Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]


Welcome to 4400 Abductees. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Rate Ep. 4.10: One of Us
Topic Started: Aug 19 2007, 04:50 PM (2,995 Views)
kickcity903
Abducted
[ *  * ]
this episode was one of the best of the season. i wasn't sure who is good and bad.

kyle and shawn..please fight lol . i want to see it.

new tom = awesome. made the show much fresh.
Posted Image
Strawberries Are Stupid
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ranadiel
Omniscient One
[ *  * ]
Quote:
 
So, Kyles ability is just a communicater from the future?

Quite likely.

Quote:
 
Where is Maia? She could have seen this coming. Hello Writers.

She can't see everything and even if she could, that doesn't mean she will understand the context under which the event takes place.

Quote:
 
This "Marked" thing has me wondering about the original Kyle that killed Jordan Collier. Was he Marked? Was that glow orb thing Shawn pulled out of him the other consciousness?

I think that Kyle had a completely different thing other then the marked going on back when he was acting all wierd. If I had to take a guess, I would guess that his promicin ability was half activated when they tried to take him and the end result was the person from the future he tried to communicate with got jumbled up with him instead of just talking with him like Cassie does.

Quote:
 
Lots of questions, but I saw the bad Cassidy coming a mile a way. The OPFTF failed with the Isabelle project, so they tried another tactic... Send Jordan down the wrong path using his faith in Promicin against him.

Actually I don't think their plan has changed that much. I'm thinking that their plan now is to repower Isabelle and then send her into Promise City, somehow under their control, in order to slaughter all the PP that have gathered there. Collier's role in their plans is just to gather up as many PP as he can in order to combat the rapid increase in the PP population.

Quote:
 
* a simple CAT Scan, eh? and exactly how are you going to test people in the 3rd World countries? because I don't think promicin distrobution is going to halt just because you can't find a CAT heading in that direction.

So they just shouln't bother with a solution, the only solution based on what they have so far said short of brain surgery to look at that part of the brain, just because there are parts of the world where the solution won't be likely to be used?

Quote:
 
new tom = awesome. made the show much fresh.

Really? I just found him to be annoying.
Click here if you disagree with me.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dougurasu
Abducted
[ * ]
So... three more episodes to go!
I'm still not convinced that Cassie is from the bad people of the future. I think she can't predict what the bad people from the future are going to do.
Also I think Jordan's comments about how everyone should take the shot is I think pretty much what the good people from the future want. If there ARE other people with no abilities they will probably rise up and in the future become the bad people from the future :P

Also... where the hell is Gabriel Hewitt dammit?!! Maia predicted he would imprison PP people and stuff like that. I want him to return and at least try and finish what he started. A person like that can't just turn good like that... and besides, who the hell messed with Hewitt's brain? It MUST'VE been someone that knew of Maia's prediction-dream, cause else Hewitt would've had a stroke and Shawn wouldn't have had any reasons to heal him. Well... I guess maybe he could've taken the chance to show the public how great a guy he is. But that was the case than Hewitt wouldn't change ANYWAY, because Maia predicted that he would make concentration camps (and if she had shut her mouth about it, it still would've happened). Okay, I'll stop my rambling, I just want Hewitt back. At least let him set up his plans.

Right, so... Lily's return was... okay... I was hoping that they would give her a good send off, but this was okay too :D At least big Isabelle is back and Marked-Tom going to get her abilities back... well, I like it better than when Isabelle was suddenly grown up :P (I thought that was just an excuse for bringing in another character and dropping the whole baby-Isabelle thing), but I like that she really is part of the plot, and I also like that she's part of the plot again :D

Wow, I shouldn't be allowed on these forums again :P I write too much.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Keenir
Member Avatar
Returned
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Ranadiel
Aug 20 2007, 09:31 AM
Quote:
 
* a simple CAT Scan, eh? and exactly how are you going to test people in the 3rd World countries? because I don't think promicin distrobution is going to halt just because you can't find a CAT heading in that direction.


So they just shouln't bother with a solution, the only solution based on what they have so far said short of brain surgery to look at that part of the brain, just because there are parts of the world where the solution won't be likely to be used?


this is a bit of deja vu...

after my dad and I went to see 'The Arrival' we discussed ways to tell the real humans from the aliens camoflaged as humans.

none of the ways* were practical on a global scale.

* = genetic tests; or exposing everyone you walk past with a hotplate or other heat radiator, in the hopes that it will melt the alien's camoflage; or, etc


with Burkhoff's idea, you're using an expensive piece of technology that is not very (if much at all) portable (compare a CAT Scanner with a paper-scanner on your computer)

I can see Burkhoff's solution being applied to the middle- and upper-class in many 1st-World and some 2nd-World nations.

in other places, like North Korea, only the elite would get the test.

...while the poor everywhere would still be stuck with 50-50.
~~~~
My fanfic.net page.
My geocities fanfic page.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dougurasu
Abducted
[ * ]
While that may be true, this is a step in the right direction! However, since Promicin is illegal anyway, I doubt there'll be facilities that will let you make a CAT scan at the hopes of seeing if you're Promicin-applicable (or something) anyway :S

Unless Promicin would become legal just because it doesn't kill anymore, but that would be a very bad decision from the government if I were them. But still, it would at least be a step in the right direction :D The next step would be to make everyone able to use promicin :D
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
bmxgirl
Abducted
[ * ]
yea. I think next week episode going to be good. I hope they it come on next summer for a 5th season
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Fanwoman
Member Avatar
Toxokinetic
[ *  *  * ]
My thoughts as they occurred:

I’ve forgotten to mention—kudos to the makeup people for Tom’s “mole.”

OMG! What?! Oh, that's Tom's Marked's memories, and Tom's just transposing his face on them. Kind of threw me for a loop there for a second. At last, we now know for sure that Isabelle was not part of the original plan, but what was with all the stuff in season one that made her seem to be The Answer? Ah, well.

Boy, he shacks up quick for a guy who’s only been without the supposed woman of his dreams for a few months. :yawn:

Aw! Cute baby Isabelle!

I know we saw it in the previews, but…that is just too weird. What? Isabelle de-aged, so Lily rose from her own ashes? Aw, gee, I hope he doesn’t have to lose her twice! And he still wears the ring!

Go Kevin! Hah! Now what’s Collier’s excuse?

Oh! That is just too creepy! Yeek! That’s some creepy camerawork!

Not like Diana hasn’t covered for you before, Tom!

Poor Lily.

Oh! I bet the new lady’s one of the Marked! Yaa! She is! Don’t listen! Don’t give in, Tom! Ick! Ick! Ick! Run, Tom!

Watching Tom in shifts, she says? And she didn’t offer, “I’ll take evenings”? LOL

No, way. What?! And I thought Collier was supposed to bring hope—and he’s talking like that?! Kill him, Shawn! :angry:

LOL “Oh, Isabelle’s had her moments.”

No, Richard wasn’t always there for her. Will he tell her?

Aw! It’s an ability? I was kind of hoping it wouldn't be. Poor Richard. Poor guy that Kyle is using. Poor Kyle getting strung along by Cassie who’s getting him to do more questionable things.

Yeeeeeee! OMG! Way to go Joel! You can just tell by looking at him! What was that look from Doyle?

So it is the one that was in Ross!

Ah, time for the confession. Knew he couldn’t keep it from her. Ah! Clever of him to think “someone conjured you up for me.” Poor Richard. If this gets him to reverse what he did to Isabelle, then I may have to join the Cassie-is-evil camp.

Humor? In The 4400? From Tom?! That guy said the Marked had no powers, but…Marco saying Tom’s brain is more powerful even in jest? Gosh, please, let it be a joke! If Marked!Tom is in control of Marco and Garrity, I’m gonna cry. Diana’s right—it’s not funny! :angry:

You tell him, Cora!!!

OMG! Cassie is SOOOOOOO EVIL!!! Phooey, I’d liked her.

Yeesh! He so doesn’t want Diana tagging along. My husband wants to know—why doesn’t Maia warn mommy about these things? My answer--because it would be inconvenient to the plot...that and this isn't a Maia nor a Diana episode. You know Diana, shoot first, ask questions later. Yeesh, Tom! Okay…so what did he do to Isabelle? He must want her alive and evil, so where’s he put her?

Yay! Diana suspects Tom! He was creepily touchy-feely with Diana.

Bad sound. No way! Kyle hurt Shawn?! Hopefully that’ll get Kyle to tell Cassie to stuff it. How insidious are the OPFTF that they set up the cult in the past to give Cassie leverage to control Kyle.

How is Tom going to explain Isabelle in his house to Doyle? OMG! Tom wants Collier…doesn’t everyone at some point? Don’t question your manhood, Tom, Collier does that to everyone, regardless of gender.

The scene’s from next week! :hideyes:
[size0]Avatar courtesy of Kristie.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
kickcity903
Abducted
[ *  * ]
i think cassie is gooood

like isabelle needs to get her powers back, so she's letting 'marked' tom do it...and once that happens, cassie will help kyle get her back to the good side..the jordan side
Posted Image
Strawberries Are Stupid
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ranadiel
Omniscient One
[ *  * ]
Quote:
 
I'm still not convinced that Cassie is from the bad people of the future. I think she can't predict what the bad people from the future are going to do.

Considering that she could predict something as random as Isabelle escaping from a prison transport just because of some crazy driver, I think she would be able to predict something as obvious as the marked, and she clearly knows Tom is one of the marked since she knew he would take Isabelle, wanting to use Isabelle to destroy PP.

Quote:
 
I can see Burkhoff's solution being applied to the middle- and upper-class in many 1st-World and some 2nd-World nations.

in other places, like North Korea, only the elite would get the test.

...while the poor everywhere would still be stuck with 50-50.

Once again, so that means he shouldn't try to save any lives because there will be people that he can't save with this method? Frankly, if the size of a part of your brain is what determines if you can be PP then that are really only three ways that they can determine whether you can be PP or not: 1) CAT scan, 2)open up the skull and look inside(likely leads to serious side effects possibly including death) or 3) decode the genome and then check the genes that would determine the size of that brain

The CAT scan really seems like it would be the best out of those options, since the gene sequencing would probably be just as rare in the third world countries you are concerned with. Also if this research begins to actively take off, who is to say that someone like Shawn won't start a foundation to provide funding so that people in third world countries can recieve the CAT scans? That certainly seems like something that Shawn would do.

Quote:
 
While that may be true, this is a step in the right direction! However, since Promicin is illegal anyway, I doubt there'll be facilities that will let you make a CAT scan at the hopes of seeing if you're Promicin-applicable (or something) anyway :S

Unless Promicin would become legal just because it doesn't kill anymore, but that would be a very bad decision from the government if I were them. But still, it would at least be a step in the right direction :D The next step would be to make everyone able to use promicin :D

I think that Shawn's goal is to make the public more willing to accept promicin. While there have been cases like Graham, the primary focus of the public's backlash(as seen in the promicin debate before the season began) against promicin has been against the deaths. The governmentmight be more concerned with the possible powers, but by eliminating the possible side effect of death Shawn can manage to eliminate a large portion of the opisition to promicin. By eliminating that, he makes it actually possible for people who are pro-promicin to get into the government which allows the laws to change.

Quote:
 
At last, we now know for sure that Isabelle was not part of the original plan, but what was with all the stuff in season one that made her seem to be The Answer? Ah, well.

She is the answer....for the OPFTF. Also that migth have originally been referring to her saving the 4400 from the inhibitor, although I'm still trying to figure out why she did that, perhaps it was just that she hadn't been influenced by anyone yet(but then why id she lie to Jordan?).

Quote:
 
i think cassie is gooood

like isabelle needs to get her powers back, so she's letting 'marked' tom do it...and once that happens, cassie will help kyle get her back to the good side..the jordan side

The marked inside of Tom has messed up with Isabelle before, so I doubt he would give her her powers back without some way to control her. He's not running a charity here, he's trying to destroy the PP. He will not make the mistake of not having enough control over Isabelle twice.
Click here if you disagree with me.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
4400fan
Member Avatar
Psychic Therapist
[ *  *  *  * ]
I also think Cassie is good :worship: Cassie, Kyle :nod:
Avatar and signatures done by Leob!!!!
Posted Image
Jacqui McKenzie is the best actress EVER!!!
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Ep. 4.10: One of Us · Next Topic »
Add Reply


Theme designed per request at the ZBTZ