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Topic Started: Aug 23 2012, 09:21 AM (9,812 Views)
Lowe Gear
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Whee, a DLC character I might actually buy.

And is it me, or is there just no love for the Mii Brawler? Almost every costume they announce is for Gunner and sometimes Swordfighter. I think there's been maybe two for Brawler, tops.
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Might be interested in Ryu, as odd of an inclusion I feel he is.

Roy is absolute trash, however; but considering Roy was only ever relevant in Smash, then I guess it's fitting.
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I don't get why they still feel the need to include Roy. He was shit even in his own game.
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It's in response to fan demand that they bring him back. It was the same reason they brought Lucas back.
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Roy's our boy, etc. Personally, I much would have rather had Chrom, but the Melee fanbase is way too powerful. Is there anyone from the Melee roster missing at this point?
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Jun 13 2015, 06:21 AM
It's in response to fan demand that they bring him back. It was the same reason they brought Lucas back.
Will these same people actually use him, though? Wanting Roy back is fine, but is it more because there are people who actually use him or are they just doing it because he was in Melee and it just feels wrong cutting one character from Melee? Also, the thing that bothers me about all this is, at this point, there are, what, how many sword users repping Fire Emblem? Not only that, Roy being back means the game now has two Marth clones.

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Is there anyone from the Melee roster missing at this point?
Pichu.
Edited by Nova Zero, Jun 13 2015, 08:40 AM.
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I'm excited to see Ryu, and sorta happy to see Roy? 'Joker was the one who always used him, so maybe she might be a bit more excited, haha.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/39pun6/all_info_compiled_regarding_ryu_and_roy_hype_train/

It's legit real
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I figured it was real when they data mined the victory videos, still, can't wait for the official reveal videos, also kinda wishing it wasn't R9y, but gotta cater to the melee fanboys.
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http://www.twitch.tv/crediar

Streaming Lucas, Roy, & Ryu. I never used Roy in Melee, but reactions seem to suggest that he's different than before.
Edited by Lowe Gear, Jun 13 2015, 11:53 AM.
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Jun 13 2015, 01:05 PM
As already mentioned, Roy was brought back due to fan demand; Smash fans are very vocal, especially Melee fans.

Besides, Smash is literally the only time he was ever relevant.

- Terrible game
- Terrible in his own game
- Game wasn't even released outside of Japan
- Game wasn't even liked in Japan
- Was included in Smash before his game was released
- Was even terrible in Smash

Well, it wasn't THAT terrible, but yes, Roy himself sucked ass. Boring protag, shit stats, shit stat growth, shit caps, promotes at the end of the game so you can't even cap him after that, and the only time he's not shit is if he has the Sword of Seals equipped, which is also not very durable at all.

I'm not surprised it's because Smash fanboys were that loud. Although I can probably forgive them if Roy's animations will be similar to how he uses the Sword of Seals in his own game.
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Some folks on GAF are saying in-game load screens have shown tips stating that Ryu can actually be played using traditional street fighter style controls (quarter circle forward, etc) in addition to having a common smash bros move set (up+b). Using street fighter inputs however, allegedly makes him deal out more damage. I'm trying to find a source, but it would be awesome and totally a Sakurai move if this is legit. Grain of salt for now.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=167703311&postcount=1
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Neat. Don't really care much for Lucas or Roy, but I'm totally downloading Ryu.
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I used Roy... as an alt to Marth, of course. And have enjoyed using Ike more now.

And agreed on the points about Roy being crap, after you sum things up. Broken record: would have preferred Lyn, Hector or Nephenee :P

Ryu is a definite "must try", but I don't think I'd lose anything if he was excluded. I think it's a novel inclusion though
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And it's official: all three are available now. Gonna nab Ryu after work tonight.
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Also, trailers.

[utube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aasMMKWXwg[/utube]
>focus attack
>Shin Shoryuken final smash
Heh. I expect the MvC Shinkuu Hadoken.

[utube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz5x8B-Yk5I[/utube]
>Roy's Final Smash is his SoS critical animation
Almost forgiven.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-14/super-smash-bros-confirms-ryu-and-roy-amiibo-for-all-51-fighters/.89261

We're also getting Tekken & Virtual Fighter costumes for DLC.
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58secs into the Roy vid. Freakin' teasing me.

And wasn't that the Shinkuu Hadouken?


I think I'll grab it later as well... it's been a few months since I booted up the Wii U though.

EDIT: apparently Ryu has normal Smash inputs for specials. But if you use his SF inputs, the attacks are stronger
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Roy seems fairly strong here. It's almost sad how much more effort has been put into him than, say, Lucina.

Fukuyama even re-recorded dialogue rather than them re-use dialogue like with Marth.
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Got the collection 2 bundle, played around with Ryu a bit, I have to say he's quite fun.

Also, Fighter Kirby Ryu Edition is adorable.
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Jun 14 2015, 03:39 PM
And wasn't that the Shinkuu Hadouken?


I think I'll grab it later as well... it's been a few months since I booted up the Wii U though.

EDIT: apparently Ryu has normal Smash inputs for specials. But if you use his SF inputs, the attacks are stronger
I was wrong, it's both. His final smash depends on the enemy's distance. He does Shinkuu Hadoken if no one is close; he does Shin Shoryuken if someone's in front of his face.

And yeah, you can do his old command inputs to launch stronger attacks. I feel like all the "skilled" people will probably pick Ryu up now. From what I'm hearing, he plays exactly like he does in Street Fighter: an easy to use but godly character that focuses on combos.
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Watching Maximilian try out Ryu. Seems like your biggest opponent is muscle memory; Max has died several times because he "forgot" he was playing Smash and tried pulling his usual Street Fighter tricks, only to fall off the edge.
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Yeah, I can corroborate that. Well, and the fact that every time I hung off the small platform on Ryu's stage always led to me catapulting myself OVER it.

He's not gonna replace Bowser or Little Mac as my mains, but he's definitely the most interesting of the DLC fighters so far.
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On the other hand, you CAN still pull some SF4 tricks like FADCs. They obviously put a lot of work into making Ryu feel as much like his SF4 incarnation as is possible within an entirely different game engine.
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