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flame G4 here.
Topic Started: Jul 7 2005, 07:22 PM (2,002 Views)
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im so glad i dont have G4 anymore...
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Because I'm bored...I'm going to do my favorite pass time (besides chatting, gaming, and writing). That's right, it's time for a G4 rant! Today's topic was pointed out by Calamities. The X-Play forums have become much worse than they have been in the past. This is caused by four main elements: bashing/flaming, spamming, grammar/spelling errors, and no word filters. We're about to take a in depth look at each element. Let's do this! *Insert Leroy Jenkins cry*

1. Bashing/ Flaming
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What is bashing and flaming? Bashing and flaming is making fun of someone/something or talking down on it for no reason. This is most common in very biased fanboys/fangirls. These fans feel they must beat down anyone one who stands in their way. They often say that something sucks and not have a reason why they feel that way and try to "own/pwn" other posters. (Owning means totally creming or to humiliate your enemy. Pwn is the l33t or funny geeky way to say own.)

Bashing/ flaming has always been a problem but it has showed its ugly face a lot in the past few days on the forums. People are making "Five Reasons Why (insert game/console) Sucks" threads left and right. I believe that every handheld and console has been bashed in this week alone.

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Some Examples of Bashing/Flaming People:

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Fanboyism:
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2. Spamming
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What is spamming? Spamming is a pointless thread or post with no meaning. This is often done by people who want to try and look important myEdit HTML having a high post count. In order to get that post count, they post random, uniportant, and off topic things. Also people do this is order to try and be funny. However, it overfills the forums and is just plain stupid.

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3. Grammar/Spelling Errors
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I understand that the forums don't have spell check and that not everyone can spell everything or know proper puncutation, but could some people at least try? Typos and other mistakes can mostly be overlooked if there are a few in a posters post but some people just don't care. They quickly type up something and don't even bother to read their post before hitting the summit button nor edit their post. I'm not trying to be picky but if you're new and you're trying to make yourself look good...please try to spell words correctly and use grammar wisely.

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4. No Word Filters
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Roughly a few weeks ago, G4 removed their word filters. Well...most anyway. This now allowed people to use basically any cuss word they wanted and people are over doing it. People hardly us the abbreviations for phrases like "WTF" or "STFU". Instead they freely type out the whole phrase. Posts are filled with unnesessary cuss words. People are starting to leave the forums due to the immature posters who feel that each sentence they post needs 4 cuss words in it.

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G4...how many more mistakes can you make?! I'll be watching for your next one, and I'll catch you and rant about it!
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3. Grammar/Spelling Errors
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I understand that the forums don't have spell check and that not everyone can spell everything or know proper puncutation, but could some people at least try? Typos and other mistakes can mostly be overlooked if there are a few in a posters post but some people just don't care. They quickly type up something and don't even bother to read their post before hitting the summit button nor edit their post. I'm not trying to be picky but if you're new and you're trying to make yourself look good...please try to spell words correctly and use grammar wisely.

You might want to change that word in the 5th line that I Italicized to the correct spelling, lolz.
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122, you are now the Goddess of all that is rant.

*bows*
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122, you are now the Goddess of all that is rant.

*bows*

Awesome!
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Porn in OT is ok now? WTF? how stupid.
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Sep 12 2005, 12:12 PM
Porn in OT is ok now? WTF? how stupid.

Apparently, they want angry parents contacting them.
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Im so glad i made you a mod.
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Sep 12 2005, 12:12 PM
Porn in OT is ok now?  WTF?  how stupid.

Apparently, they want angry parents contacting them.

Has that happened yet?
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Sep 13 2005, 11:39 AM
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Sep 12 2005, 09:03 PM
28th-robber
Sep 12 2005, 12:12 PM
Porn in OT is ok now?  WTF?  how stupid.

Apparently, they want angry parents contacting them.

Has that happened yet?

Don't know yet.
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Im so glad i made you a mod.
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G4's new relaxed rule thing is a joke. Whoever came up with that idea is on some hard stuff.
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I'm going to take a moment and for once, be serious about G4. As some of you know... I rant about the station for fun and laughs but there's nothing funny about what it is I'm about to say. Here it is:

Due to some of G4TV's programing choices...I will probably stop watching the station for I've lost the final drop of respect and tolerance I have for them.

Why am I thinking about leaving the only TV channel I watch? Here is why:

1) Video Game Vixens: VGV is a show dedicated to stereotypical, large-breasted, scantily clad women made out of polygons. Now I understand that you guys out they enjoy a nice sunny beach with a few girls in bikinis but come on! Do you really need a show about some made up girls?

2) Whip Set: A show about cars on a video game channel? I don't see a connection between a Viper and a copy of Halo but that might just be me. I guess the whole "racing" thing of Whip Set goes with a "racing" game even though the show doesn't address that. Oh wait there's more...Whip Set also scantily clad women. There's another strike, G4.

3) Fastlane: G4 had a show about hot girls and a show about cars. So they decided to kill two birds with one stone by combined the two in Fastlane but what does this show have that the others don't? Violence and cops of course! What in the heck does this have to do with games, gadgets, gear, and gigabytes!? You're really starting to slip, G4...you really are.

4) Cinematch- Nocturnal Emissions: It's like Video Game Vixens but in action. Nocturnal Emissions shows gameplay, cut scenes, and trailers from some....not kid friendly games...if you know what I mean.

5) Happy Tree Friends and Friends: Don't get me wrong, I love cute, cuddly animals dying in horrible ways just as much as the next person, but Happy Tree Friends is already on a show. Remember it came to Attack of the Show not too long ago? So why does it have it's own show along with other animated shorts? At least they kind of are game/computer related since most animated shorts are done with flash programs, but still...it is already on a show, why do it again?

6) X-Play Going Down Hill: As some you might have noticed, X-Play just isn't full of laughs anymore or even chuckles for that matter. Their reviews aren't much of reviews anymore. They basically say the game's title, one thing about it, make fun of that thing for 90% of the review, a celebrity head randomly pops up, and then the game gets a score. Their reviews are full of mindless blabbing or some stupid joke that has nothing to do with the game. Then there are the skits or time fillers,as many have come to call them. I do admit, the X-Play crew can act but the skits they do just are a bit entertaining. Most of their skits feel out of place and completely random or worthless such asthe Morgan vs. Tina skit, the RE4 vs. Shining Tears skit, and even the whole robot and monkey episodes. The show has lost their touch and it is showing.

7) Attack of the Show Becoming Preveted and Covers Random Things: I've noticed this roughly throught the show's airings...I might be the only one that has noticed that some of their content does has a sexual theme to it. After all, they did air the "Hot Coffee" mod in action (at least with censors). Also, they seem to cover a few random events like the training mooning... The show was good when it started but it is begining to slowly enter a downward spirl.

8) The Man Show: The Man Show was only on Comedy Centeral but now G4 is bringing to their station. My question is why? It isn't tech related! It's just show about beer and once again, scantily clad women. This is the final straw. I can't take much more of G4.

I'm sure in a guy's point of view...G4 is the best channel on cable but I don't. At least not anymore. I'm really growing sick and tired of G4 making women look like nothing more than sex objects and I'm tired of seeing shows that aren't even related to the stations topic...video games. I might be the only that feels that way, but oh well. If G4 keeps going the way it is, they will lose me as a view by the end of the year if not sooner.
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Good job on the rant steph.
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I heard G4 new Chief Idiot (Better known as the CEO. No its not suppose to be an abbriviation of Chief Idiot) is trying to make G4 lean more on male orriented stuff and less on videogames. I've been a viewer of G4 since 2002 despite that I am a very early 2005 member mainly because I had dial-up and let me say that that is stupid turning a videogame channel to a channel for perverts. And I got a treat from you from what one of the coolest former G4 hosts and the Founder of AGN (All Game Networks, now All Game Interactives), Scott Rubin based on his website.

"I left G4 a year ago because I felt there was no clear vision for the channel and there were too many broken promises made to me and many others.

I believe there should be a network for the game generation, I believe that the people who live and breathe that culture should be instrumental in creating the content and I hope the future is bright for G4 and all the great people that still work there. There are a LOT of great people still there and I wish them the best as they work through this transition."

Its sad to see one of the founders quit because of some broken promises. I'm not going to wish that G4 dies, I only wish they would think twice and go back to the direction they were at originally when they started, to a whole gaming oriented channel full of both strong and positive information about the gaming culture and all the gaming inside joke like Portal and Days of our Sims at G4tv.com.
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I <3 ranting.

From the time I've spent on the XPlay forums (and mind you, I've been there a very long time...) I've seen a lot of crap. And through all the the crap, there was whining, blaming and scapegoats. The talk of n00bs ruining the forums, the talk of moderation being bad, the argument on how the forums used to be better.

It's all a cycle. TTV's XPlay always had bad forums, or least as long as I've been a part of them. Here's a list of problem posters at XPlay, that have always been there, and will probably always be there, as annoying as they may be.

The "n00b"
Almost a year ago, this was the number one complaint about the forums. All the new members. People claimed they were ruining the forums. Not so. Every forum has new members, and none of them really have the new member problem that Xplay had. They see what goes on in the forums when they join, and they try to fit in with the crowd. It happens everywhere. So really, it's the existing members who are to blame, and not the noobies.

The Webbhead
Oh god, where to start. Anyone who ever stepped foot in Morgan's fan thread would instantly understand why Kristen Holt fanclubs are banned on Cheat!. Seriously, those people are creepy. Not all of them, but there is a huge handful of them that I'd advice Morgan to get restraining orders against. They aren't a problem so much anymore, which is amazing, considering that back in the day, the front page was plagued with duplicate Webb love/hate threads.
Examples would be: NickDShultz, Prophet7, BrokenPhreak

The Console Fanboy
They're the new "troublemakers" of the forums. Apparently, anyone with a gaming preference is now evil. Uh...logic? Most of them are reasonably intelligent individuals and have their reasons for choosing one console over another. Not everyone is rich and can afford 3 different $300 machines that all basically do the same thing. They don't bash anything, they just have opinions. Call them "biased" if you will, but they have their loyalties.
Examples would be bacster_3000, ninx, possibly Tommy Tallarico

The Console Tool
Now here is where your problem lies. It's with the person who intentionally tries to start up a fight on the forums and provoke a quote/unquote "console war". Just like the fanboy, they may have opinions and reasons for them, but really, all they're trying to do is cause trouble. And it works....each and every time.
Examples would be NintendoSoldier, Episode666

The VGcats idiot
I'm not really sure on the thought process of these people. Or maybe the search function is broken for everyone else but me. I'm not too sure. We don't need you to post the latest VGcats comic every week. We all have address bars and keyboards, we can check for ourselves if we care. To further this point, we don't need numberous different threads about it either. One is barely tolerable. We don't need ten of them on the first page.
Examples would be royaljared and 1337yoshi

The Spelling/Grammar Nazi
Alright....kids. The Internet is not a 12th grade English class. There are typos, there are misused homophones, and there are missing periods. If it's legible and understandable, let it slide. You don't need to correct every last spelling mistake you come across. When arguing, if someone makes a minor grammar error, and you respond with nothing but proofreading, you lose the arguement. END OF DISCUSSION. The only time someone's spelling should ever be brought into a conversation is if it's completely incoherent or in leet.
There is no example for this, everyone there seems to do it

The Moderator
Ah...Prophet7. You are no Mallys. You are no Squeakachu31. I'll just leave it at that.

The OT Wannabes
It seems to me like a lot of the newer XPlay posters try more and more to act like OT members. DON'T. OT is a mess in itself, and Xplay is getting just as bad. The last thing we need is every thread to contain huge quote chains and "I care" as every other post.
Any OT member who posts at Xplay

The Macros tool
This one kinda goes along with the OT Wannabes. It's a newer problem for Xplay, considering that the TTV Message boards didn't have the ability to let you post pictures in a thread.
If you don't have anything constructive to say, then don't post. And if you still feel the need to post, then say something stupid. Don't post an overused picture that says "pwned" or "owned" or "because you touch yourself at night". Whenever you do that...you autmatically lose the argument, and respect points.
Examples are PFC__Nick, SuperOsiol, royaljared

The Stupid
Now, every forum has these, but G4 in general has them in very large amounts. They're the posters that just need to shut up. Nothing they say makes sense, they contradict themselves, they're easily humiliated, though most of the time, they won't realize it. They're just plain dumb. I personally think it's the programming on G4, and the humour of XPlay that brings them in these huge hoards.
dementedcrabs.....I'm looking at you....

The Spammers
We don't really have an outside spamming problem. JD used to be a problem, but they grew out of it. But not XPlay, no....that would be too much to ask. So, when there's no one to spam, we spam ourselves. You know what I'm talking about. The regular members who go on spamming sprees. Of course this could be easliy remedied with mod attention, but, that won't happen.
Examples would be Xbox15, roxtoyz, homonid, deadgeneralx, Z-Mighty

The Post Whore
Is it just me, or is Xplay full of some of the biggest forum losers ever? But the thing is, they dont' contribute anything useful, they just jack up their posts counts with nonsense posts, and spam. Most of them reach custom in a under a month.
Examples are anyone that has a 2005 joined date, and has over 5k posts.

The Illiterate Internet Dweller
Ever taken the time to write up a nice discussion provoking though that was rather lengthy? Well, if you have, you've run into these. They don't contribute or read your posts, but damn will they ever comment. "I'm not reading that", "Too long", "I care", etc. You're on a forum...Unless you have some sort of software that I've never heard of...you read all the time. So why suddenly become stupid. And once more, why TELL us?!
Examples are Vortex28
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I don't think Tommy is in any way, shape or form, a console fanboy.
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I really have no idea, he just seems like he isn't into Nintendo too much.
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That was a good rant Valkis. BTW, who are you at the G4 forums?
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Oct 11 2005, 02:31 PM
I really have no idea, he just seems like he isn't into Nintendo too much.

Yeah, he doesn't like kiddy games. I don't think that makes him a console fanboy.
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That was a good rant Valkis. BTW, who are you at the G4 forums?

It's a secret. :D
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