual damage? He'll be just as useless as G&W. Krystal: Most obscure character ever. Also, she never actually fights on her own in the game she's in. And we don't need any more Star Fox clone characters. K. Rool: Need I explain? This guy hasn't been around for, like, 7 years. He's absolutely huge, bigger than DK and DeDeDe combined. We don't need an overweight crocodile on our roster, thanks. Geno: Not going to happen. Obvious reasons. Animal Crossing Villager: What the fuck? Worst fake character ever. For 1 thing: The name is too long. Another thing: ABSOLUTELY NO ATTACKS. Pitfall is already an item, so that couldn't be an attack. What's he gonna do? Throw furniture? Use a net? Talk people to death? Isaac: As cool as it'd be to have Isaac on our roster, do I need to bring up obscurity issues? The best he'd get is a support trophy. Also, Ridley has come in smaller forms. Play NES Metroid now. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 07:54 PM Post #11 |
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NES METROID IS NOT A VALID DEFENSE. It was retconed in Zero Mission, where Ridley is, properly, even bigger than K. Rool. You lose. Besides, if you're gonna use NES Ridley, he's gonna have to look like that too. You want fugly 8-bit Ridley for Brawl? |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 6 2007, 08:04 PM Post #12 |
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Zero Mission, and other remakes, do NOT overwrite history. And besides, I never stated that they'd use NES Ridley. I stated that he's been smaller before, and they could just use the small "younger" version in this game instead of any other version. Olimar, however, will never be bigger. |
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| Maltese | Dec 6 2007, 08:07 PM Post #13 |
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And, By your logic, Ness/Lucas/Pit must also be sprited and clunky. |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 6 2007, 08:08 PM Post #14 |
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What do you mean, Ness? >_> |
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| Maltese | Dec 6 2007, 08:11 PM Post #15 |
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A. Brawl. B. In case he does show up. C. As you can see by my avatar, I'm a badass bounty hunter. That means I'm right. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 08:15 PM Post #16 |
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Kirby's 8-inches tall in his series. He's sure as hell bigger than that. Olimar can easily be bigger. Besides, moveset potential? Captain Falcon, anyone? Don't tell me people can't have their own movesets. Besides, working Olimar movesets have been posted. And yes, retcons DO overwrite history. That's... kinda the whole purpose of retcons. Therefore, Ridley has ALWAYS been enormous. Besides, even so, envision Ridley being smaller than Bowser in Brawl. Now, you cannot honestly tell me that doesn't look ridiculous. And, Jango/Boba Fett? Badass? *Falls out of chair laughing* |
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| Maltese | Dec 6 2007, 08:18 PM Post #17 |
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MOAR LIEK CANDEROUS "MANDALORE" ORDO! Anyways, Video games aren't like comic books. Retcons don't work like that. Otherwise, In the darkness videogame, you'd have to have your ass kicked by LAURA CROFT. |
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| Drifting Swordsman | Dec 6 2007, 08:21 PM Post #18 |
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... My god, this topic is giving me a large urge to kill people. Marth: First lord of the FE series, most reoccuring, with 2 games out, and a 3rd coming soon, his sword is the symbol for the FE series in Melee and Brawl, and he's got a completely different playstyle than Ike, not to mention his moves so far seem to be quite different. Also, why the hell are you calling the original a clone? Ness: As much as I know he's gone, he doesn't deserve to be. The only truly international Mother character, and the face of the series since Earthbound and SSB. Fuck you, Lucas. Ganondorf: Give him a new moveset. Duh. He's the main villain of one of Nintendo's three best selling franchises, and extremely popular. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT HIM GONE?! Young Link: Meh. Wouldn't mind seeing him gone. As long as he's not revamped into that monstrosity we call Wind Waker Link. Mr. GW: ... You have no idea how much I hate you right now. He's one of the most unique characters in the game, in the middle tier, so he does not suck, especially compared to Bowser, Pichu, Mewtwo, and the rest of the bottom tier. Not to mention that GW is the very first Nintendo character, and a tribute to Gunpei Yokoi, a genius in the realm of gaming. Also, what new theme? Nintendo characters (plus Snake and Sonic) beating the crap out of each other. If you say smash has gotten darker, I'm pointing straight to stuff like Pikachu, Yoshi's Island, etc... Olimar: ... And you call yourself a Pikmin fan. If they can bullshit a moveset for Captain Falcon, who never fought in his games, (His devastating Falcon Punch used in the anime came straight out of Smash.) they can make a moveset for a character that actually fights. Rocket Punch, Sprays, Enemies, Pikmin. Growshroom made a godly Olimar moveset.. Wish I had saved it. Krystal: ... Obscure? You've obviously never played a Starfox game. K. Rool: Main villain of the DK series, and was last seen in DK Barrel Blast and Jungle Climber, two games that were released.. Oh.. a few months ago? Size doesn't matter. Geno: I'd prefer Bowser Jr., but it could easily happen. SMRPG is a cult hit, and Ninty did have that cameo in Superstar Saga. They could easily get the rights from Square to put Geno in. AC Char: Net, slingshot, shovel. Make a moveset based on the AC tools. Easy. Also, Mr. Resetti is the one who talks people to death. Isaac: Golden Sun isn't that obscure. It's considered the best RPG on the GBA by some people, and there are rumors of a 3rd on the way... In summary, Rob, you are a goddamned idiot, and get out of my sight. Also, for TUM... Ridley: Melee Intro. He can be resized, easily. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 08:22 PM Post #19 |
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... When did this happen? Never? Yeah. And that most definitely is not Canderous. He doesn't wear a helmet, as I recall. Then again, I haven't played KoTOR II. |
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| Hoboman | Dec 6 2007, 08:26 PM Post #20 |
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FUCK YEAH LET'S FLAME EACH OTHER TO DEATH OVER A FUCKING OBVIOUS JOKE TOPIC, WE'RE SO FUCKING BADASS I'M GONNA BURST A MUSCLE OR TWO IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA, FUCK YES. |
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| Drifting Swordsman | Dec 6 2007, 08:27 PM Post #21 |
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... *smacks Hobo* When I see a wall of fail, I have to take action. |
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| Maltese | Dec 6 2007, 08:28 PM Post #22 |
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A. Second game. B. Jackie Estrada has been beaten by Laura Croft, in the Top Cow comics (I.E. the company that owns both The Darkness and the comic rights to Tomb Raider), several times. The first time was just humiliating, too... C. Maltese needs link to Olimar moveset. Hell, Maltese wants to find where all these nifty movesets are! |
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| Hoboman | Dec 6 2007, 08:30 PM Post #23 |
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boards.gamefaqs.com |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 08:32 PM Post #24 |
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I've watched the Melee intro. How about paying closer attention and noticing, HOLY SHIT, when he charges in closer, he's BIG. Also, you clearly haven't kept up with the times. Bowser? Bottom tier? Not anymore he isn't. Gimpy attests to that. Now then... Marth - Meh, I just don't like him. Fought against a level 5 computer while I was Fox, comp was Marth. Any time I got in close enough to feasibly attack, SLASH LOL. Little bastard attacks too fast. Ness - AGREED. FUCK LUCAS. Ganondorf - Also agreed. Young Link - Away with this little prick. We don't need two characters for newbs to spam dairs with. G&W - When I learned he was the last character to unlock, I figured he'd be pretty strong. He turned out to be pretty useless. Olimar - AGREED. Krystal - Victory to the furries? Besides, she has virtually a zero role in absolutely everything. NOT IN MY BRAWL. Geno - PUT HIM IN. Geno is awesome. And who the hell SERIOUSLY wants Bowser Jr? That's stupid. AC Char - ... You have just earned yourself several dozen PHAIL points, Lego. Come now. Isaac - Not for or against him. |
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| Maltese | Dec 6 2007, 08:32 PM Post #25 |
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And wade thourgh all that? He;ll, aren't the message boards split in half, too? |
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| Drifting Swordsman | Dec 6 2007, 08:34 PM Post #26 |
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So much.. epic fail in this topic. Gah. *sporkagas TUM and Rob* |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 08:35 PM Post #27 |
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... Jackie. Beaten by Laura Croft. Absolute BS. Probably a popularity contest. Shadowlyger: Mr. Bogglesworth agrees. Anyone who is currently his host isn't going to lose to Laura fucking Croft. Darkness: That. Only minus the "Mr. Bogglesworth" part. Not to mention, did this happen within The Darkness comic? No? Okay, thank you. EDIT: *Counter Lego's Sporkaga by calling on The Golden Spork's protection* No, seriously, most of those characters are just plain stupid, and I can't believe you want EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. |
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| Maltese | Dec 6 2007, 08:37 PM Post #28 |
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Whatever happened to TGB's moveset topic? B. Nope. It happened in the Darkness comic (Or was it Whitchbade? No, Darkness). Two words: Sticky Flare. |
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| Hoboman | Dec 6 2007, 08:38 PM Post #29 |
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Oh you tiger! You want her in as much as you wanna godmod every second of your life. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 08:52 PM Post #30 |
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So you agree! I don't want her in at all. Glad we could finally agree on something, Hobo. ^_^ Oh, and then that's clearly a popularity contest. In an actual fight, thar's no way in hell she could win, cause there's something called "Shoot out the lights." You can do that to flares too. |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 6 2007, 09:33 PM Post #31 |
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So wait, just because we don't agree with you, that makes us epically fail? Seriously, half of that list was bullshitted out of the most moronic characters you could imagine. There are way more popular characters who could be in Brawl. Olimar: I'm not a Pikmin fan. I play it, but I find a lack of direct combat to make it very... Not fun. At least, to me. Sure, commanding an army is good in a game like that, but not in Brawl. AC Person: Why the fuck is this guy fighting? Shouldn't he be doing all of his boring shit involving selling stuff for Tom Nook? Who, by the way, has a better chance of being in this game. Also, where the hell is his final smash? K. Rool: As I recall, he's way slower than Bowser and anybody else. He has giant elaborate level-style machines fight for him while he moves around randomly. And incredibly slowly. Sure, use his boxing form from DK64, a sad Mario 64 clone that, in all honesty, I found incredibly lacking, but what special moves will he have? |
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| Maltese | Dec 6 2007, 09:39 PM Post #32 |
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The sticky flares were stuck to Jackie. Dozens of them. But he got Croft back the second encounter. BTW, if it WAS a popularity contest? Jackie would have ripped her to shreds. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 10:03 PM Post #33 |
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You underestimate the swaying power of breasts... no pun intended. Seriously, fifty bajillion horny teenagers will push a female character through a popularity contest, unfortunately. Nice to know he got revenge, though. If Croft's won more often, it just goes to show Top Cow favors her... |
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| master4sword | Dec 6 2007, 10:31 PM Post #34 |
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About characters being too big: Have you seen how big Bowser is in several Mario games? He's MUCH smaller in Smash than he is when he's being a villain. |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 6 2007, 10:45 PM Post #35 |
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FUCK YOU, NO HE'S NOT. Bowser has this wonderful thing called MAGIC. He has no real "canon" size. Not to mention, he doesn't look retarded at his Smash size. |
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| Storm | Dec 7 2007, 02:38 PM Post #36 |
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uhm, Bowser does have a canon size, he just uses magic to go really large on occasion also whoever put forward the "Olimar can't defend himself argument", Peach, Ice Climbers, GW, Captain Falcon and Pichu are hardly suited to the offence |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 7 2007, 04:12 PM Post #37 |
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... You've just gained a few respect points, Storm. That now places you at... *Does some quick math* Only -4259! >__________________> |
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| LL2 | Dec 7 2007, 04:26 PM Post #38 |
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SSBB IS ABOUT TROPHIES OF CHARACTERS. CANON SIZE DOES NOT APPLY, OTHERWISE BOWSER WOULD BE HUGE, KIRBY WOULD BE 8 INCHES TALL, AND DEDEDE WOULD BE THE SIZE OF MELEE PICHU. And yes, Bowser does have some access to magic, but he's never been as small as he was in Melee except for maybe the very first Mario game, and I think he was bigger even back then. Marth - He's pretty much the overall main character of FE. Ike's moveset is NOTHING. NOTHING. Like Marth's. Just because Ike is a blue-haired swordsman doesn't mean he has the same moveset as Marth. Ness - Lucas was supposed to be in Melee. If it wasn't for SSB and SSBM, most of you wouldn't be defending him, nevermind know who he was. Ganondorf - If you really think he should leave then you're a dumbass. He's the antagonist of LOZ, one of Nintendo's biggest franchises. He was only a Luigified clone in Melee because they ran out of time to make a brand new moveset. He was originally going to use the sword he has in the victory poses. They've had plenty of time to make him a new moveset. Young Link - Don't like him, don't like the idea of WW Link being in Brawl. The only way I would say yes to this was if he had an MM moveset. G&W - He's not going anywhere. Period. Olimar - Most movest potential out of any character ever and he was the only one that utilized the "Save Data Tophy" feature in Melee. Not to mention he's popular enough and recognised by the makers. Krystal - You not liking furries isn't a valid reason why she shouldn't be in. Seriously, I laugh when people say she has zero roll than turn around and go "WOLF SHOULD BE IN LAWLZ!" Staff = Moveset potential, unlike any other Starfox character. Geno - One minor character from one spin-off of one major series that only the most "hardcore" ("hardcore" Translation: Spends most of their time playing video games and lurking forums) of "hardcore" gamers recognise? Yep. He sould definetely get in. AC Char - I don't think any AC character should get in. NOT because I think they would be a bad addition, I just think that they wouldn't fit into SSE. Isaac - I wouldn't mind him getting in, but I don't know enough about him to support him either. |
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| Hoboman | Dec 7 2007, 05:11 PM Post #39 |
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DING DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNER LADIES AND GENTS! WE HAVE A FUCKING WINNER! |
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| Storm | Dec 7 2007, 05:28 PM Post #40 |
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I usually see the anime DDD as canon size also your Geno and AC arguments are flawed, and I'd defend Ness as Earthbound fuckin ruled |
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| The Ultramind12 | Dec 7 2007, 05:29 PM Post #41 |
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Too bad it doesn't work that way for Ridley, lol. Please, for the love of god, imagine Ridley as smaller than Bowser (He'd have to be, as Bowser is the biggest Brawler). Can you honestly tell me that doesn't look ri-goddamn-diculous? No, you can't. |
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| Maltese | Dec 7 2007, 05:36 PM Post #42 |
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He doesn't look ri-goddamn-diculous. |
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| LL2 | Dec 7 2007, 05:37 PM Post #43 |
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I usually see the anime DDD as canon size Too bad the anime didn't come first. also your Geno and AC arguments are flawed, and I'd defend Ness as Earthbound fuckin ruled Okay, fine. One major character from a spinoff of a major series. And for AC, how is that flawed? The AC has no "Lets Save the World!" attitude, he just wants to live in his house and interact with people. Too bad it doesn't work that way for Ridley, lol. Too bad you're too blind to see that it does, lol. Please, for the love of god, imagine Ridley as smaller than Bowser (He'd have to be, as Bowser is the biggest Brawler). Can you honestly tell me that doesn't look ri-goddamn-diculous? No, you can't. Yes, I can. The site says "Biggest and Heaviest" which doesn't nessecarily mean the tallest, and also, even if it does mean that it doesn't mean he can't be like, a few millimeters smaller. He wouldn't look ridiculous either. |
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| LL2 | Dec 7 2007, 06:06 PM Post #44 |
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Meh, I had a whole Olimar Moveset similar to Growshroom's, but the Brawl board move so fast that it's already gone, so... I'll just post the basics. When playing as Olimar, you would start with five Pikmin, with a maximum of twenty. Pikmin could be shaked off by preforming Smash and CERTAIN Special attacks after they have grabbed on, but it doesn't nessecarily shake all of them off. They can also be shook off by fast runnning or continuous jumping. If a Pikmin is thrown without landing on an enemy or the get shaken off, then they stop moving and become idle. Red Pikmin have 3% HP and do 3% per hit. Immune to fire. Yellow Pikmin have 2% HP and do 2% per hit. Immune to electricity. Blue Pikmin have 2% HP and do 2% per hit. Immune to water attacks. Purple Pikmin have 10% HP and do 10% per hit. Causes a stun when thrown onto an enemy. White Pikmin have 1% HP and can do 1% per hit. If killed, they do 10% damage to the enemy. Purple Pikmin and White Pikmin both have only a 5% chance of being picked. B: Olimar whistles, calling any idle pikmin on the stage to him. When no Pikmin are around, it can be used to stun nearby enemies. B>: Olimar commands the Pikmin to swarm forward. When they come into contact with an enemy, they grab on and start attacking. Bv: Olimar pulls a Pikmin out of the ground, adding it to the group. B^: Olimar throws a pikmin into the air. If it hits an enemy, the Pikmin grab son and starts attacking. This move also has a SHORT tether recovery, where the Pikmin grabs onto the edge before Olimar throws it. (It's only a small recovery so that Olimar isn't uber god with his army along with being able to fight himself.) Meh, that's the basic idea. I still wished I had the whole moveset though.... |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 7 2007, 06:12 PM Post #45 |
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I still say that overcomplicates things. |
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| LL2 | Dec 7 2007, 06:15 PM Post #46 |
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No, it doesn't. At a push of a button your pikmin are running toward the enemy, and you can just pummel him like normal while your Pikmin are stuck on him. It's like Ice Climbers, except the B attacks are simple commands. |
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| Technova | Dec 7 2007, 06:38 PM Post #47 |
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That's cool. Now when does Brawl come out? I don't know right now sooooo..... |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 7 2007, 07:18 PM Post #48 |
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Gamefaqs. |
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| Technova | Dec 7 2007, 07:56 PM Post #49 |
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And where can I find the answer of Gamefaqs? |
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| Robtcee13 | Dec 7 2007, 07:59 PM Post #50 |
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Just go to GameFAQS, dammit. It's so easy to find, it's unbelievable. |
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