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X-Men Origins: Wolverine; aka Sniktbub: The Movie
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=8149
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In case it hasn't been commented here yet, Wade is Weapon XI. However, given that Ryan Reynolds is a huge fan of the character, I doubt he's going to die at the end, or even stay fucked up. Odds are the combination of powers will cause him to "burn out", which is why that healing factor comes in handy. Plus it has the added benefit of possibly affecting his mind, which as we all know, leads to little yellow balloons.
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It's been mentioned, yes. However, there's also a fair bit of confusion about it due to the different actor.
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http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/x-me...ool-mystery.php

So, basically what I said earlier. Not that I'm 100% convinced that I'm right, but having someone else draw the EXACT same conclusions I did makes me feel somewhat justified in my telling people to calm the fuck down.
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Anyways, fascinating read, but if I may derail here for a moment, I'm pretty excited now that we're getting closer to the release date. I probably didn't say it before but I loved Jackman as Wolverine. Too bad he wasn't shorter it would have been perfect that way. So I'm pretty excited to see him cut loose again. Woo go Jackman.
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Yeah, Jackman is largely the reason I can tolerate the Wolverine character nowadays, since he did such a good job of making him more than just "lol Sniktbub".
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I blame half the writers. Logan was pretty good in other things like Target X I think.
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The "Old Man Logan" story has been pretty good, too.
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Aha so you admit to reading a Wolverine story. Lowe hides the comics in his underwear drawer while telling his family how much eh hates that bacon chewer before going upstairs and reading. With shame.
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Did you miss the part where I said Jackman is why I can tolerate the character now? XD

I've read several Wolverine stories since he took the role, and while most have been crap, a few have been pretty good. Never read this "Target X", though.
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Hush I wanted to make my lame attempt at humour. Target X is the second X-23 mini series. Logan doesn't show up until the last issue where she tries to kill him, but they have a nice talk instead and he convinces her life is worth living. And he doesn't even say, "Bub."
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But does she?
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I just wish that "Old Man Logan" came out a little more frequently. You know, like monthly...
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I don't know what "Old Man Logan" is, but it makes me want to see an X-Men version of Gran Torino starring Wolverine. XD
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Basically "Old Man Logan" is a story set in the future where the villains of the world kick the crap out of all the heroes, killing most of them I believe. Wolverine was "broke inside" and retired to be a farmer named Logan. A blind Hawkeye recruits the old man for a cross country trip that will pay enough to get Logan out of trouble with the local hoodlums. And that's all I'll say cause some spoilers might slip...

EDIT: IIRC, It's being told in the regular monthly book.
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But does she?

No. X-23 is too busy trying to kill him and commit suicide. He doesn't want to fight her and eventually she cuts him up a bunch and rubs dirt into his wounds so they won't heal as quickly and Logan goes down from blood lose. Then she holds on fist up to his throat and one to her own ready to pop the claws and end Weapon X and his legacy for good. Logan's not out though and he pulls her hand away from her throat and holds it saying that only one of them deserves to die. He manages to talk her down then and they have a heart to heart as only Logan and his screwed up family dynamics can.
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http://www.collider.com/entertainment/inte...id/11252/tcid/1

Interview with Ryan Reynolds. He confirms they've had a couple of meetings about the possibility of a Deadpool spin-off, but nothing concrete yet.
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Watched Wolverine, the early version that's floating around. Unfinished special effects aside, my main problems stem from poor placing and erratic character use, so it's definitely an X-Men movie in the vein of the others. Wade's inclusion was a nice touch, but we really didn't see enough of him. He has maybe 4 lines at the start of the movie, which are very Deadpool-esque, then at the end becomes a silent super-mutant just like everyone thought. Which is boring, because not only does it waste Deadpool's potential, but it just isn't as interesting. Ended with Wade being decapitated by Sniktbub, so I'm really not sure if we'll see the spinoff we all wanted. Sure, he's come back from worse in the comics, but given everything they did to him in this movie, it'll be hard to reconcile.
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Basically "Old Man Logan" is a story set in the future where the villains of the world kick the crap out of all the heroes, killing most of them I believe. Wolverine was "broke inside" and retired to be a farmer named Logan. A blind Hawkeye recruits the old man for a cross country trip that will pay enough to get Logan out of trouble with the local hoodlums. And that's all I'll say cause some spoilers might slip...

EDIT: IIRC, It's being told in the regular monthly book.

I'm not big on comics, especially after the Civil War and One More Day dickery, but that sounds awesome.
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It is good, of Wolverine's 3 soon to be 4 series it's probably the best.
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Watched Wolverine, the early version that's floating around. Unfinished special effects aside, my main problems stem from poor placing and erratic character use, so it's definitely an X-Men movie in the vein of the others. Wade's inclusion was a nice touch, but we really didn't see enough of him. He has maybe 4 lines at the start of the movie, which are very Deadpool-esque, then at the end becomes a silent super-mutant just like everyone thought. Which is boring, because not only does it waste Deadpool's potential, but it just isn't as interesting. Ended with Wade being decapitated by Sniktbub, so I'm really not sure if we'll see the spinoff we all wanted. Sure, he's come back from worse in the comics, but given everything they did to him in this movie, it'll be hard to reconcile.

Yeah, I've got to agree. It's a pretty good movie compared to X3 completely, and I'd rank it around X-men and X2 as 'pretty good and entertaining, but not overly fantastic and will slowly piss off fans of the comics.'
I do so wish Ryan got to do more, though.
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Yeah, the thing with Ryan made no sense. It's like they randomly decided to make Deadpool the super-mutant boss at the end, but left his role prior to that as a mere cameo. Why do we care about it then?
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Yeah, that itself was more than a little off. I mean, I like that we got a line about 'finally making him shut up', but it seems like the wrong sort of final boss for a movie, considering Victor would have been a far, far better choice for the guy. Though I admit, it'd be incredibly awkward to try and kill off someone who we know survives till the first movie in the franchise.

Another small qualm, though, is Sabertooth/Victor's characterization. I love that he's the intelligent savage bastard we often know and hate, but how the fuck did he become the growling savage-beast-man in X1 from this? Did Professor X decide to wipe the guy's mind at some point in between? It's almost the 'Big Boss in Metal Gear 2' problem, where Big Boss supposedly told all this fancy shit to Solid Snake in MGS1/2/3/4... but never bothered to mention it in the original games or the remakes we got in 3S. Whoops! But this is, admittedly, incredibly minor compared to the Deadpool complaint.

This all said, it was utterly refreshing to see an awesome rendition of Gambit. I mean, an utterly freaking awesome rendition of Gambit... even if he was only onscreen for about 5 minutes, like ol' Wade.

I seriously doubt we'll get a Deadpool spinoff, though, considering what was done to the poor guy in this movie. Maybe there's a missing scene where his head has magically re-attached to the body and his mouth is fixed (or maybe he GREW A NEW HEAD? <_< ), but at this point... it looks like Deadpool's fate is the same as guys like Colossus and most of the mutants in X3: Potential, squandered miserably.
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He came back from worse in the comics. Didn't he melt down into an ooze and reform his entire body in Cable and Deadpool? So hey, who knows. Maybe he just needs to find and retrieve his head. Back to Wade though, I really wonder why they chose to do with him what they did. I mean, he had so small a role at the movie's start, and his name is only mentioned once while he's on screen. How are people expected to remember who Wade is when his name is mentioned throughout the movie?

But yeah, Gambit was freaking awesome. Got a ton of screentime too; at least as far as this movie is concerned. The black teleporting guy who's name I don't know, on the other hand, was pretty lame and poorly fleshed out.

As for Sabertooth, they should have put a bullet in his head too. He's just way too different from the first X-Men movie. He's good, and he played his role well... but he's too different.

On second thought, now that I think of it, I think Wade melted into a puddle of ooze multiple times over his career, and reformed every time.
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I think the 'Black Teleporting Guy' was supposed to be Maverick from Weapon X... just as horribly changed and mutated as The Phoenix in X3 or Wade in this movie. I also agree that pulling the same trick on Victor would have been awesome - but since they didn't...

And yeah, Wade's come back from far, far worse... but, really, considering they ended him with having his head sliced off, with optic blasts taking out the rest of the nuclear reactor they were fighting on...? It's unlikely.
However, I have heard rumors that Wade gets cancer from the reactor, which is supposed to be 3 Mile Island, which is addressed if he gets a spin off movie. As horribly unscientific as that is and horribly factually wrong, it would at least get Wade to something resembling status quo but still leaves him as a mouthless Bakara-clone...
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