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B210 brakes; any brakes when b210 engine dies out
Topic Started: Feb 23 2007, 05:20 PM (402 Views)
hocngiap
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i had this experience when the engine of my 120y(b210) dies out, the car's brake became less effective, i have to hit the brake real HARD in order to slow the car down(though the brake is not working that much too). so far i never had any dangerous experience with this problem la.. coz i always drive slow and far away frm the cars in front of me.. there's only once that i think it's dangerous and that is when there's heavy rain and going down hill, the car in front of me brakes and my engine dies out at that moment. my dat nearly kisses the car's @ss..

the other thing is the handbrake, i could never get the handbrake fixed. i sent to mechanic to fix it.. they tighten it, change the rear brakes and stuffs. it does turn out a lil better but after 2 days the handbrake become less effective again.

any b210 owner face this problem?
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washabushi
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i'm using B310...
facing the same problem...
give up repairing it...
soon wanna find a new 1...
from servo till the discbrake...
change all..
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sam1741
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first thing,
its common la.. cause the brake need engine vacuum to boost the braking power
so when engine died, no more vacuum (might got some left in the brake servo), so will need extra force from your feet.
every car also the same



second
my damn handbrake.. also never can be fix..
damn one... always cannot eat one.. the handbrake
now with new pad still the same
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abubu
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b310 handbrake all kenot fix wan lar....mine fixed and lasted only a few days....afterthat...same old thing again...sigh
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washabushi
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my brake soft...
must pump...
hand brake...
completely dont haf...
parking masuk gear...
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dreamers_vault
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im now searching for a hbrake cable that match the lengh n custom it...to be as good as wira or honda hbrake..hehe...i will tell u the parts when im done DIY it...hehe...


oow..n also now searching 4 times to change my brakepump to saga brake pump

hocngiap : u have to upgrade to get a better braking...even if u service it..it wont do braking as good as it was...try changing to other brakepump/servo...for a peace of mind after that..or u will juz stuck like the rest...hehe..(me also stuck liao)
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sam1741
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the problem with the handbrake is that
it wont grip
and mine.. when pulling, can feel its hard to pull

dono is it because of the cable or not
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dreamers_vault
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sam1741
Feb 24 2007, 09:53 AM
the problem with the handbrake is that
it wont grip
and mine.. when pulling, can feel its hard to pull

dono is it because of the cable or not

if u already change the cable then its ok..the problem is the "T" splitter at da exle...that's causing the liat or ketat or not grip enuff...


n have u check ur drum? not da brakeshow...the drum...every drum has its diameter, there is a number stating it..n u take ur tape measure it..if the measurement same or more then the number..then its worn out...
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sam1741
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oooh.. i havent change the cable yet..
maybe change it and ask the mech to check the splitter also..

i also not yet check the drum
where is the measurement written at? i wan to check also.. since is easy to take out
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dreamers_vault
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ala..u bukak n u can see number on it..cant remember the location...sumting about 182mm i guess...around that figure...cant remember exactly...if u measure it more than the number written then..u hav to change the drum or...hehe...u can selit washer..save cost

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ocphangaz
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stick, non responsive handbrakes are sign of handbrake cable worned out... last time i asked the costs of replacing it was RM60.. i never changed mine as i usually park with the gear engaged.

hocngiap, if your engine dies when you apply hard braking, you have other thing to worry than your handbrake... you'll need to check your servo, the hose connecting to the manifold and the manifold itself. check for leaks. the brake system works on vaccuum. your manifold gives the vaccuum effect from the piston sucking air. if you apply brake and the engine's RPM drop until it dies, you have a leak in your system. this is dangerous as you also know that the brake won't work without vaccuum,
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washabushi
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wat other situation that can caused the brake soft???
like mine...
i need to pump it...
those one way valve between engine n servo terbalik how???
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hocngiap
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gee.. looks like everyone had the same problem...

there were once i went to check out the brake fluid tubes.. and i found it cracked already, i went to seek for replacement and the mechanic say is ok.. is only the rubber that cracks, it's not leaking... u guys had this problem?

but last time i read the megazine, according to the megazine it says that the b210 was the most fuel effeicient vehicle at that moment.. the problem of the car is the brake 'cap' or wadever... i forgot about it already .. kekeke...

but last time when me mother still using the a12 engine, it was very hard to start in the morning. need to pull the 'choke' thing in order to start the car more easily...

this problem never occur .. after the a15 was planted under the bonnet.. :)
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ocphangaz
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washabushi
Feb 26 2007, 05:58 PM
wat other situation that can caused the brake soft???
like mine...
i need to pump it...
those one way valve between engine n servo terbalik how???

the servo already leaking... there is 2 types of soft...

1... no paddle feel... this is caused by low brake oil or damaged brake hose. this causes the brake system to lose it's capability to retain pressure to push the brake pump's piston. can be also caused by minor servo leakage

2... decreasing paddle... this happen when you try to hold the brake.. you feel the brake paddle getting lower and lower... this is caused by serious leaking diagpharm or servo... or damaged master pump (the place where you put your brake oil)
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washabushi
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i just change the servo...
to 910...
before pasang...
everything seems fine when testing...

the decreasing paddle...
only happen when i press brake n throttle together...
sometimes only...
not always...

but there are no sign of the brake oil level decreasing...
weird...
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