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Topic Started: Oct 11 2006, 08:45 AM (5,072 Views)
Liger MKII
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Not amused.

RGG. While I'm okay with Rao assuming Motoko's a Rider, I do not appreciate being bunnyed around like I'm some sort of second rate NPC for your own ego stroking.

Nor do I like that Rao can deduce the existence of JAMPIP through half-assed hints at best.

I like to have fun in RPs too. However when my own posts--not dialogue involving your character mind you but my own POSTS themselves involving information that should NOT be knowledge by any other character aside from my own are being used to your advantage, that is metagaming, that is fucking bullshit, and I don't consider it "having fun".


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She knew already that R was a Rider, because she was a Rider.

That is the EXACT kind of bullshit I'm talking about. To you, RGG, yes! She knew he was Rider because she was a Rider herself. But if you had been paying attention, you would've seen that when actually confront Rao she went on the Motorcycle and what Nimbus was groaning about at the Ramen Stand!
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XR
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I'm sorry you feel that way - even though all I made were shady hints that I suspect you're part of something larger. My character has met with 3 Riders - a drunk, a modified human, and an ALIEN. I don't think it would be all that odd to be paranoid about something larger than the police force backing someone he suspects could be a Rider.

By the way - that's not Bunnying. Quoting Thrawn's rules,
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Bunnying, for those who do not know, is controlling the PCs or named/storyline specific NPCs of another person.
I did not control you, one bit. All that can be said is that I made a poor (in your collective opinions) assumption for my character that your character is a Rider and belongs to something bigger than the police force. "Something bigger" doesn't constitute "That woman belongs to a secret organization called JAMPIP!". I believe that's what discretion is for - stopping where you can.

Lastly, if I can possibly convince any of you, it's hardly ego-stroking when you approach me out of nowhere with a photograph that was taken without MY consent or Thrawn's unless he comes forward to say so, arrest my character, throw him in jail without expecting him to take something back in return. That's bunnying ME. I don't like it as much as you do, but I play with it - not clawing at you.

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Edit/Add: Sorry, that was mis-worded. I meant to say that (OOC) she knew he COULD be a Rider because she was already a Rider AND Nimbus named them Riders. If she was not a Rider, and did not know OF Riders, but heard Nimbus say it, she wouldn't exactly think or react the same way, would she? Conclusively, Rao would have assumed, either way, that she was a Rider.
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Seraphil
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Last I checked, everyone not a Rider never knew a Rider was a Rider until they saw a Rider.


Actually, Mao deduced Motorola was a Rider after seeing her transform, and she also recognized Rider Eclipse fighting against Alpha despite not being a Rider herself. So that doesn't quite hold true anymore.
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Nimbus
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I think Rao was referring to the shows not the RP. I'm not sure though.
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Liger MKII
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Not amused.

Let's go over the arrest:

1. You metagamed Rao INTO the Subway at the SCENE of an accident.

2. Rao left the scene of the accident and was likely spotted by Security Cameras and Witnesses.

3. The Police immediately place an APB and a warrant for arrest on Rao for questioning in regard to 1.

4. When Motoko approached Rao and Nimbus, Nimbus mentioned Kamen Riders out loud. At first, if you were paying attention, Motoko called the both of them otaku and thought nothing else of it.

5. When Rao was arrested, he contacted his bike and supposedly filled an entire police station full of dust. In a charitable act of NOT bunnying, you didn't auto-disable Zhongfu, Motoko, or the CCTV (that's in EVERY police station mind you) who all witnessed Rao wandering around the precinct like he ran the place. It was THERE that Motoko realized that Rao was a Rider thanks to #4, her own experience as a Rider, and happening to be a closet fan of the Kamen Rider series.

6. When Rao placed himself back in his cell and fell asleep, he set himself up to be moved. Especially since Motoko and the Closed-Circuit had proof that he moved himself.

7. Before this all went down, I got Thrawn's permission to drop the hammer on Rao because he saw too that you were metagaming and had to be punished for it. So you can't say I did it without his consent.
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XR
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Seraphil
Nov 22 2006, 11:24 AM
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Last I checked, everyone not a Rider never knew a Rider was a Rider until they saw a Rider.


Actually, Mao deduced Motorola was a Rider after seeing her transform, and she also recognized Rider Eclipse fighting against Alpha despite not being a Rider herself. So that doesn't quite hold true anymore.

My statement is pretty Captain Obvious, you realize? According to it, one wouldn't know A was A until they saw A - that means once they saw A, it would be A. Sorry, blanket statement. Mao knew Motorola was A because she saw her turning into A. I'm not sure of the Eclipse event - was it after Motoko or before? If it's before, then I suppose I would concur with what you are trying to say (ignoring what I wrote).
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Xion Asuka
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"How many times is this now?"

Guys... Can we please drop this? I got a headache reading all this, and I rather not see KR slip into the same stagnation that ensnared @A.
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YES! THANK YOU! Finally! Someone who agreed with me!
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Liger MKII
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Not amused.

In Thrawn I trust.
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XR
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1) My first post states explicitly that I was listening to the RADIO to CHECK on the scene AFTER it had happened. Along with noticing the marks. You assumed directly that my character was actually IN the crime scene. That in itself is bunny. Secondly, he has only been to one crime scene - the factory's.

2) See first post. I played along with it because I suspected it might be Thrawn's doing, but decided you were just bored. I was wrong in that regard.

3) See 1/2. Your actions don't make sense if I haven't been to the crime scene.

4) Until the bike showed up. THEN the interrogation started, which led R to believing M was a Rider too, because he was arrested not because of being a Rider - but being in the crime scene, and he knew it.

5) Dust is supposed to cloud cameras. That was the intention. I guess Thrawn, or you, just didn't like that.

6) Yeah, but the bunnying I'm referring to is waaay before that - I was referring to the photo and arrest.

7) Thanks for finally clearing that up. If you had told in the first place when I asked you via PM, DAYS ago no less, maybe this won't happen.
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Seraphil
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Yeah yeah, whatever.

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They had completely ignored the furrow marks on the ceiling of the tunnel that had struck Rao as suspicious right away. Kai-bloody-fucking-jin.


Regarding 1., how could Rao have known the quoted bit there via just radio? That's not a detail the police noticed because there were no hints to it, so how could Rao have found them without going to check himself?
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XR
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They noticed it, but not thought anything of it. I suppose you could say I bunny'd the police there, but er... that's pushing it.
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Okay, everyone just STOP.

The big problem here is that both sides have a point, but both sides are getting WAY out of hand describing their point. So, in my limited authority, her is what I am gonna say.

1. RGG - You are right, you can assume Motorola's a Rider all you want. You wanna play the deductive character, and that's fine by me. HOWEVER, you're manipulation of NPCs can only afford you so much, so you need to tone down on the sudden realizations somewhat. From what I saw IN THE RP, you had reason to suspect that MAYBE she's a Rider, but just as much reason to think she's just a cop who's been dealing with a bunch of Riders lately (both of which are true). So, for the sake of not pissing off other players, unless she makes a SERIOUS slip-up that allows Rao to figure out with a certainty, Rao shouldn't be able to determine that she's a Rider yet...if for no other reason than game cohesion. Remember, this is a TEAM effort, here. Your Rider's may not be friends, and they can bitch and fight all they want, but the PEOPLE behind said Riders need to be a bit more accomodating.

2. I want no more discussions of people's past actions on this board. You are perfectly free to think whatever you like about someone, but KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. This RP - hell, this whole board - is supposed to be a place where people can get together and ENJOY themselves regardless of things like that. Personal bias is supposed to be checked at the door. You have a problem with someone's behaviour, you tell a mod (or in the case of an RP, a GM). Making attacks on a person's character gets none of us anywhere, and is a large part of why all the crap in @A happened. Diah, you're right: first impressions DO count for a lot, but you should try to give people the benefit of the doubt despite that.

As of now, this issue is closed, and I don't wanna see it brought up by ANYONE. RGG, Thrawn has spoken, as have I, so you know what you need to do. Everyone else, back to your regularly scheduled RP.

*goes back to work*
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Thrawnma
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The scene of the crime hadn't been deserted by the police yet. Rao, I told Liger he could arrest your character since he was violating a crime scene, he was seen by the police, and Kats confirmed the description as being someone who was violating the crime scene of another suspicious incident.

As of right now, in the RPG, you're a prime suspect for the police for these incidents.
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A'ight, here's 2 creations MtCCOU has cooking.

Name: Beta
Real Name: Kinfusa
(Original)Age: 4 (New)Age: 3 weeks
Origin: Used to be nothing more than a family dog, close enough to be considered apart of the family. Made the "mistake" of attacking an MtCCOU member, when intruding upon it's home, giving him a scar. He decided to get his revenge by stealing the dog, and using it to attack what he wanted it to. Sadly, it is nothing more than a weapon...
Discription: About 5'9 in length, and 4'o tall. Weights about 278 lb. It's has a wolf-like face with black and white hair, the black hair streaming down the rest of it's body down to it's tail. It's chest is that of a human, bare and muscular, but with four human arms.
Personality: Nothing more than an attack-dog.....
Abilities:
-Can run at extreme speeds
-Absorbs electricity from any source from a distance.
-Can fire electric streams from mouth varying in size and power
-Body can be charged with electricity for melee attacking
-Can turn into electricity for traveling/electricity
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Name: Tau
Real Name: Yutaka Inoue
(Original)Age: (New)Age: 1 year
Origin: Yutaka Inoue was a widly known killer throughout all of Japan, known best for the bloody scenes he left behind in his wake. He made inner-dealing with MtCCOU in order to purchase a weapon. Before he recieved it, on his last killing spree, he was killed by the police at the scene of the crime.. His people complained to MtCCOU, and they decided to honor their part of the deal, and collected all of the remains....
Discription: 6'8 tall, and weighs about 334 lb. Is put together through the use of MtCCOUs biological and mechanical know-how. Onto of it's neck, is that the head of a mechanical dragon, which holds the real face of Yutaka with the Tau symbol stamped onto his head. The rest of his body is mostly mechanical going down to his feet, which are like that of metal claws. For his arms however, start off at the shoulder joints as human, but going down to where the hands should be, instead are 2 heads. They are the heads of twins, Hirofumi/Hiromusi Karasuma, the last victims of Yutaka, in which he gleefully uses to attack his enemies. Instead of his wrists however, are two slots, which small mechanical arms extend from, to hold his handheld weapons. On his back, are two containers, where the poor souls are used to power most of Tau's weapons.
Personality: Sadstic Killer. Enjoys looking though the pain and misery of others, and has his humanity has been stripped away, that's all he lives for. Hates the police in a blind rage
Abilities:
-Has limited flight abilities to hover/carry heavy frame
-Has eminent strength
-Attracted to hatred/anger/despair, and can use them to recharge his energies, but the trapped souls give him all the energy he needs
-The soul's energy allows him to piece himself back together, due the engineering that attracts the souls together, as without them, he'd crumple up into useless waste
-Eyes: Can fire red beams
Mouth: Fires a more powerful red beam
-Hirofumi-
-Fires blue beam from eyes.
-Freezing beam from mouth.
-Hiromusi-
-Fires blue beams from eyes.
-Firey beam from mouth.
-Soul Tanks-
Knife of Blood: Pulling this knife out from Hirofumi's soul tank, uses it's power to slash and cut enemies, charged with Hirofumi's energy
Bat of Torment: Pulling this bat out from Hiromusi's soul tank, uses it's power to enpower the bat, increasing it's power
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Yoshi6400
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Well, I added a two replies into Episode 2 to kinda enter myself in. How'd I do?
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When is episode 3 starting? >_>
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The plan is Wednesday.
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Nimbus
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Cool! Been waiting for it!
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angry123
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Nimbus, shouldn't your character have been....shocked? He was on the bike at the time it happened, but you have him leaping away as if Beta isn't even there, and nothing happened.
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I'll edit it. I didn't see your post until after I posted.
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Name: Zeta
Real Name: Miroi Kumiko
(Original)Age: 18 (New)Age: 2
Origin: Miroi Kumiko was a regular teenager, dealing with nothing more than people usually deal with at her age, boys, work, schoolwork and the such. She met her special-man however one day, and it was love at first day. From there on in they spent everyday with each other, she was madly in love with him. But it turns out...he didn't feel the same way. One day she caught him having sex with another lady, who would have called herself Miroi's best friend. Heart-Broken and stricken with grief, she went the the old graveyard and killed herself. This same graveyard was send to harbor spirits roaming the earth from pains of their last lives, and MtCCOU then stepped into the scene...
Discription: About 5'5' and weighs about 127 pounds. She has long black hair, fair skin and black eyes. She wears a bluesweat shirt over her her white shirt, and a long dark purple skirt. On her bluesweat shirt, a name tag with her name on it is imprinted. When she is in her kaijin form, she wears some sort of tiara with a black/red eye in the middle of it, and has a black aura about her, which seems to be shaped like some sort of demon or ghost.
Personality: She's quiet and soft-spoken, and looking for someone to love her once again as once knew. She is somewhat aware of that she is posssesed, but powerless to stop it. When transformed, she becomes somewhat more agressive, and tends to judge people, espeically based on their love lives.
Abilities:
-When her name is called out, or under stress, she shifts into her kaijin form
-Can fly, and shift though walls as if she were a ghost.
-Uses spirits to recharge her energies, or power herself up.
-Tiara: If looked straight into, it causes confusion.
-Soul Cleaver: A scythe brought forth from the evil eye upon her head, and some sort of spiriital blade rather than a physical one. It can be used to cut, but anything with any sort of spirit, instead of being cut physically, it attacks their spirit instead.
-Ghost Road: Cutting into the air, slicing open a portal to the other world, she then takes her Soul Cleaver and plays it as if it were a flute, then summoning spirits to attack her enemy
-Black Curse: Chanting a curse upon whom ever she pleases, who ever is struck with it, finds themselves with their ablities less than effective for a while.
-Evil Gate: The Soul Cleaver spins into a circle, and then fires dark magical energy at those in it's path.

Name: Psi
Real Name: Michiru/Akihiro
(Original)Age: 18/18 (New)Age: 6 months
Origin: It was a tragic story, one all over the news, and talked about for a few months even. Two lovers were killed in their home after some gang came in and killed them. The current officers couldn't regonize the footsteps made, and parts of the room were frozen....Regardless, they held hands even in death...The gursome part was that it only half their bodies remain.
Discription: Both 5'6' and weigh about 120 pounds. Michiru has long bright purple hair, and Akihiro has long blonde hair. Both are somehwhat frail, and have light skin. They change their clothes on a daily basis unlike the others. When in kaijin-form, a featureless body. One side is dark as night, and the other is pure as fresh snow.
Personality: Michiru is quite vain, and jealous of anyone who happens to get close to Akihiro, but generally a cheerful person. Akihiro is also a cheerful person, but happens to be overprotective of Michiru
Abilities:
-Combined from makes use of both of their abilities
Akihiro:
-Absorbs light, can emit bright flashes, and can become light
-Arrow That Flies By Day: Fires an arrow of light from fingers, by making the approiate hand motions
-Destruction By Noonday: Causes an explosion of light, destroying mostly anything in a short area
-Holy Light: Fires a beam of light from hands.
Michiru:
-Absorbs darkness, can emit darkness, and can become darkness
-Terror By Night: A darkness flashing from eyes, can strike fear into the stroutest of hearts. Those with strong willpower won't be effected as much
-Pestilence That Walks In Darkness: Summons a bug-like creature from the darkness for attacking, or spreading it's own darkness
-Dark Force: Fires a dark magical energy from hands.

Name: Eta
Real Name: Rina Shinomaru
(Original)Age: 10 (New)Age: 8
Origin: Long ago, there were a few villages on the outskirts of various cities. These people lived in secret, and stayed away from the modern world. They praticed the old ways, and pass on their skills in death. Only when you were older were you allowed to make any content with the outside world. Rina had once caught a glimpse of the city and night, and was amazed by all of the colorful lights. It looked like a wonderful place, why weren't they allowed to go? All the Elders said was no about it, they ever said why. So she went one day she went. And then she was never heard of again........
Discription: Both 5'6' and weigh about 160 pounds. She has an above average figure. She has black hair and bright green eyes. Wears a black gi with matching mask.
Personality: She doesn't have much of a personality anymore. All that she is to do is to complete her tasks quickly and unseen
Abilities:
-Can move extremely quickly.
-Uses various typical hidden weapons
-Uses other various ninja-eqse techiques such as split-imagry, and wood replacing.
-Earth Jutsu: Creates a swirling marsh of dirt and rock with some form of magic under the enemy, to bemuddle them
-Thunder Jutsu: Creates an electrical shock that weakens the body resistances
-Water Jutsu: Fires a stream of water that saps strength from one when struck
-Fire Jutsu: Fires a stream of fire that breaks an enemy's constintration

Name: ?????
Real Name: Omehime Kagami
(Original)Age: 11 (New)Age: ??
Origin: No one knows where she came from. She suddenly appeared on the streets one day by herself, no parents, no siblings, so on the streets she stayed..
Discription: About 3'6'' and weighs about 63 pounds. She has long black hair and apprantly has red eyes. She wears shorts, and a long tattered white shirt.
Personality: Despite living upon the streets, she's quite cheerful, and attempts helping others, despite the help she needs herself
Abilities: She seems to be able to communicate with things that normally can't be spoken to. And she seems to be able to sense certain presences...
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Marik_K
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Home net dead again, probably be gone for most, if not all of this chapter. Hope to get back into the swing of things soon.

Later.
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Sucks to hear it. Good luck to you, Marik.
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Xion Asuka
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"How many times is this now?"

I'm gonna hold off on posting for a bit until later
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