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Sailor Soldier Changes; Speak now or forever hold your peace!
Topic Started: Aug 25 2009, 01:09 AM (2,629 Views)
ArtemisX
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that would be cool for the fighting arena thing, but I think it would just be hella confusing to offer costume changes storyline wise, especially since Chains stated somewhere he is already planning to add some special armors that already change their suits some.

With ultimate allience you're pulling all of the hero's in with their stories explained, so using the old costumes is not something out of the ordinary, here you're telling the story from the start and changing their costumes is pretty intertwined with the story in many cases.
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Chains Of Fate
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I agree. That would definitely be too much work. There has to be consistency and there are story reasons for the costume changes so it all makes sense.

I had the thought of the Inners calling themselves Soldiers at first and then Guardians after they discover Serenity's identity. So that could accompany the wardrobe change.
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flamesoul32
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VenusPose I always liked how the live action used the term guardians instead of soldiers. It just sounded better to me for some reason.

I also love the idea of contrasting their duties of fighting the dark kingdom and protecting their princess by changing the terms once they find out who the princess is.

Also it could prove interesting if when the outers appear they are still calling themselves soldiers...
Edited by flamesoul32, Sep 13 2009, 09:59 AM.
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Hermes
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Do I have to say you guys are GENIUS? JupiterBlush

What Artemis suggested is simply brilliant! I love the idea of the girls wearing their original concept uniforms, and once Serenity's identity is unveiled, reverting them to the canon ones (of course, still keeping the little dinstinctive features from the manga).

It actually makes perfect sense, avoids problems regarding future upgrades, and adds a special touch to the game from the very beggining. Great, great!

Anyway, one thing comes to mind (which I already thought of): maybe, just in order to keep a normal story development both script-wise and "visually", some events should be added in between Venus joining the group and Usagi awakening as Serenity. Pretty much like what they did in the Live Action series, with Venus pretending to be the princess for a longer time, which I personally liked.
That way, besides making the game more realistic in that sense, these very cool uniforms would be shown for a decent playtime and not just as a mere anecdote. I know it's just a tiny aspect of the whole plot, but I find this kind of details being of big importance.

Most probably Chains already though about this, though... UsagiLaugh
Edited by Hermes, Sep 24 2009, 12:09 PM.
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ArtemisX
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I like the idea of them keeping them if the Princess Venus Concept is used.

Also cause I thought obviously Venus would have her canon Outfit by the time she reaches the girls, having dropped her Sailor V suit once she got her memories back, so that way, from the get go, she would be different in appearance from the other Senshi for a time too.
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Circe
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These ideas being thrown around are really exciting. VenusPose
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Chains Of Fate
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The Princess Venus concept is being used, but in a different way, she'll never refer to herself as Princess Venus (which was dumb, in my opinion, because why would Princess Venus be Princess of the Moon? >.> ) she will instead simply refer to herself as Princess Serenity. This identity will have a special original "Sailor Soldier"-type outfit though. (As opposed to some minor changes to her Venus outfit)

And yep Hermes, the plot is being extended between the times where Venus poses as Princess Serenity and the true Serenity is unveiled. It gives time to not throw too much at you at once and Usagi especially is troubled by her increasingly vivid nightmares hinting at the truth. And blah blah blah. XD
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MichiruKaiou
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I like all the masks but Jupiter's doesn't seem right to me JupiterConfused

(talking about masks on the other posts)
Edited by MichiruKaiou, Sep 14 2009, 10:32 AM.
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Rumn-Snuffles
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Wooh! Great ideas, guys... I love it all!

Just wanted to say, I'm glad that they'll change to normal outfits before Chibi-usa and the outers come.... because it would suck if the inners had special outfits and the outers didn't.... (although Uranus first appears in a tuxxie outfit in the manga... quite mysteriously) but you've totally taken care of that!

So I can't wait to see these outfits in action, it'll be great JupiterBlush
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Cloud
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I like the new idea, but please, cut away the masks as soon as the true princess thing is revealed.

Hope to not sound annoying, but I dislike masks.... LunaDown

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flamesoul32
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Sep 12 2009, 12:28 PM
For the sake of example, this is what the Soldiers would look like if they followed their original concept designs: (Excluding Sailor Moon)

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...This is a little weird but what is the dark green on Jupiter's shoulders? I just noticed it and I couldn't figure out why she had two different shades of green to begin with.

The other question I had is why is her suit such a light green to begin with? Was it like that in the original artwork and I am just ignorant or is it a change made by Chains?

Sailor_Jupiter_Transform JupiterConfused

As a note I really prefer the dark green but the lighter green works...although the random shoulder things have to go...unless there actually is a reason for them.

@Cloud: Your not annoying. Although I will say that the mask's grew on me so...
Edited by flamesoul32, Sep 14 2009, 10:01 PM.
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ArtemisX
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http://www.soul-hunter.com/sailormoon/manga/materials/002.jpg

This is how the design looks, so that's actually the cape thingy they all have and one of the things that the original designs have is the use of more than just selected colors, as Chains said, Naoko was forced to make a simpler design. I don't think it actually looks bad here, but maybe it can be made to resemble more the lenght of the other cape things (does that have a name, I don't think it's a cape, but I don't know what else to call it)

And as far as the green tone goes that always baffled me too, but light green and dark green seemed to be both acceptable as far as coloring goes for Jupiter. However, by the end, Jupiter (As far as colored covers I've seen) seems to stay light green and it's a lot better visually as far as the game would go I think.

which is likely why pretty much all sailor moon games keep her in her light green tones. with the exception of one or two, I believe
Edited by ArtemisX, Sep 14 2009, 10:23 PM.
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Chains Of Fate
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Don't worry, those sprites will undergo some tweaking. Jeanine had made them awhile ago when they were just going to be special cameo armors and I tweaked them into the new style, but a few more changes need to be made. I'm probably going to make Rei's visor clear since I don't think the color filter works well over her eyes. Her armor also needs to be tweaked a bit as all of them do.

The idea right now is just to get the okay to go ahead with the original concept outfits until the princess is unveiled. Once that's done the finalization of the sprites will follow suit.
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Sep 14 2009, 10:24 PM
The idea right now is just to get the okay to go ahead with the original concept outfits until the princess is unveiled. Once that's done the finalization of the sprites will follow suit.
I really like this idea~
The concept fuku sprites look really good, and I'm all for it!
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flamesoul32
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Sep 14 2009, 10:24 PM
The idea right now is just to get the okay to go ahead with the original concept outfits until the princess is unveiled. Once that's done the finalization of the sprites will follow suit.
I think most people agree with this...It has my vote anyway. VenusPose
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