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Topic Started: Sep 19 2007, 05:30 PM (2,473 Views)
Imano Ob
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Robtcee13,Feb 3 2008
07:06 PM
Storm: Days of Ruin, not Dark Conflict. And the game horribly disappointed me, due to several broken new units, and no War Room, and unbelievably easy Campaign. No Hard Campaign either. No Crystal Calamity. Nothing actually hard. It's just a game you play on Wi-Fi. In fact, you could call it the Halo of the Advance Wars series.

It's Dark Conflict on Europe.
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Robtcee13,Feb 3 2008
09:06 PM
Storm: Days of Ruin, not Dark Conflict.

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Robtcee13
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Didn't know the game title was changed in Europe.
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Robtcee13
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The point of this topic is moot, as the game is out in Japan. Although, just to blatantly ignore the videos all over the internet, I've got to say Final Destination looks amazing in Brawl. Today's update details the background usage.
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The Ultramind12
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Trophy descriptions

In English, but they're not labeled which trophy is which, so you have to look for context clues.

Luigi's FS description is surprising.
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The Ultramind12
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Hey...

Falco throws his reflector now, right?

What happens when he throw it at Fox or Wolf's Reflector? Or if two Falcos throw their reflectors at each other?
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master4sword,Oct 16 2007
07:12 PM
The Ultramind12,Oct 16 2007
08:06 PM
Oh, oh, even better... imagine if it goes up to 4. That means 4 Yoshis.

Wonder how far Sandbag flies with 999% damge?

"Mario has been arrested for smashing Link off of a bridge. In other news, the Hyrule Temple, which was set to be in Brawl, has been shattered into 487 peices after a Sandbag teamed up against by four Yoshis went flying through it at record speeds. One of the Temple peices crushed Ness, so it's unclear whether or not he'll be out of the hospital before Brawl's release."

So, I guess that Ness got better.

And they repaired Temple. >_>
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Robtcee13
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I have one thing to say about this game.

HOLYSHITYOUCANDIEWITHOUTGOINGOFFSCREEN. It's called getting crushed by, say, elevators, or running out of HP in Stamina. You just asplode. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Yeah, I've seen that. First video I saw was Link getting crushed by a lowering ceiling. At first I thought he'd just take a lot of damage but no, he went boom.
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Robtcee13
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Yeah, I went all hypocrite on you and watched Brawl videos of SSE.

Now I know not to get crushed. >_>

Also, I was reading comments and someone said that someone's death was unexpected. I thought he was talking about the story, but in the video, Mario went up an elevator standing ON it. BIG MISTAKE. He got smashed. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Yeah I saw that and thought, "Well, that was dumb."
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Robtcee13
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I thought it was funny. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Methinks Spear Pillar is banned for competitive play. And for VERY good reason. THERE'S SO MUCH RANDOMNESS.

20 seconds after the start of the level, a Pokemon appears in the background. From what I've read, either Palkia, Dialga, or Cresselia (Something like that) appears back there, as well as occasionally those little munchkins like Azelf and the other two that look like it.

Not sure what Palkia does.

Dialga will occasionally hop forward from his platform in the BG and use an attack that sends nearby people flying upward, then he steps back onto his platform.

Cresselia will throw out a boomerang-like projectile and fire crescents.

Not sure what Azelf and such do.

There are other stage hazards too. Number one, lasers. Yes, lasers. Occasionally a laser will fire across the bottom section of the stage, or at the top left or top right section, straight down. These are, of course, very painful. Two, occasionally, a section or the top platform will shatter, opening a path to the bottom section of the stage, and some time later fix itself. The stage will also occasionally tilt diagonally. (WTF?) Lastly, it will also occasionally MIRROR. As in, the stage, and everyone's positions relative to it, flip. THAT is deadly if you've been knocked off the stage, as instead of moving TOWARD the stage, it'll flip and suddenly you're moving AWAY from the stage.

That's just what I've seen. Thus far, Spear Pillar looks like the craziest stage just behind WarioWare.

... I don't know why I posted this. I WAS COMPELLED. I HAD TO POST IT SOMEWHERE. IT'S LIKE THOSE TIMES WHEN ARTISTS SUDDENLY HAVE AN URGE TO DRAW SOMETHING AND IT WON'T LEAVE THEM ALONE UNTIL IT DOES.

I NEEDED TO POST THIS ARGABLARGAG.
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In this update, casual elitists get owned.

"Sakurai doesn't care about your advanced techniques!"

lolno.
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Robtcee13
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THESE aren't the advanced techniques I care about. I USE these. The ones that piss me off are the ones that abuse game engine glitches and exploits such as wavedashing. Powershielding, parrying, and even recovering as you hit the ground? Those have been in since the series began, and are actually not cheap. I mean, come on, SHFFLing Link's dair made him overpowered, and Fox was top tier because he was good at waveshining people. I feel it just severely unbalanced the game.
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The Ultramind12
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Aero Dive looks good and banned.

"But wait! Mute City wasn't banned and it was pretty much exactly the same!"

Almost. In Aero Dive, the cars are a LOT bigger, a LOT faster, with NO warning, and they kill at VERY low %s. Like, 70%. That's GAMEBREAKING in a tournament.
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Robtcee13
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70% is low?
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The Ultramind12
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In Melee, where people routinely die at around that spot? No.

In Brawl, where people die at more like 150%? Yes.
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Robtcee13
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More like 120%

But I see what you mean. Not like I bother with tournaments anyway.
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The Ultramind12
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Hey Rob.

There's a Big sticker in Brawl. As in, Big the Cat.
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Robtcee13
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He's not a character.
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The Ultramind12
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Hey, you know that thing I said about Dedede's Forward Smash being the strongest attack in the game?

I was wrong. I was horribly wrong.
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Robtcee13
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Dedede's Fsmash is less situational. That, you have to wait a couple minutes between times. You also need a Smash Ball and Super Mushroom at the same time.
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The Ultramind12
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WHO CARES, it's still the most powerful move in the game. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Here it is again, even better.
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The Ultramind12
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Ick...

Olimar's non-blue Pikmin drown in water, such as that in Delfino, Summit, and Toon Link's stage.
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Robtcee13
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Triple post.

TUM is getting excited, folks. And yeah, that Pikmin news is kinda assumed by Olimar's update. >_>
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The Ultramind12
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Hay Rob.

Final Smashes are immune to Stale Moves Negation. Because attacking the Smash Ball counts toward removing the negation for other moves, so even if they DID suffer from Stale Moves (Which would defeat the purpose of a FINAL SMASH), they can't because you need to attack the Smash Ball.
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The Ultramind12
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A really good Olimar player.

Notice how he uses his Purple Pikmin to get MK off the edge.
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Robtcee13
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The Ultramind12,Feb 14 2008
08:21 PM
Hay Rob.

Final Smashes are immune to Stale Moves Negation. Because attacking the Smash Ball counts toward removing the negation for other moves, so even if they DID suffer from Stale Moves (Which would defeat the purpose of a FINAL SMASH), they can't because you need to attack the Smash Ball.

If you wait, you could use a single attack to smash the Smash Ball, then use it. It gradually loses health as it floats about.
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The Ultramind12
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*Facepalm*

They're STILL immune to the stale moves negation.
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Robtcee13
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There could be a such thing as cheating to always be in a Smash Ball state with a future cheat device released for the Wii. Since the Final Smash is a move, and it's intended to be immune to the aforementioned effects because of how you acquire it, that does NOT mean it's immune. It just means that it's immune by conventional means. Through usage of a cheat device, you could place yourself always within Final Smash standby status, and use it repeatedly. Thus, it WOULD get weaker. I see no reason why the negation wouldn't apply to Final Smashes, as they are attacks. There isn't code in the game to make them inherently immune. They just are because of how to acquire it.
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There's an Event match where you play as Fox in constant "Smash Ball acquired" status, so you can use the Landmaster to rack up kills.

The damage and knockback output does not lower. Ever.
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The Ultramind12
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THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is how you play as Sonic.
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Robtcee13
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The Ultramind12,Feb 16 2008
01:51 PM
There's an Event match where you play as Fox in constant "Smash Ball acquired" status, so you can use the Landmaster to rack up kills.

The damage and knockback output does not lower. Ever.

Because all the Landmaster final smash does is turn you into a Landmaster tank. The attack itself does no damage whatsoever.

I refer to ones that do direct damage, such as the Triforce Slash, or the Mario Finale. Those ARE attacks, and they do damage. The will do less damage if used repeatedly in a row.
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The Ultramind12
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*Epic Headwall*

Faith in humanity... rapidly deteriorating...

Wouldn't, you know, THE CANNON do gradually less damage? You know? Duh?

Of course, it doesn't, because IT'S A FUCKING FINAL SMASH and not affected by Stale Moves.
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Robtcee13
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Why do you think people alternate the cannon and barrel rolls/thrusters? I rarely see people spam the cannon, and when they do, I see a noticeable decrease in knockback.
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The Ultramind12
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I don't.
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Robtcee13
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Must not be good at seeing it, or you aren't watching the right videos.

This just in, Luigi's Final Smash is from SMB1. Remember the Minus World? There you go.
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The Ultramind12
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Or maybe you're just being a pain in the ass.

No, wait. You're not MAYBE being a pain in the ass. You ARE being a pain in the ass.
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Atomic Inferno
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Can't we just put this damn argument to rest already?

And then smother it with a pillow?
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Robtcee13
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Atomic Inferno,Feb 16 2008
04:45 PM
Can't we just put this damn argument to rest already?

And then smother it with a pillow?

And TUM too.

I'm not being a pain in the ass, I'm speculating. You have no fucking right to say shit about games you haven't FUCKING played, so SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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The Ultramind12
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You're not speculating.

You're being an idiot.

It's a FINAL SMASH. Making it suffer from Stale Moves would completely destroy the point of a FINAL SMASH.
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Robtcee13
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The Ultramind12,Feb 16 2008
04:58 PM
You're being an idiot.

You're not arguing.

You're flaming.

Now try again without flaming like an 8 year old.
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Both of you, cut it out. Warned. Don't make me take away your posting power, either of you.
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I really want to say at this point "it's okay, TGB isn't like that! our main posters are at least intelligent."

and then I realise ._.
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Robtcee13
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Hey, I tried to change the subject in the end, but he continued to pursue the issue.
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The Ultramind12
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Lol, Titanic
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Robtcee13
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Link looks cold.

And no, I'm not being a smartass. >_>
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BEST TROPHY EVER.

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