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Avengers vs. X-men; Marvel's big comic event of 2012
Topic Started: Dec 6 2011, 10:49 AM (642 Views)
Hobbes	Dec 6 2011, 10:49 AM Post #1
Stuffed Tiger / Philosopher Posts: 8,482 Group: Galactic Federation Member #88 Joined: November 29, 2005	Quote: Avengers vs. X-Men is Marvel's major event series next year, running 12 biweekly issues and featuring five of the industry's most influential writers: Brian Michael Bendis, Jason Aaron, Ed Brubaker, Jonathan Hickman and Matt Fraction. "It's one of those legendary ideas: What if the Avengers fought the X-Men? It doesn't get much easier to describe than that," Brubaker says. Kicking off in a special "zero issue" prologue in March written by Bendis and Aaron, Avengers vs. X-Men begins the next month with an extinction-level event barreling its way toward Earth, namely the cosmic entity of death and rebirth known as the Phoenix Force. It's looking for a new host who will possess all of its power, which may or may not be the mutant teenager Hope Summers. Cyclops, Wolverine, Magneto and the other X-Men want to protect her and prepare her if she's to be the new Phoenix. Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man and their fellow Avengers want her handed over to them so they can figure out what to do with her and keep the world safe from a potentially fiery fate. Suffice it to say, tensions - and fisticuffs - arise. "You've got two populations whose motivations are simple and understandable and defensible," says Axel Alonso, Marvel's editor in chief. "That's part of the beauty of this. You're seeing a story that evolves out of 'What would you do?' " Source: http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/story/2011-12-06/avengers-x-men-marvel-2012-series/51672646/1 And on art duties: Quote: This unprecedented assembly of acclaimed writers is joined by a trio of the industry's superstar artists: John Romita Jr., Olivier Coipel and Adam Kubert. Source: http://marvel.com/news/story/17810/avengers_vs_x-men More details and info can be found in the source links.



Raxtenko	Dec 6 2011, 11:03 AM Post #2
The Maleficent Posts: 16,009 Group: Gertrude Member #98 Joined: December 20, 2005	Fail for Fraction =< But looks like it might be exciting.



ZetaStriker	Dec 6 2011, 01:46 PM Post #3
You Will Be Upgraded Posts: 11,553 Group: Guild Member Member #24 Joined: July 17, 2005	I hope Iron Man gets to be the dick trying to kidnap Hope Summers. I like it when Tony Stark gets to troll the Marvel Universe until its heroes turn on themselves.



Lowe Gear	Dec 6 2011, 01:58 PM Post #4
SPIDERS GONNA SPIDE Posts: 29,653 Group: The Boss Member #4 Joined: July 16, 2005	End result: it goes nowhere because Wolverine and Cyclops are still fighting because Logan's an idiot and Scott's a dick, and Tony gets bored and gets drunk, causing him to misplace Hope. Cue Hope's Day Out.



Raxtenko	Dec 6 2011, 02:06 PM Post #5
The Maleficent Posts: 16,009 Group: Gertrude Member #98 Joined: December 20, 2005	Well. Maybe Cap will be responsible since Bru's writing. Or Wanda will come back and kill Hope.



Arado Balanga	Dec 6 2011, 08:29 PM Post #6
SIE SIND KARTOFFELN UND WIR SIND DIE J�GER Posts: 4,930 Group: Serpent Tail Member #191 Joined: May 13, 2007	But the important question is: Which side will Deadpool be on? And will he take a bullet or a dozen for Hope?



Zero EXE	Dec 6 2011, 08:47 PM Post #7
GURLFRIEND Posts: 5,039 Group: ATX Team Member #3 Joined: July 16, 2005	Deadpool is pretty irrelevant and likely won't have an impact at all, so it's not important which side he's on. =o This looking like an odd event from how things are being set up, but I guess the underlying theme is that the Avengers are butting into what the X-Men would perceive as their problem, when they usually won't give mutants the time of day if the Earth isn't in grave danger. The idea can work, but I haven't read comics in a long time and none of the writers Marvel is pulling out are that great in my opinion, so I'll probably sit on the sidelines for this one.



NurikoBaka	Dec 7 2011, 06:19 PM Post #8
I'm 24 until I say I'm not Posts: 4,991 Group: Guild Member Member #198 Joined: June 4, 2007	Schism and Regenesis wasn't enough, and I bet that most of that stuff will be ignored after the Avengers crossover. So Hope is gonna be the next Phoenix. Sorry, but that is completely expected from all the clues that they have left since Hope was introduced. An Avengers crossover is not needed. (Don't mind me, I'm very anti-"Big universe shattering crossovers that actually do absolutely nothing and could have been done just fine without the crossover.")



NurikoBaka	Dec 21 2011, 07:18 PM Post #9
I'm 24 until I say I'm not Posts: 4,991 Group: Guild Member Member #198 Joined: June 4, 2007	But Avengers:X-Sanction had a pretty good 1st issue so maybe I'll be a little more forgiving on the Avengers/X-Men crossover. Cable even gets to be a protective daddy and kick Cap's ass.



Arado Balanga	Dec 21 2011, 08:33 PM Post #10
SIE SIND KARTOFFELN UND WIR SIND DIE J�GER Posts: 4,930 Group: Serpent Tail Member #191 Joined: May 13, 2007	NurikoBaka Dec 21 2011, 07:18 PM But Avengers:X-Sanction had a pretty good 1st issue so maybe I'll be a little more forgiving on the Avengers/X-Men crossover. Cable even gets to be a protective daddy and kick Cap's ass. It still amazes me how much Cable has changed since he first entered Marvel canon. Back then, he was a stereotypical 90s anti-hero. Now, he's essentially a devoted surrogate father for Hope that will go all-out and then some to protect her.



Arado Balanga	Mar 7 2012, 06:44 PM Post #11
SIE SIND KARTOFFELN UND WIR SIND DIE J�GER Posts: 4,930 Group: Serpent Tail Member #191 Joined: May 13, 2007	http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/03/05/marvels-infinite-comics-at-sxsw/ Guess who's back. Back again.



Lowe Gear	Mar 7 2012, 07:33 PM Post #12
SPIDERS GONNA SPIDE Posts: 29,653 Group: The Boss Member #4 Joined: July 16, 2005	Awesome! Now we just need confirmation for Starlord.



NurikoBaka	Apr 1 2012, 07:23 PM Post #13
I'm 24 until I say I'm not Posts: 4,991 Group: Guild Member Member #198 Joined: June 4, 2007	Hope saved Cable's life by getting rid of the TO virus. Cable is alive again but with no TO virus. Hmmm, not sure I like this...



NewtypeS3	Apr 26 2012, 05:58 AM Post #14
The Rejected Spartan Posts: 11,230 Group: Magical Photography Studio Tour Member #16 Joined: July 17, 2005	Honestly, the "event" hasn't been that bad so far. Indeed, the actual story book is... interesting, at least, and neither side is really in the wrong. I expect that to somehow change - most likely with both sides in the wrong by the end of it and a third option being viable. I am amused, though, at the fact that Cyclops is generally acting like complete douchebag to everyone. A completely justified douchebag, but a douchebag nevertheless. However, I must admit, the REAL star of the crossover is the "AVX Versus" miniseries, running alongside Avengers vs X-Men. Rather than being a "stunning" political commentary, a miniseries following newspaper guys reporting on the unfolding saga or even a collection of smaller stories, Versus is all about one goddamned thing: Who can beat the everloving crap out of whom? The first issue features two fights - Iron Man/Magneto and Thing/Namor. And I have to admit, these fights were damned enjoyable. Seeing Tony Stark basically cheat his way around ol' Eric's magnetism was a joy, and seeing Magneto be a little snarky was also a blast. The fact that the "AvX Fun Facts" keep popping up to add either little tidbits or be extremely snarky (or set up future snark) is also fucking awesome. Meanwhile, Namor v Thing was just plain fun and felt almost ripped from the classic pages of the Fantastic Four. There's less banter in this one, though, as Ben can't really speak while underwater. Doesn't stop him from thinking in wisecracks, though. My personal favorite... Namor: I should have finished you years ago... Ben: Aah, you couldn't finish a book. I dunno why, but it just brought a grin to my face. So yeah. Despite being a "Let's you and us fight" crossover... at least it's a fun read. I don't think I can really complain about that, considering the last summer crossover we had really blew out it's welcome really goddamned fast.



RPGZero	Apr 26 2012, 06:07 AM Post #15
Break only rules created by men, uphold only what is true and everlasting Posts: 3,083 Group: ATX Team Member #135 Joined: July 29, 2006	Curious as to how Stark made his way around Magneto's powers. Explain please?



Lowe Gear	Apr 26 2012, 10:31 AM Post #16
SPIDERS GONNA SPIDE Posts: 29,653 Group: The Boss Member #4 Joined: July 16, 2005	Don't Colossonaut and Rulk go at it, too?



NewtypeS3	Apr 26 2012, 02:09 PM Post #17
The Rejected Spartan Posts: 11,230 Group: Magical Photography Studio Tour Member #16 Joined: July 17, 2005	They do, and Spidey's fighting Colossanaut next issue of AvX Versus as well. Piotr looks roided out as fuck. As for how Tony avoided being MAGNETO'd? Spoiler: click to toggle Carbon Nanotubing made up his armor. Of course, Magneto then made his own suit of armor to fight fire with fire... EDIT Oh, and I just thought of something. There's more than one Nova. Especially more than one human Nova. So while Richard Rider might not be back, that Nova certainly is a Rider... Edited by NewtypeS3, Apr 26 2012, 02:19 PM.



RPGZero	Jun 5 2012, 04:19 AM Post #18
Break only rules created by men, uphold only what is true and everlasting Posts: 3,083 Group: ATX Team Member #135 Joined: July 29, 2006	So, i'm reading this and I have to say, I like it better than the other Marvel storylines because even though the results will end up not mattering at all in the long run, i'm at least having a lot of fun. And regardless of how "serious" you get, superheroes should always be fun. I read some of the other collections while in a bookstore and I feel like they're missing something - one would think a collection of comics that says in big letters "THE HEROIC AGE" would be fun, but with the exception of some space-time hijinks, it's really not. The AvX side-comic definitely is the highlight of this, as it really brings out the fun parts of each combatants' personalities and displays it in full force. Cap vs. Gambit is what I expected it to be. Cap being on the phone with Iron Man trying to have a conversation while Gambit tries his darnest to overcome the odds was interesting. The highlight was defenitely when . . . Spoiler: click to toggle Gambit charged Cap's suit and blew it up, letting Gambit think he won, only for Cap to end his convo with Tony and tell Gambit that he now has his full attention. Edited by RPGZero, Jun 5 2012, 04:20 AM.



NewtypeS3	Jun 13 2012, 03:05 PM Post #19
The Rejected Spartan Posts: 11,230 Group: Magical Photography Studio Tour Member #16 Joined: July 17, 2005	The Cap/Gambit matchup was great, but so was the Collosanaut/Spidey fight. Sure, Spidey didn't win, but it was downright entertaining nevertheless. AvX Versus issue 3 also gave a few fun matchups - Colosanaut vs the Thing and Magik vs the Black Widow. Honestly, I was pulling for Ben Grimm the entire time, but... well, it seems nothing stops the Colossus now. And I kinda figured that Magik would come out on top against a powerless assassin, but hey, the Black Widow held her own. As for the main storyline? It's... different. At the very least, I wasn't expecting... Spoiler: click to toggle Tony Stark creating a supermachine to 'kill' the phoenix force, only to have it diverted into several mutants in the surrounding area. So now we have PhoenixClops, PhoenixFrost, PhoenixNamor, PhoenixColosanaut and PhoenixMagik. Whoops.



Lowe Gear	Jun 14 2012, 09:29 AM Post #20
SPIDERS GONNA SPIDE Posts: 29,653 Group: The Boss Member #4 Joined: July 16, 2005	I love how they keep finding more and more ways to over clock Piotr.



RPGZero	Jul 11 2012, 09:46 AM Post #21
Break only rules created by men, uphold only what is true and everlasting Posts: 3,083 Group: ATX Team Member #135 Joined: July 29, 2006	New issue of AvsX is out. Thor vs. Phoenix Emma was intense. We also got to see what would happen of the hammer ever attempted to take on Emma's diamond form. Daredevil vs. Psylocke was pretty cool, though nothing special. I did love DD's line where he said something akin to, "I guess you guys are going to have us on an island soon", depicting how easy it is for the X-Men to become just like the people they have fought against for so long. Edited by RPGZero, Jul 11 2012, 09:47 AM.



RPGZero	Aug 31 2012, 04:01 AM Post #22
Break only rules created by men, uphold only what is true and everlasting Posts: 3,083 Group: ATX Team Member #135 Joined: July 29, 2006	To paraphrase the latest issue of the AvX side series dedicated to highlighting just the battles: Storm (to Black Panter): You built emergency countermeasures FOR YOUR OWN WIFE?!



Lowe Gear	Aug 31 2012, 07:30 AM Post #23
SPIDERS GONNA SPIDE Posts: 29,653 Group: The Boss Member #4 Joined: July 16, 2005	Well, it IS the Black Panther. Dude's entire schtick is making Batman's "prep time" joke an actual superpower. Remember how Wakanda developed the technology to defeat guns "centuries" ago?



RPGZero	Aug 31 2012, 08:30 AM Post #24
Break only rules created by men, uphold only what is true and everlasting Posts: 3,083 Group: ATX Team Member #135 Joined: July 29, 2006	I know, but that still doesn't make having preparations to make each and every one of your wife's attacks ineffective a real jerk thing to do. Especially when you know the result is that it's just going to result in a fist fight with her. It's just another thing in the list of the things the Avengers have been annoying me with during the latter part of this storyline. I was cool when everyone was being portrayed as jerks, but now that the entire storyline has become Avengers = Good and X-Men (especially the remaining Phoenix users) = EVIL BAD, I really want to see someone punch them in their faces, even though that's just not going to happen at this point.



Lowe Gear	Aug 31 2012, 09:45 AM Post #25
SPIDERS GONNA SPIDE Posts: 29,653 Group: The Boss Member #4 Joined: July 16, 2005	Oh, its an INCREDIBLY jerk thing to do. I was making the comparison as a negative. XD



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