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Batman: Arkham Knight; For: PS4, XBone, & PC
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Jun 23 2015, 04:27 PM


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It's MKX all over again. The PC port was outsourced to other company and it was a total mess at launch.
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Wow . . . I didn't see that coming. I'm legitimately shocked that occurred the way it did, even shaken.

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RPGZero
Jun 23 2015, 04:27 PM
AAA developers not caring about the PC version?

The sky is blue and blood is red.
it's embarassing really considering how close to PC the current set of consoles are that they let it end up so bad.

even the japanese are churning out good PC ports these days. but aaa devs are embarrassing in general for a host of reasons.
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Picked this up yesterday, though I haven't sank too much time into it just yet. Already loving it, though. =D

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Jun 23 2015, 07:39 PM
it's embarassing really considering how close to PC the current set of consoles are that they let it end up so bad.

even the japanese are churning out good PC ports these days. but aaa devs are embarrassing in general for a host of reasons.
It stinks that they didn't get it right on the first go, but surely someone could just mod it into obedience ala the Dark Souls PC ports?
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Jun 23 2015, 07:39 PM
it's embarassing really considering how close to PC the current set of consoles are that they let it end up so bad.
According to tech wizards, the big controversy of this generation is how behind this gen is and that it launched with underpowered consoles. The fact that these new machines can barely run 1080p and 60 fps at the same time is the most notable embarrassment this time around. Even Arkham Knight when originally announced was supposed to be 60 fps for PS4 but at the end of the day, it just couldn't handle it.

While no one wants to admit it, this may be a short console generation. Maybe not as short as Gen 4 with the SNES, but it may be only a little longer than that.

On the topic of the game, I love all of the references to The Gray Ghost from BTAS. That was one of my favorite episodes of the series and thematically, it fits within the context of the game to have posters of him in quite a few places.
Edited by RPGZero, Jun 24 2015, 04:14 AM.
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Hobbes: Probably, but modding games without official support is an ordeal. Especially a game like Batman, which from what I understand, has got some serious DRM (which also eats performance, funnily enough).

Besides, it shouldn't be up to the community to make a game run for the company, that was maybe the biggest and most valid complaint about paid mods on Steam.
Edited by Zero EXE, Jun 24 2015, 05:32 AM.
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Jun 24 2015, 04:11 AM
While no one wants to admit it, this may be a short console generation. Maybe not as short as Gen 4 with the SNES, but it may be only a little longer than that.

On the topic of the game, I love all of the references to The Gray Ghost from BTAS. That was one of my favorite episodes of the series and thematically, it fits within the context of the game to have posters of him in quite a few places.
The irony is that the SNES despite being the shortest gen pushed out the greatest games of the era we ever had. Hell, most of them still hold up today.

Also love the Gray Ghost references, HF and I rewatched that episode just last week so we went completely giddy over them.
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http://teamfourstar.com/video/tfs-plays-batman-arkham-knight-1/
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Oh God, this is going to be golden.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/warner-bros-is-suspending-sales-of-batman-arkham-knight-for-pc/

WB is suspending sales of the PC version in order to address the performance issues.
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[–]madjoki 18 points 9 hours ago

2 months is false. It's been worked for around a year.

There's still many QA builds up on steam (password protected, but names are still visible).

https://steamdb.info/app/208650/depots/

Many of these are dated such as:

ZEP-F1_0.05-WBQA-813528-20140725
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I just finished the chain of sidequests "The Perfect Crime". I don't know why I didn't see it coming, but I was pleasantly surprised that the assailant turned out to be . . .

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Screw it someone just spoil me. Who is the Arkhamster Knight?

Chances are I wouldn't even know who he is. Hell, I never knew about who this Oracle person was much less existed till TFS said it yesterday.

......I want playable Gray Ghost. Forget Quin. Ive been hearing her side stuff sucks anyways.
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It's...

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You got to be kidding me, out of.everyone it's really him? I was expecting someone grander...

Also I have no idea who that person is. So spoil me more pls. >_>
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He was . . .

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Edited by RPGZero, Jun 25 2015, 03:11 PM.
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Jun 25 2015, 03:09 PM
He was . . .

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Also, that boss battle. Fucking abysmal. You spend so much time teasing us that these two will eventually go head to head, mano-e-mano, only to instead give us a fucking sniper battle? What a goddamn waste
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Oh so I wasn't too far off :v it's in the family after all.
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I've been watching Batman Arkham Videos' LP, and I've already got a fairly good idea of who the Knight is. I don't want to be told, I'll find out by watching, but we'll see how it goes.
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What a letdown across the board -- that the AK was that person and that the premise was used to such excruciatingly little effect.

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To be fair, the Arkham Knight was whiny and butthurt throughout the entire game. He was never completely serious and from the moment he first meets Batman, he's already whining like a child. That's why me and RGG who own the game were so surprised at first: from the very outset, no matter how strategic he seemed to be, he almost immediately comes off as a babyish hothead.

While I actually think the overall story is really written despite a poor "twist" as I don't believe a single plot twist ruins a narrative, I thought it would have been much more clever if the AK was . . . (Spoilering because it potentially spoils other things)
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Edited by RPGZero, Jun 27 2015, 05:35 PM.
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You're right in that the Knight always seemed like a sore loser and big baby, but I feel like it really ratchets up once you see who it is under the mask.

But I'll agree that your notion sounds pretty cool, Zero. I would have liked to see it play out like that.
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AK was utterly disappointing with the way they treated nightwing. Why does he always have to be the scapegoat? :(
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I beat the game at some point last week. It's time for pros and cons:

Pro: The advances to combat are very welcome. I like the new special moves, such as the exploding batarangs. The air juggle is such a Batman thing to do, and being able to do batclaw -> air launcher -> air juggle was great. Being able to fire your gadget at enemies around someone you're going to dive kick is also pretty neat. New stuff like the ultra stun is fun. I can see why they removed the ability to summon bats as that was pretty overpowered. On top of that, they replaced it with an environmental function which allows you to pick up weapons, throwable objects, as well as take a page out of Sleeping Dogs' playbook with environmental takedowns and even Batmobile assisted takedowns.
Con: The ultra stun has you hold O and its activation is a bit ambiguous. The range in which environmental takedowns work is a little shoddy at times. I feel that the large enemies attack way too fast, out of pace with the rest of the fight. In fact, the pacing can be a little weird at times and I found it awkward to master the combat compared to AC and AO where I felt like some kind of demigod.

Pro: The new gadget, the microphone is a really, really cool idea. I also like how they advanced old tech. The most notable is the hacking device. I rolled my eyes when I saw it return at first because all it did was let you play the hacking minigame. But now, it can hack drones during combat to blind them/turn on their masters/explode, close doors to trap enemies during predator combat, activate machinery to create distractions, etc. The Disruptor also has new functions if you upgrade it, such as causing the guy who can detect your Detective Vision to have his gadgets explode if he tries to use them.
Con: I would have liked at least two more new gadgets. The upgraded old tech is cool, but I want more new stuff!

Pro: The Predator fights with soldiers are the most thrilling with the AK giving orders every time you do something. The soldiers having tech to detect your Detective Vision, control drones, place gun turrets, and have medics that can revive soldiers you've beaten add a new dynamic. I also like the advances to takedowns, such as corner takedowns having extended range since Batman now automatically batclaws an enemy into his cover position. They also did a good job of making sure the Fear takedown system wasn't too overpowered.
Con: Not much to say here. The Predator fights were difficult and that's a good thing.

Pro: THE BATMOBILE! I like how heavy it feels and how they made it really feel like a Batmobile simulator.
Con: They kind of force the Batmobile on you during missions a bit too much. It would have been better if they had limited its puzzle use to sidequests and optional challenges. Also, the controls to make the Batmobile drive on the sides/upside down in a tunnel are crap and they're necessary for a boss fight.

Pro: The way they build the Arkham Knight in gameplay. You first fight him in Batmobile vs. chopper, then Batmobile vs. tank, then Batmobile vs. Giant Digger Monstrosity, then predator boss fight with the AK. On top of that, the AK's orders are always present in the predator fights with soldier sprinkled throughout the game. Most games spend cutscenes building up their final boss. The AK does what I feel an interactive medium should do: execution through gameplay.
Con: The last predator fight could have been better. The Mr. Freeze and Two Face fights began the ideas of a Predator boss fight, Bane managed to have one without feeling like copies of the other two, but the Arkham Knight fight doesn't have much in the way of originality. Also, the Giant Digger Monstrosity fight just plain sucked.

Pro: The sidequest system is vastly superior to anything the other games had. The sidequests also actually feel important in relation to the main campaign and manage to feel significant in their own right at the same time. They're a lot more fun as well. I'm also happy that you get to control Azrael during his sidequest and I love that Nightwing gets some love during his sidequest. My personal favorite is The Perfect Murder as the culprit was a legitimate surprise for me.
Con: I didn't like the last part of the Nightwing sidequest for reasons Se7enSword alluded to. I'm also tired of Riddler challenges. By the time AO came around, this began to feel as tedious as Donkey Kong 64's trinkets. I really wish they would have found a way to shake things up a bit. Honestly, I was hoping Riddler would just be a major villain this time and not the guy who hides collectibles everywhere. Also, AC got me excited for a certain villain and his sidequest ends up lasting a whole 5 minutes.

Pro: I honestly loved the story. Sure, the AK twist could be seen from 5,000 miles away on a foggy day at nighttime with the eyesight of Ray Charles, but thematically, it did work. In fact, it was the strong theming that kept everything together for me. Also, the pace was good as I thought AC's big problem was it's really awkward pacing. Also, the game's other twists worked well, but I can't talk about them due to heavy spoilers, but anyone who has been keeping up probably knows what i'm talking about. The way the game uses material from the The Killing Joke, The Man Who Laughs, and A Death in the Family as either background material or inspiration is brilliant in my opinion. I feel Batman is a far more developed character in this game compared to others. In AC, he feels like a total jerk for the way he treats Robin. Here, it makes complete sense as to why he keeps so many people at arms length and you end up feeling sorry for him.
Con: Again, i'll agree the identity of the AK isn't all that surprising.

In terms of theming, if I had to point out my favorite use of it:
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Con: WHERE ARE MY CHALLENGE MAPS! Seriously, the challenge maps were what I used to master the combat and predator battles in the other games.

Ending Notes

Personally, I would love a Brave and the Bold open world game next. It would never happen, but I would love it, crazy gadgets, team ups, and all.
Edited by RPGZero, Jun 29 2015, 05:27 AM.
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