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| Perfect Z | Oct 26 2007, 11:53 AM Post #76 |
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I thought the Super Dino Mode was fairly interesting. In the original Abaranger, it was just an alternate mode shown right in the first episodes, but, in Dino Thunder, it was a power up that they only got after the White Ranger appeared.
I really liked Time Force, and still like it, but my interest for it really dropped after I watched Time Rangers, because TF is basically a censored TR dub with American actors. Only the first and final episodes, as well as the one focused on American merchandising, are really different. In other episodes, camera angle and scripts are basically the same, with minor alterations (like in flashbacks). Anyway, it's still a good series. In the year 3000, every human baby is genetically altered before birth. Mutants, created by failures in those genetic experiments, are the last menace to Earth's peace. Ransik, the last mutant leader, escapes from cryogenic confinement and goes to the past, to face humanity in a battleground where he can win, however, cops from the future, using experimental Ranger technology, go after him. (In spite of the name "Time Force", almost 90% of the series happens in the year 2000). In the past, they're joined by a young man named "Wes", who wants to leave the shadow of his rich father, and, later, "Eric", Wes' childhood friend and rival. Time Force includes scenes like blowing up manned vehicles (without showing the people inside) and the main villain making terrorist threats on Tv. Alex and Eric are also one of the few anti-heroes to have appeared in Power Rangers. Watching it as a standalone, one of the only obvious flaws is the lack of focus on the green, blue and yellow rangers. Even the episodes focused on them don't add much to their background, unlike the episodes focused on other characters. The other one is the inconsistent battle choreography: Japanese scenes: super speed, screen blur, gravity defying movement and many special attacks from their swords. American scenes: small laser guns which fire and explode things, bigger laser guns which do the same and (anime-like) scenes where two blade wielding fighters slash each other, the camera cuts to something else, and one finally falls after a few seconds. |
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| Yoshi6400 | Oct 26 2007, 12:50 PM Post #77 |
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MMPR 1 (Dinos): 6.5/10. It's the series that started it all and my all-time favorite. However, it does have its flaws and I'll rate it accordingly. MMPR 2 (Random Animals): Don't want to rate. Can't really think of how to rate this one at tthe moment. MMPR 3 (Ninjas): 6.5/10. The movie was awesome, despite not being linked to the continuum of the TV series. I believe it was pretty good up until about the last quarter of the series. I really didn't like the Alien Rangers at all. Zeo: 7/10. The Machine Empire storyline was good and there was much improvement over the old series. I didn't really like the design of the original Zeo Megazord, but the new one they got later made up for it. Turbo: 6/10. The first half was bad, really bad. The second half, I enjoyed, especially once they got the Rescue Megazord. Also, it was interesting that the good guys actually LOST in the end for once. In Space: 9/10. The one on the top of my favorites list right next to original MMPR. It's not just saving the Earth anymore. Running plot across all the episodes FTW! Lost Galaxy: 8.5/10. I missed some episodes here and there throught the series, but just like Space, the running plot that went across the episodes made the series solid. Lightspeed Rescue: Can't rate. Have not seen enough of the series to be able to rate it. What I did get to see of it, however, I really enjoyed. Time Force: Can't rate. Have not seen enough of the series to be able to rate it. What I did get to see of it, however, I really enjoyed. The beginning of the series was well thought up and I expected it to lead to an interesting story. I also agree that Quantum Ranger is an ass, but a cool ass. From then on, I haven't really gotten a chance to watch any of the other series since they often ended up playing at 3:00AM on TV. I have seen one episode of Dino Thunder with Tommy in it and I enjoyed it and I've seen one episode of SPD and it was decent as well. |
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| Lowe Gear | Oct 26 2007, 12:56 PM Post #78 |
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My comment on OO is that it TRIES to be one of the more serious Ranger shows, but one or two of the characters inhibit it from actually BEING one. The Blue Ranger is a total goofball, often at the most inopportune times, and the Mercury Ranger tries to go for the whole "alien who doesn't understand Earth customs" thing, but whereas Andros (as opposed to ANDROSS, who is a monkey) from PRiS still managed to come across as a badass the rest of the time, Tyzon seems perpetually laem, unfortunately. To make up for this, the Black Ranger is a wonderfully mercenary-like character, who is constantly battling his baser instincts and natural repulsion to being part of a team, the Yellow Ranger is a total spaz in a surprisingly charming way, and the Pink Ranger being the hyper-intelligent one works really well for the most part. And then, there's Mac, the Red Ranger. What makes him interesting is really the focus on the interplay between him and the others. All the other Rangers are very worldly individuals, while he serves in many ways as the team's Everyman. But unlike most such characters, he manages to rise to the occasion with a perfectly-balanced combination of enthusiasm and common sense that allows him to bring the team together in ways they simply never could on their own. Unlike most of the previous shows (Dino THunder being the notable exception), these Rangers are only a team because Mac helps them be one, and it really shows. That's what makes their growth INTO a team interesting. The recent surprise reveal of Mac being an android has also made for a couple of interesting moments where he's legitimately wondered about what part of him is really him and what part is simply his father's work. However, they haven't done as much with it as I would've liked, either. The story gets marks for the mystery aspects, as well as the way they portray the many groups of villains constantly getting in each others way. However, the biggest flaw comes form the fact that this show hamstrings the very thing it should be touting: the Zords. Boukenger was ALL about Zords in the same way DekaRanger was all about multiple Rangers. However, the fact that the Zord fights have been consistently getting trimmed back more and more causes a lot of this show's punch to be lost as a result. So, while the character interaction and overall storyline are okay, we have progressively LESS Ranger action as a result, which is a real problem to me. |
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Oct 26 2007, 02:00 PM Post #79 |
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Hmm... I'll try to give it another chance, then. But I'll admit that Once a Ranger REALLY didn't leave that good an impresson on me. XD
Oh, I didn't say it wasn't interesting - I was just trying to find a way to describe it that made sense. I really enjoyed how each 'SDM' looked different for each ranger. Usually, it was slight differences, but the White Ranger's SDM was badass incarnate. I should also note that I really do like DT's White Ranger - he's a lot more complete of a character than many other rangers from the past.
I dunno... the movie was ok. However, it really didn't give too much reason to the new abilities - much less making sense in a plot sense. The CGI looked great for the era, but DAMN that Megazord was hit with the fugly tree. Many times. I should note, though, that when the villain is more interesting than the main cast, there is a small problem.
Yeah, I too thought it was refreshing to see the rangers completely fail for once. However, I don't have too many memories of Turbo - and most of the memories come from a distaste of Justin as a whole. I do remember that cop-robot-guy. He was cool. As a side-note, I actually enjoyed the Turbo movie. As awkward as the plot itself was, not to mention that damned troll-furby-thing, the dialogue was a whole lot more organic and the rangers just felt more human. Also, they dropped the fucking annoying 'comedy' sound effects they'd had in the first film... However, they missed a few moments to explain why they really needed the Turbo Powers. For example, Kat winds up dropping into a river off a cliff while morphing into Zeo 1... and the morph is cancelled mid-process, with a pink glow scattering over the water. They could have said her morpher was fried, but didn't. This would have helped if they'd also mentioned that Rocky's Zeo Morpher was somehow tied into his DNA or something - to help further the need for new powers. ...and speaking of Rocky, the way he got written out was just bizarre. He goes from over-kicking at an object inside a boxing ring (and missing said object), to flying over the ropes somehow, to landing on his back and acting like he's in pain. And then he's seen in a neck brace and with some serious life support help a few scenes later. Really, it was just competely random - like the editor had attacked him instead. :lol:
Having seen some more episodes of this series to bring back my recollection, I'd like to add to this... While the ending is still epic, I thought the magical resurrection of Kendrix was just plain stupid in the end of the series, especially after they had to get over her death just over 10 episodes ago. Though TerraVenture crashing on the planet they'd first run into in the first episode was pretty hilarious, I thought. On top of that, the effects budget for this show must have been insane. We continually see the Rangers partially 'power down' by having their helmets vanish through CGI and not to mention some seriously good fights. Hell, something that really impressed me was the fact that the Red Ranger (Leo, IIRC) actually could be seen through the helmet after the final battle. Not because it was a new see-through visor, but because the helmet was fucking broken. Things like this really helped improve the connection between the Japanese and American footage - way more so than earlier shows. Though swordfighting always gets a plus from me - and all the Rangers had swords this time around.
Good to see I'm not alone on that. Also, his Q-Rex was badass - like DRAGONZORD level badass.
I do recommend checking both out if you can. SPD as a whole felt better in terms of being Rangers, while I felt Dino Thunder had better writing as a whole. Either way, both shows are easily worth looking out for. |
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| Yoshi6400 | Oct 26 2007, 02:07 PM Post #80 |
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I remember that! Wasn't that the only time a helmet has ever been broken in Power Rangers?
Too bad the toy was ridden with motorized gimmicks. If it was a normal transforming toy, I would have picked it up to stand beside my Dragonzord. |
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Oct 26 2007, 02:19 PM Post #81 |
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So far as I know? Yeah. Really speaks for the serious amount of budget the show had, I'm thinking. I mean, not only did we have Leo dragging Bug-Drachina into melee-range with his Battleizer, but then he fired everything he had at point-blank range... AND we got the camera to go through his helmet to see Leo himself shouting out the command to fire. And when it was done? We got this: Posted Image Posted Image And it carried through the end of the episode, too - which really was pretty damned cool. Shame about that Q-Rex toy, though. I'd love to have one of those for myself... if it weren't for the motorized crap. |
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| Lowe Gear | Oct 26 2007, 02:27 PM Post #82 |
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Actually, if memory serves me correct, the Kendrix thing was done partially as a surprise to the other cast members. She had apparently just gone through the first of her serious chemo treatments and was doing better than anyone anticipated, so it was intended to be just as much a way of celebrating her treatment as anything else. |
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Oct 26 2007, 02:33 PM Post #83 |
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Well, that honestly explains a whole lot more - especially why she left. However, at the same time, it doesn't quite work for plot... ...but on the other hand, much of the weaponry in Lost Galaxy was already 'LOL, Magic,' so I guess I shouldn't be too upset. Though I did love how the final battle continued the theme of 'everything gets demolished' by even having the PRiS Space Ship / Zord being demolished to take out Divatox's ship via self-destructing. B) |
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| Yoshi6400 | Oct 26 2007, 02:40 PM Post #84 |
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I just randomly remembered one of my favorite enemies: The Psycho Rangers. |
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| Lowe Gear | Oct 26 2007, 02:41 PM Post #85 |
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It doesn't work for plot, but I'm willing to overlook it as a result of the real-life drama. Besides, like you said...it IS Power Rangers. XD And while I've been really critical of Ninja Storm as a whole, I've grown a bit more accepting of it upon closer comparison to the original. Hurricanger was in many ways just as goofy (right down to the guinea pig), so I don't really mind anymore. I just always thought Lothar was so awesome as a villain...just so long as he didn't open his mouth and reveal what a goofball he actually was. But again, looking at Hurricanger makes it a lot more tolerable. |
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| Yoshi6400 | Oct 26 2007, 02:45 PM Post #86 |
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Speaking of Hurricanger, it has that really catchy theme song. Well, I think it is at least. |
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Oct 26 2007, 02:45 PM Post #87 |
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With myself, my complaints don't focus on the surroundings of Ninja Storm (though they are admittedly goofy), but more on the flatness of the first three rangers. I really wish they'd done more for them, but they were often just... there. On the other hand, we also got Cam the Green Samurai Ranger. And he was pretty damned badass. I didn't mind Lothor being a goofball, though, because he could still be a villain. It was like seeing an old man try to change careers - but in a good way. He was probably one of the better 'silly' elements of the show, really.
Oh, hell yes. I've always liked the 'evil Rangers' idea for a while now - though I felt the A-Squad was much better done in SPD. |
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| Lowe Gear | Oct 26 2007, 03:00 PM Post #88 |
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Incidentally, the reason there was no crossover in Ninja Storm was because it was originally intended to be a sort of reboot of the franchise, with the other Rangers relegated to comic book stories. However, by the end they had decided it was a bad idea and so deliberately did Dino Thunder as a continuation of the constant Ranger timeline. And yes, Cam was awesome. Shame he was the only GENUINELY awesome one. The base three were very generic (though I liked Dustin in my own way, and Torii has gotten better in her multiple repeat appearances), and the Thunder Ninjas were like Green Ranger-lites with none of the "reveling in my evil" charm. What's also fun is to see the girl who goes on to play Kira in Dino Thunder as one of the minion girls in Ninja Storm. XD |
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Oct 26 2007, 03:06 PM Post #89 |
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That explains why Ninja Storm was so odd... not to mention why they were obscure'd up (so to speak) in the 500th episode of the franchise. :lol: And it really is a shame that Cam was stuck with tech support most of the time. He was one of the best characters in the damned show. <_< |
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| Perfect Z | Oct 26 2007, 03:37 PM Post #90 |
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It happens in Time Force too, and it actually is an important event there. |
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| GaoZetaGar | Oct 26 2007, 04:43 PM Post #91 |
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=O Now that you mention it, I do remember that as well. It was how Wes's father discovered that his son was the Red Ranger and also pushed the rivalry between Wes and Eric to a new level ultimately culimating in Eric getting the Quantum Red Powers and becoming a cool ass. |
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Oct 26 2007, 05:21 PM Post #92 |
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Yeah, I was one of those people put off by Turbo. Not just the early episodes, but the movie too. You know how the opening of the Simpsons movie has a gag where Homer mocks the moviegoers for paying to see an extra-long episode of a TV show they could have seen for free? That's pretty much what the Turbo movie felt like to me. And I've been kicking around the idea of actually using a Rangers series in SRWX...or would I get lynched? XD |
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Oct 26 2007, 05:23 PM Post #93 |
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Hey, I'd be down if it was SPD. That one's almost perfect for a SRW. XD |
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| GaoZetaGar | Oct 26 2007, 05:39 PM Post #94 |
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Hell, They even have a combination attack! The Dekabase, Delta Megazord, and the Omega Zord hold up the Swat Megazord and combine all of their energies in one giant blast. So yeah SPD would be a perfect fit. You could also go with Power Rangers in Space and Lost Galaxy. Lights of Orion power up for the Galaxy Megazord would be akin to Mazin Power. |
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| Yoshi6400 | Oct 26 2007, 05:45 PM Post #95 |
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You know what, I think that was one of the few episodes I ended up watching. |
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Oct 26 2007, 05:52 PM Post #96 |
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Of course, if I did include a Ranger series in SRWX, I'd give it the US theme as a default with the Japanese as an alternate... |
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| Lowe Gear | Oct 26 2007, 07:29 PM Post #97 |
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What's sad is the whole reason it was like that was because people didn't like how the first one felt disconnected from the series. <_<
Add MagiRanger in with DekaRanger and I'm there. MagiKing is hands-down my favorite sentai mech ever. Also, another random continuity moment to go along with "Once a Ranger": Thrax refers to his mother and father as weak for having sided with the forces of good. This was confirmed in Mystic Force when the Magic Mother, aka supreme overseer of all magic, was revealed to be the purified Rita Repulsa, who aids the Mystic Force Rangers in destroying the Master once and for all. |
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Oct 26 2007, 07:36 PM Post #98 |
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I actually liked the first movie better. I mean, it's not like I have a problem with a discontinuity movie (see: anything Dragonball). It just felt overall better and more serious than the Turbo movie. I just wish they'd kept the armor-ish costumes. EDIT: Apparently things didn't go so well for Zedd...he's the primary villain in the Super Legends video game, which is set around the time of OO. |
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| Lowe Gear | Oct 26 2007, 07:38 PM Post #99 |
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I liked it, too. Sadly, people decided they preferred it to be more like the TV show. Oh, well.... EDIT: I hope that game ends up being good. |
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Oct 26 2007, 07:42 PM Post #100 |
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Don't think the game's come out yet. Zedd's the main villain of the console versions, while Grumm is the baddie in the DS version. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Rangers:_Super_Legends |
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