Where did Boyd get his information?

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Is there a Nova Group mole in NTAC?
Absolutely!	2 (25%)
It seems likely.	1 (12.5%)
It's possible.	3 (37.5%)
Nah, I don't think so.	1 (12.5%)
No way!	1 (12.5%)
Total Votes: 8

Where did Boyd get his information?; Didn't he seem to know too much?
Topic Started: Jun 19 2006, 02:30 PM (673 Views)
Fanwoman	Jun 19 2006, 02:30 PM Post #1
Toxokinetic Posts: 368 Group: Abductees Member #255 Joined: June 11, 2006	Boyd knew where TJ Kim was, how to deal with NTAC protocol, knew that Marco could get the video footage (they don't have digital?) and that Diana would trust him so much as to casually share withhim a vital piece of information, knew where to go to get that footage, knew about Alana's past, etc. Now, a lot of that could be explained by Gary Navarro's knowledge of Tom, Diana and NTAC, as well as other resources Nova would have. After all, Tom used Shawn's database. Why couldn't someone helping the Nova Group do the same? Still, there's also the possibility there's someone inside NTAC helping them out. What do you all think?
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Lucidity	Jun 19 2006, 02:42 PM Post #2
Hydrokinetic Posts: 51 Group: Abductees Member #307 Joined: June 15, 2006	I think it's likely that Nova got someone undercover in NTAC, after all they DO have an intense amount of information on them; stuff I would assume is generally kept under lock and key: personal history of the key agents, general knowledge of how everything moves inside the facility (and outside), knowledge of Tom's half-day off... knowledge of Diana and Marco's relationship, where in the facility they kept prisoners, procedure involving visiting and interrogating those prisoners, Alana's connections, where Tom's house was and Alana's gallery was and ... uh... ... That's kinda spooky, actually.



Keenir	Jun 19 2006, 02:54 PM Post #3
Returned Posts: 1,028 Group: Abductees Member #133 Joined: March 10, 2006	Fanwoman Jun 19 2006, 02:30 PM Why couldn't someone helping the Nova Group do the same? Still, there's also the possibility there's someone inside NTAC helping them out. What do you all think? I think that at least 90% of the information came from Gary and Boyd.....who's to say how long Boyd was at work, prior to framing Tom? however, that said, now I have to try to excise that plot bunny from my brain. help! have nice days.
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Fanwoman	Jun 19 2006, 02:54 PM Post #4
Toxokinetic Posts: 368 Group: Abductees Member #255 Joined: June 11, 2006	So you don't think a lot of that could be explained away by all the knowledge Gary Navarro has about Tom, Diana and NTAC? After all, he was working there for several days before they figured out he was leading them astray. Based on his comments, he obviously knew about Tom and Diana's personal lives by then. The day off thing could have been figured out with basic, old-fashioned detective techniques or even a simple stakeout. Also, how easy would it be for a non-shapechanging 4400 to get a job at NTAC? I'd think even the janitors would have security checks run on them before being hired.
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Fanwoman	Jun 19 2006, 03:01 PM Post #5
Toxokinetic Posts: 368 Group: Abductees Member #255 Joined: June 11, 2006	Sorry to double post! Keenir Jun 19 2006, 02:54 PM Fanwoman Jun 19 2006, 02:30 PM Why couldn't someone helping the Nova Group do the same? Still, there's also the possibility there's someone inside NTAC helping them out. What do you all think? I think that at least 90% of the information came from Gary and Boyd.....who's to say how long Boyd was at work, prior to framing Tom? Ooo! I hadn't thought of that! He could have been wandering the halls of NTAC for a while. Okay, but not that you mention it, I took Boyd's ability--and the fact that he wanted the security videos--to be one of making you think you were looking at someone else, as opposed to his physically becoming someone else (Aside from being painful, how would you deal with clothes?). If I'm right in that regard, I'm not sure he would have easy access to NTAC, since we saw numerous times in season 2 that they use thumbprint scanners for security. Although, I suppose you could get Tom's thumbprint easily enough... So many possibilities! :wacko:
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Lucidity	Jun 19 2006, 03:05 PM Post #6
Hydrokinetic Posts: 51 Group: Abductees Member #307 Joined: June 15, 2006	Fanwoman Jun 19 2006, 02:54 PM Also, how easy would it be for a non-shapechanging 4400 to get a job at NTAC? I'd think even the janitors would have security checks run on them before being hired. You have a point (and you're probably right to boot), but still. Who says it has to be a 4400? Nova could simply be using (or paying) a regular person as a mole.... someone who is sympathetic either towards the 4400s or lots and lots of $$$. (I can't imagine the amount that Shawn supplied them with to be any paltry sum, so I think they'd have some cash to throw around for infiltration purposes.



Fanwoman	Jun 19 2006, 03:15 PM Post #7
Toxokinetic Posts: 368 Group: Abductees Member #255 Joined: June 11, 2006	Lucidity Jun 19 2006, 03:05 PM Fanwoman Jun 19 2006, 02:54 PM Also, how easy would it be for a non-shapechanging 4400 to get a job at NTAC? I'd think even the janitors would have security checks run on them before being hired. You have a point (and you're probably right to boot), but still. Who says it has to be a 4400? Nova could simply be using (or paying) a regular person as a mole.... someone who is sympathetic either towards the 4400s or lots and lots of $$$. (I can't imagine the amount that Shawn supplied them with to be any paltry sum, so I think they'd have some cash to throw around for infiltration purposes. Yeah, but you'd think a decent security check would catch that. Then again, ol' Vic--Diana's fourth partner while Tom was behind a desk between seasons 1 and 2--sold the information about the Highland Beach revelation to Collier without being found out until after the book came out. So maybe someone who already works for NTAC is helping Nova. It's not as though you do checks on people who already have security clearance. Hmm...
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Keenir	Jun 19 2006, 03:25 PM Post #8
Returned Posts: 1,028 Group: Abductees Member #133 Joined: March 10, 2006	Fanwoman Jun 19 2006, 02:54 PM Yeah, but you'd think a decent security check would catch that. Then again, ol' Vic--Diana's fourth partner while Tom was behind a desk between seasons 1 and 2--sold the information about the Highland Beach revelation to Collier without being found out until after the book came out. Why Vic, though? was it to vilify him? or just so we viewers could put a face to the name? (I ask the three of those, out of idle curiosity) Quote: So maybe someone who already works for NTAC is helping Nova. It's not as though you do checks on people who already have security clearance. Hmm... They will now.
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Leob	Jun 19 2006, 03:47 PM Post #9
Profiler Posts: 2,350 Group: Super Moderator Member #140 Joined: March 22, 2006	I think that they most likely do have a mole in NTAC. They seem to be so sure of themselves so why wouldn't they have all the bases covered. And the time that Gary spent in there probably helped alot.
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Fanwoman	Jun 19 2006, 05:12 PM Post #10
Toxokinetic Posts: 368 Group: Abductees Member #255 Joined: June 11, 2006	Keenir Jun 19 2006, 03:25 PM Fanwoman Jun 19 2006, 02:54 PM Yeah, but you'd think a decent security check would catch that. Then again, ol' Vic--Diana's fourth partner while Tom was behind a desk between seasons 1 and 2--sold the information about the Highland Beach revelation to Collier without being found out until after the book came out. Why Vic, though? was it to vilify him? or just so we viewers could put a face to the name? Why Vic? Because they wanted Tom to be Diana's partner, again. Just because Nina let him back in the field didn't mean she was going to partner him with Diana. Then, oops!, there goes Diana's partner. Most convenient. Also, if they had listed the name of someone in NTAC we'd never heard of, it wouldn't have meant too much. Then again, we didn't really know Vic, so I don't see how it would matter if they vilified him.
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