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Kamen Rider NEXT Discussion Topic; The place to make your voice heard
Topic Started: Oct 11 2006, 08:45 AM (5,073 Views)
Liger MKII
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Not amused.

Well, Liger's here to deliver a healthy dose of reality. *Headbutts*
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XR
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Liger MkII used Headbutt!
RaoGaiGar became confused!
RaoGaiGar is confused!
It hurts itself in it's confusion!
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XR
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Double post.

I'm sorry about the erection. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I shouldn't take puns to a new crappy level.
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Nimbus
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RAO IS A CHAR!
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XR
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Wrong.

Knight is a Rao.
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Liger MKII
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Not amused.

Rao isn't going to fool a blind man...
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XR
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The joke is exactly that. But apparently, Nimbus is dumb enough.
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Raxtenko
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Quote:
 
"My name is Zhongfu. Its a pleasure to meet a beautiful lady such as yourself."


Note: Poison Zhongfu's drinks later.
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Torii
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>_>;;
I don't think there will be a need for that.
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Raxtenko
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Awwww....always ruin my fun. Note: be insanely jealous.
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Liger MKII
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Oi! Rao, a request for your consideration:

Stop the Metagaming or else. How the hell would Rao know that...

1. Motoko's part of anything bigger than the Police.

2. She had connection to a satellite network.

Now I know that with a stretch, the first one can be theorized. But Motoko never mentioned to Rao HIMSELF that she was part of any organization OTHER than the Police Department. For all he knew the "Personal Authority" she claimed to have possessed could've been a bold-faced lie, which was how she presented it. She never mentioned any knowledge of the Kaijin, in fact when Rao DID point that out she seemed damned surprised about it. The fairy-tale bullshit? Maybe she could've been alluding to the fact she was a Rider, or she could've been trying to appear to be understanding, to bait Rao into revealing his own identity as one (which eventually worked). She never outright confirmed that she was a Rider to him.

There was no way Rao could've heard Motoko speak to JAMPIP through her watch given that she was in a soundproof room, so all the theorizing about her satellite uplink or her connections to anything outside of her precinct are stock bullshit.
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GaoZetaGar
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RGG, I hate to say this, but he's got a good point. Maybe we should try to hack in something else. Like the police hq computers or not hack at all.
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Thrawnma
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What makes you think a top-secret organization that spans between two political and economic giants (The US and Japan) is gonna be capable of being hacked by anything less than the most state-of-the-art and advanced computers used by a team of some of the best computer coders/programmers/hackers in the world with the appropriate financial and security backing?

Besides, even if you did manage to crack the level 1 security of the computer network, your HDD would fry and you'd have teams of SpecOps on your position in minutes.
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XR
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1) My character taps radios. If your conversations don't go across the air about Riders, it's because it's behind something that can't be filtered by normal means. Simple deduction there. Next point? The only equipment issued for such airwaves is only by something much larger than the police. No mention of it via normal channels means it's issued only to special members - members who can have the authority to trap someone beyond 24 hours inside any police facility in Japan. That's a clear sign you're something bigger. Unless you happened to bluff just because you happened to say... read my character's mind? Isn't that meta-gaming? Hm.

2) Rao assumes Motoko is a Rider too, by "Although you and I both know what's really going on." Why? She was the first and only one to go straight for him at the mention of Riders, and knows about the bike. If that isn't a clear directive (or at least, misdirective), then I don't know what is.

3) The hacking is suggested by an amateur who doesn't know the first thing about how it works. If you noticed, he cringed at the sight of too much technology from before. I 'was' going to make him fail at the hacking, but now that you've gone and made me admit it, it's going to be really... I don't know. Troublesome.
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Torii
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1) Gee, Nimbus more or less screams out "RIDER!" in public, some unmanned bike goes zipping around and somehow kicks up enough dust(in a clean police building somehow) to insure his stealth through the entire building, and Rao goes sneaking around grabbing classified information like he owns the police department. Seems like something fishy's going on. Rao couldn't possibly be considered your average Rider otaku at that point, unless the person questioning him is a retard.

2) Assumes means nothing if he doesn't know shit. See #1 for reasons why Motoko would have been able to toy with the possibility that Rao is a Rider. Not a lot of attempts to be subtle can lead to everyone and their mother seeing through your disguise, man. That's like screaming "OMG HAX" when everyone and their mother knows who Raetsel really is. And it was your choice to have Rao reveal himself.

3) Amateurs probably aren't going to be able to access much other than a "lol, ur blocked by mah firewall" interface of an organization of that magnitude.

In conclusion: Sweet Jesus, stop with the fucking Metagaming, goddammit. You did it even before KRRP. Remember your After Alpha submission? "God of Braves" was it? Jesus Christ, if that's not a 100% Gary Stu material crap, then I'm an illiterate bastard. YOUR CHARACTER IS NOT GOD. YOUR CHARACTER IS NOT MOSES. YOUR CHARACTER IS NOT A WALKING GAMESHARK. He's just a human, for heaven's sake. I certainly don't know what the hell my brother's thinking, just like how Rao shouldn't be able to deduce Motoko is a Rider merely from her referencing a fairy tale.

Either ways, the final call is by thrawn. I'm just stating my opinion as a member of the RP.
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XR
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Jesus, calm down man, you must be frothing at the mouth.

1) And supposedly some policewoman assumes that someone is a Kamen Rider from an otaku screaming "RIDER!!" in public and a programmable motorcycle? Try putting that in perspective. Would you believe for a second (without knowledge that real Riders exist), that some television character is actually walking in your cell?

2) You are judging an assumption made by a character after attempting to sort out directives made by another character towards his identity? What? This has stopped making sense.

3) And that's exactly how it will just end up. What the hell are you still ranting on about?

Bub, that GoB thing? It's a joke. Get over it. I can't believe you're still coming up with that poor excuse of a rebuttal against something over half - wait, three quarters of a year ago? Please, let go of the friggin' past. I can't see how you're going to affect anything by bringing up "Hey! He made a Gary Stu joke 15 years ago! He must be god modding and cheating and game sharking!"

I've left stuff up to Thrawn up till now, and still will, because he makes the calls. He said we got fruited, I get fruited. So what? Are you implying that I'm even trying to do anything other than have fun?
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Torii
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1) Last time I checked, Honda didn't make unmanned motorcycles. So yes, I'd think it'd be pretty suspicious.

2) Still a pretty baseless assumption, as he has little proof, if any, in the first place.

3) I'm just more surprised that the hacker even managed to find the organization in the first place.

Ever hear the phrase "Old habits die hard?" Yeah. That's about all I'm going to say.
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Liger MKII
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Rao's suspicious behavior + Nimbus's loudass mouth + Remote Controlled Motorcycle + Common Sense (Motoko's Experience) = Alright, this guy is clearly a Rider. Better play some mindgames to get him to reveal himself.
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XR
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1) Programmable vehicles aren't uncommon nowadays. You can program some of the new Lexus' to park itself for you, or your GPS to directly feed the steering. Of course, safety issues are abound, but technology isn't that far behind.

2) That's what humans do, right? Assume things? Because if someone hit me in the face, I would sure as hell assume they don't like me.

3) Find what? He hasn't even started. He just asked for the equipment in the hopes he knows what he's doing (obviously, that's not really going to go his way...).

Old habits die hard? I made one sign-up and you judge me for it? Have you been to RP/FF? Have you ever seen my other sign-ups? My RPs? Have you ever seen Averon? Geist? Hiei? Anything I've written before? Please, don't judge me with your narrow standards.
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Torii
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1) I see you failed at counting the number of wheels a car and a motorcycle has. 2=/=4. And last time I checked, that sort of technology wasn't applied to motorcycles, if only because, yannow, they TOPPLE OVER if they're not balanced.

2) Just because she knows of the existance of Riders =/= She is a Rider. Last time I checked, not all characters knowing of the existance of a Kamen Rider was a Rider.

3) *shrug* Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

First impressions mean a lot~
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1) Not really, kick stands help. Plus, velocity helps that whole balancing thing. As long as you're moving, the less likely you're going to fall (unless it's practically touching the ground). 2=/=4, but computer = computer.

2) Last I checked, everyone not a Rider never knew a Rider was a Rider until they saw a Rider. She knew already that R was a Rider, because she was a Rider. Actually, I'm not going to argue on this one. She accused him of being a Rider, he assumed she was a Rider too. What's so hard to live with about that? Does it make you lose weight? Sleep poorly at night? What?

First impressions? Maybe you should suspend your sense of judgment then, if not for me, then for temporary peace? I join RPs not because I enjoy bitching with people over trivial matters (and unless I'm mistaken, this is a prime example), but so I can have fun with my friends (ones which you obviously have no intention of joining, so whatever floats your boat).
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Nimbus
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Calm down you two! It's an RP. We're playing here to have fun. Not to hate each other!
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XR
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I'm relaxed. To the point where my fingers are freezing cold. Damn this weather and my pulled internet. I hate Germany...
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Homeless One
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Yeah diah, ZH joins to be the main character and center of attention, not listen to petty complaints about his meta-gaming. Be more considerate.
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XR
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Thanks, Homes, you're not helping any. Why must you pour fuel when things are dying down? No, don't answer that. It's rhetorical to the point where menstrual cycle doesn't need mentioning. But I just did. Damn.
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