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Topic Started: Feb 5 2014, 10:22 PM (1,245 Views)
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ねぷは..自由だ!!!

The TV show sounds more like the classic original Sonic western cartoon that was mainly random comedy with no actual story. The GOOD sonic cartoon. Not that one that tried to force a story into a game about pressing right on the D pad. >.>
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The one with Grounder and Scratch? Eh, it was okay for its time but it was really nothing like Sonic. The games, that is.

That's what I liked about the Sonic OVA; it captured the spirit of the Genesis/Mega Drive games.
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What? You can't be tired, you can sleep in the grave.

Man, Buff Slamchest is my nickname for Chris Redfield, otherwise I'd use it for Knuckles.


That said.....aside from the dubstep in the trailer (dear Lord, let that dogshit DIE ALREADY), it looks okay. I mean, I like how Tails looks (especially how it references that he's, you know, a mechanic), Amy is okay, and Sonic is decent. Knuckles....is just weird.
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Arado Balanga
Feb 6 2014, 06:11 PM
aside from the dubstep in the trailer (dear Lord, let that dogshit DIE ALREADY)
Agreed. I can't stand anytime I have to listen to this stuff.
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Ovan
Feb 6 2014, 04:13 PM
The overall problem with this game though, is that Sonic is about speed and is what the fans really want from them. gotta go fast.
The thing is, even though Sonic goes FAST, stages are typically designed to slow you down and lose your momentum with all the assorted direction changes.
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Ovan, This games main story is supposed to be a Two-player Local Co-op affair, and four player online co-op from what I've seen. I'll have to find that link again.
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It suddenly hit me, one of the things that's been bugging me about the change. Sonic's arms are now blue.

Tails has a mini eggman on his face wearing the goggles. And has also seen some shit.

And Eggman is the guy from Despicable Me with a stache.

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I actually noticed Sonic's arms in the promo for the cartoon. It looks kinda odd, but it's not like it wrecks the design.

And I actually don't mind Knuckles looking buff. It makes more sense than the super-strong guy having roughly the same proportions as everyone else.
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Ovan
Feb 6 2014, 04:23 PM
The matched speed thing and multiple characters acting on their own has been done already though back in Sonic Heroes. When Sonic/Shadow/Amy/the ninja lizard thing were in control, the other party members were magically as fast as them.

It would be nice if the other characters would controllable via other players, but I won't get my hopes up.
Sonic Heroes is a special case since it had such a different style. I don't think we can really use it as a means of comparison here.

But even ignoring those scenes, the trailer did go out of its way to show how spontaneous the other characters are and how Knuckles' digging and climbing gameplay which was slow as a snail in the past has been sped up. And Sonic was always shown as going at fast speeds in the trailer. I really see nothing showing generic platforming, other than some of the combat and we really only see a few seconds of that.

I like Sonic's blue arms because it matches with how Tails' arms have always been brown and Knuckles' have always been red.

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aside from the dubstep in the trailer (dear Lord, let that dogshit DIE ALREADY)
I agree with this entirely. On top of that, it just didn't go with the trailer at all.
Edited by RPGZero, Feb 7 2014, 04:48 AM.
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[Arrives late for the party. Feels slowpoke.]

Really, I'm digging the designs for the most part. Sonic's always been a franchise I've enjoyed for the most part (that lull of console games starting with the Dreamcast games and running through Sonic '06 notwithstanding), but I've never really thought of the designs as something that should not be touched. Perhaps because Sonic's design has always been evolving - from the first game, through Sonic 3/and Knuckles through Adventure...where it kinda solidified. Until we got other games changing it up, like Unleashed taking liberties with the designs, and other minor tweaks and changes to the characters throughout the years. Not to mention the comics, which have been as hit-and-miss as you can get sometimes.

Tails, honestly, looks awesome. It looks a lot like what the comics have done at times, and I approve. He's always been utilized as a mechanic/pilot for years (since Sonic 2, if you think about it), but we've not really seen it in his design outside of sometimes wearing goggles. I also dig the tool belt and the longer gloves. Hands-down, the best improvement.
Also, I want to see his attack be "bashing things with a wrench," rather than the "throw boxes of ring-bombs" that Sonic '06 went with. Seriously, WTF.

Knuckles... yeah, he's definitely the biggest change. But I still approve. Knuckles has been a little stagnant in the games for about a decade or so, with the best characterization they could find being "strong guy who's kinda stupid" but looking nothing like it. This... looks like they ran with it, and it could easily be a major improvement. The hand-wraps actually make sense for Knuckles as well, and makes him look like he actually should be punching something in the face, rather than just doing so.
As mentioned in Scorps' pal's quote, it fits what Sonic Team's wanted to do with the guy, rather than just "looked like Red Spiky Sonic."

Amy... honestly, it's not worse than the ridiculous skirt they tossed her in for the Dreamcast era and beyond. This one at least pretends to be clothing someone would choose to wear, and doesn't seem that bad (Of course, though, the furries will have a field day with it). The hammer being kept, though, makes me happy. I did always like the idea of Amy smashing things with her hammer, although the comics made it less "girly" than Sonic Team ever did. Still, this one seemed to change the least, but it still works seeing how she was the only one to really wear clothes in the first place.

Sonic... I'm on the fence about. It's not a huge improvement like Tails, or a moderate one like Knuckles. It's kind of a side-move like Amy, and I think it's more because Sonic's design has always just been "Sonic with shoes" in the past. The scarf works, and if they make it a little longer than it's shown as in that image, it can make for some neat "speed" effects. The wraps on the gloves are a little odd, but considering Sonic tends to vault over things in recent games, it works.

The only thing I'm not as fond of is the shoe-wraps. But if does fit with the "parkour" vibe, and knowing that the head guy from the project is the same guy who helped make Crash Bandicoot and Jak & Daxter, the bandages suddenly make a ton more sense.

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"an overprotective Sonic 'firing' Tails from sidekick status, with Eggman applying to fill said vacant position"

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I love this concept. Imagine if the silver-age Joker tried out for silver-age Robin's spot, and that's the kind of antics I'm dreaming of here. Complete with Eggman deciding to play dual roles, where he's dashing back and forth between being the helpful sidekick and the dreaded dictator while menacing/helping Sonic.
And of course, Sonic would be facepalming over all of this, while Knuckles is somehow taking this deadly seriously. Like "Eggman! Protect the Children! I'm going to go introduce Eggman to my fists!" serious.

Still, I'll have to check out the trailer later, seeing how I'm at work at the moment.
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I like goon Knuckles. Hopefully he adds some pro-wrestling moves to his repitoir.
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That'd be awesome. German Suplexes for everyone!

Having seen some CGI screenshots to go off of, rather than just the basic art from earlier, I'm more positive about all the designs in general now. Sonic still looks a touch off, now more with the "extra small quills" on his head, but it all looks like the designs belong to those characters.

So, yeah. Hope the game doesn't suck.
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Here's another article, which gives us a screenshot showcasing some more characters, including Marine the Raccoon from Sonic Rush Adventure.

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Guess that confirms we'll be seeing characters other than the main four, which is great to hear. It also looks like this is reportedly the largest multicultural initiative for the franchise, and that everyone looks to know what they're doing and what they're dealing with.
Edited by Scorps, Feb 7 2014, 08:52 AM.
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...a beaver who is also a baker. Please let him have a horrific French accent.

Also digging that one Badnik who is a Snake with a robot "hand" at the end of his tail with a robot torso tossed on. That's a nice way to take the "Sonic's animal pals are stuck in robots" idea.
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We're conditioned to hate Sonic at this point because this actually doesn't look too bad.

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Yeah, that's certainly true.

Also, I demand burly Luigi now from Nintendo.
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ねぷは..自由だ!!!

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Feb 6 2014, 04:14 PM
On the Sonic topic, Zechs you'll probably enjoy this LP series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i7WBt9v6yA&list=PL7CA2BA3AD674C3CD
>1 week later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL7CA2BA3AD674C3CD&v=Cn9EK6vL0Eo&feature=player_detailpage#t=250

Fuck, he's right.

S3&K/Doomsday Zone started the worst trend in final bosses ever....
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Pretty much, yeah. The concept for Sonic 3 wasn't bad, but man. It really made a valid excuse for Sega to be lazy.
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ねぷは..自由だ!!!

Overall it was an enjoyable playthrough full of hate and anger. The best kinds of play throughs!

Also,



I admit it, I lost it and laughed at the 35 second mark.
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I can't help but think they look like they belong in a 90s CG TV series of some kind. Maybe DKC, I guess?
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They replaced Tails' VA? Hopefully she's going to be as good as Kate Higgins.

Mike Pollock is awesome as always.
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Feb 6 2014, 11:30 AM
But I don't think I can finish my beer....- Dale


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Super super super late, but why the fuck is your can of beer labeled PEE ?

I knew your taste was bad Zechsy, but that's kind of over the top.
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ねぷは..自由だ!!!

Dumbest character in the history of the franchise. That includes Shadow ver. Shadow the Hedgehog, and maybe even the Werehog.

Edited by Ovan, May 29 2014, 05:13 PM.
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A crazy tinfoil hat wearing hermit with an annoying voice? Sega has still got it!
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May 29 2014, 05:12 PM
That includes Shadow ver. Shadow the Hedgehog
Huh?
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