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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 6 2009, 08:05 PM (1,844 Views) | |
| Chains Of Fate | Dec 6 2009, 08:05 PM Post #1 |
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President of Crystal Tokyo
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Just to get more discussion rolling, there's a topic I want to talk about: characters in the game being more realistically developed. I want to make it clear that the game will have some pretty mature situations and the characters will go through some pretty dark problems. This will not be a common thing throughout the game, but the characters of the game will all have their moments. The manga already had some pretty mature situations what with Serenity/Usagi's suicides and that sort of thing. I won't have anything too severe, like no characters will be addicted to sex or anything. XD For example, one NPC becomes addicted to firearms, like addicted to learning how to use them for self defense after a near-death experience. While it starts as a way to feel safe, it eventually becomes a rush for this character and they begin to take it too far. One thing I was possibly thinking of was making Makoto a compulsive thief. So basically not a thief because she wants things/is selfish, just because she can't help it. It could go along with her whole collecting cutesy things trait she had in PGSM. Maybe she only steals cute things or something like that. What do you guys think? That's just one instance. So what are some things you guys think could make for some pretty dramatic/interesting situations/events/etc. ? This can apply to anyone within the game. Heroes, villains, NPCs, anyone. |
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| Tristan | Dec 7 2009, 04:03 AM Post #2 |
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I think that makoto should generally be a person with problems , after all she lives without parents for a long time , all she do by herself , hell i am 24 I live on my own for 2 years and it is still some reasurance that I may call my father to consult him or to simply talk , so maybe you could shown her as rather closed type , afterall she was rejected from other school for fights right? This kind of thing was never shown in the anime , you could make it a character development as she opens to the others when she finally found peoples she can rely on. Ami Mizuno - also the looner type , and also very good drama material , why? Because she always study , always is the best , you could show as (because of the whole fighting the evil) she does not have so much time to study , her grade go down (not much but she is not the same "almost perfect ami" and remember she loves to study so this may be quite a problem for her , you could show how she is over straining herself , and because of her mother being a doctor you may also put some drugs into this (not serious drugs but medicines that enable to work for execive periods of time etc.) Rei - Come on! leaving alone in the temple with perverted grandfather is not exactly great childhood , at the beginning showing her as quick tempered but also really mean person could be good you could show how she is downright hostile to people she meets. Minako - she wants to be an idol , which is nothing bad , but you could show the darker sides of it , maybe when she goes to a party she shouldn't go or using some heavy make up to cover young age etc. Generally when you think about it they are so completly different that without usagi being "glue" of this group it would fall apart quickly . Edited by Tristan, Dec 7 2009, 04:17 AM.
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| Chains Of Fate | Dec 7 2009, 04:05 PM Post #3 |
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Great ideas, Tristan! ^^ That's the kind of thing I'm looking for. Ami will have plenty of drama with her transformation into Fortuna (The game's version of Dark Mercury) which will be a lot deeper and much more emotional than it was in PGSM. Ami's repressed thoughts and feelings are at the core of this transformation. It's not just an attempt by the enemy to make one of them evil, Metallia's dark energy only fuels Ami's fire, allowing her repressed thoughts and feelings to materialize and take form. Thought I'd throw this out there to get you guys a little more excited. But along with what you said, Tristan, I do like the idea of Ami becoming addicted to some kind of pill in order to stay on top of her studies, pushing herself. I do have Rei pretty hostile when it comes to making friends. She in the manga and live action both has trust issues so that's perfectly justifiable. I thought about maybe having her have a slight mental problem where when she gets really angry she kind of goes off and is unable to control herself a bit. Kind of amplifying her temper thing a bit. This could be why she has little friends, no one is compassionate or cares that its a problem she can't control. Makoto is definitely a great candidate for flaws. Being abandoned by people all her life (be it by choice or their death) and that alone will mess you up a little. XD She faces a lot of stress. A few months ago I thought up a really great plot element to add to her story to kind of help her relate to Rei a little more, and it will create some cool situations I think. It puts someone in her life that only helps shape her opinion that you can't trust anyone. I don't think she ever actually got into trouble for fights in the anime or manga, that was just a rumor about her. But she could have a problem with fighting, or maybe she's one of those kids who gets in trouble for fighting when she isn't the one who instigated the fight and was only defending herself. Minako could certainly have some dramatic situations arise from her desire to be an idol, but those won't come in until a little later as she gets older. I think that her bossiness should put her at odds with the others at first. She would realistically come across as cold and only caring about the mission and not her friends. |
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| Tristan | Dec 7 2009, 04:25 PM Post #4 |
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Hmm... Well I think that if by "loosing control " you mean shouting screaming and bashing :-) than I think this should be rather Minako's domain (she is really emotional afterall) Rei seems like a person who (when angered) will try to hit the hardest , attack any weakness she see in person, hmmm... how shall i put it to be understand correctly , ussually when you are arguing there are "rules of engagment" you do not escalate conflict , if you know that your friend for example has weight issues (is very touchy on the subject) then you won't call him "Fat lousy pig" even during heated argument, there are however persons who don't respect any terms and rei seems like that kind of person , that is why she may have troubles making friends after all if you escalate every single conflict from scirmish to World war 3 it is hard to "let go" and still be friends, so I would say that she looses control in term "can't stop arguing until winning " |
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| Chains Of Fate | Dec 7 2009, 04:32 PM Post #5 |
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That's very true. Rei could care less about what people think of her, so she does not understand why calling out someone's flaws would drive them into a state of sadness/depression. Rei likes for people to be straightforward with her and so she acts that way with everyone else. She is definitely the type to argue until she wins, thus her "passion." I could see Minako having fits in order to get her point across in dire situations. |
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| Tristan | Dec 7 2009, 04:41 PM Post #6 |
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After all things I read i can only said that I am dying from anticipation :-) And yup thats what i ment about Minako precisly! And I really think you should put some serious weight on makoto's fighting thing , when you live alone and have no one to turn to , all this sadness and feeling of loneliness can easily turn to aggresion , you know "I will hate you first" kind of thing , especially she really is predestined to that thanks to her fighting skills and general strenght , maybe you could show her as an outsider who come to yet another school being 100% sure that this won't be last one , maybe even associating with some kind of bad company and thanks to usagi , in time she comes to terms with her life and shows more gentle side . Edited by Tristan, Dec 7 2009, 04:50 PM.
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| Chains Of Fate | Dec 7 2009, 04:53 PM Post #7 |
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Based on her development in PGSM, I think that Makoto moreso tries to put up the facade that she is mentally and physically tough, but beneath that she is a gentle soul who loves cutesy things and loves to cook, and loves plants and nature. Maybe she even puts up that facade in order to keep people away. But because of her true nature, she is always vulnerable to letting people in because she doesn't like to be alone; she just doesn't like getting hurt, either. I definitely agree that it is through Usagi that Makoto learns that she doesn't have to put up a facade of what people think of her (being a bully, being boyish, etc.) she can be herself and actually put trust in people without being let down. |
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| Fluffalubigus | Dec 7 2009, 06:05 PM Post #8 |
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That's a difficult one. >>; Realistic issues would be interesting, but it seems like they could also ruin the characters. I like what you have with what you call Fortuna, where Mercury's darker form reveals her darker side. It'd be awesome if the other Soldiers had a darker, more realistic form in the game, too. However, beyond a darker form, I'd be against these things being more common in the game. Sailor Moon is still a Magical Girl anime and manga, which means the characters' innocence is important to the more upbeat style that Sailor Moon typically has. Like with Makoto. Her having deeper issues when the trio first encounters her would be more realistic and more interesting, but all throughout the series, there's a focus on how Usagi brings everyone together and how true friendship pretty much saves them from themselves. I wouldn't want a kleptomaniac Makoto throughout the series, but focuses on loneliness and perhaps an almost-suicide could be interesting if done VERY moderately. I'm all for the Soldiers getting alternate forms similar to "Fortuna," but totally against such huge problems throughout the entire series. It would ruin the charm and it would ruin a huge plot point. :c |
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| Chains Of Fate | Dec 7 2009, 06:22 PM Post #9 |
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It's true that Sailor Moon is a magical girl genre, but I have to disagree with you and say that it is far from a bubbly one. Look at the manga and PGSM---the story is saturated with personal problems and inner drama. They're somewhat dark and not all that innocent. The game is not going to be gloomy and focus around the characters' problems the entire time; these inner struggles of the characters are just problems that they have to overcome. It is through friendship and love that they learn to overcome whatever problems they face, and therein lies the beauty of it all. Ami's "dark side" is a very special case. Repeated on the other characters it would take away from it happening to her. I hope that makes sense. The game won't be a big depressing drama fest, but beneath the cracks of innocence, there will be deep personal issues the characters must face and overcome. That's what a good story is about. Its characters growing and learning from their experiences and relationships. |
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| Fluffalubigus | Dec 7 2009, 06:26 PM Post #10 |
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Sailor Moon has its dramatic moments, but it has a lot of bubblier ones, too. D: As long as the game doesn't turn it depressing or exclude the happier charm that the series often has, then do what you will. xD |
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| Chains Of Fate | Dec 7 2009, 06:30 PM Post #11 |
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Of course. XD The game definitely has its funny moments. (At least, I hope so.) Like I said, the dramatic aspect of the game is only one part, one side. The characters Kuri and Yumiko (the random classmates from the anime/manga that seem closer to Usagi/Naru than the others) have been given actual personalties that I think help give the beginning a little extra flair compared to the other versions. For one. XD |
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| Fluffalubigus | Dec 7 2009, 06:38 PM Post #12 |
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LOL I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THOSE TWO. It'd definitely be interesting to see more realism in them. It was like they were a group of friends that randomly disbanded without any care in the world. Seems like they would've at least showed some jealousy. |
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| Chains Of Fate | Dec 7 2009, 06:48 PM Post #13 |
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This is exactly the kind of realism I want in the game. XD I don't want any NPC left by the wayside. Of course they can't always be in focus, but how can a series focus on friendships when friends disappear and go to the backburner for several seasons with no explanation? >.> Yumiko is a boy crazy flirt/source of gossip and Kuri is a self conscious girl with a food obsession. Writes itself. XD |
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| Fluffalubigus | Dec 7 2009, 06:55 PM Post #14 |
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Very nice. Alright, then I change my opinion. I was under the impression that you were just referring to a flurry of a huge, over-dramatic issues. |
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| Chains Of Fate | Dec 7 2009, 07:03 PM Post #15 |
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Not at all. The drama will also be very spread out so like a million things are not happening at once. And of course it will be broken up by the fluffier (pun intended XD) moments. It should all flow pretty nicely. |
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But along with what you said, Tristan, I do like the idea of Ami becoming addicted to some kind of pill in order to stay on top of her studies, pushing herself.

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